Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 351572)

Warrior- Somebody who is proficient or engages in warfare

Soldier- A warrior who fights on behalf of something (a state, a nation, an organisation etc.)

Basically everything else you two add on in your own personal definitions means nothing outside of your mind. Stop trying to convince each other that you're right and the other is wrong.

Originally Posted by Amnell (Post 351574)

Soldier- A warrior who fights on behalf of something...

:cool:

Originally Posted by Amnell (Post 351229)

Pretty close to how I see it... I simple word change should align it:

If you fight to protect and not to murder.

If I ever got into a serious fight--gun point robbery, home break in, anything of that nature--I would not hesitate to kill the guy if I thought it all necessary for my own well-being. But I would never use what I've learned to just go up to someone and simply kill them.

I'm not saying that I would quickly jump to lethal force. I'd rather disable the person--severely XD . Break an arm, kick the knee, scratch out an eye, stick a knife into their thigh and pull it down, etc. I DO jump to disabling force (and you can thank my kenpo instructor).

Entering a serious fight without the will to maim or kill your opponent is next to suicidal, unless you're absolutely certain that your opponent doesn't have that will. I learned this talking to a family friend from the USMC about my habit of carrying a knife with me everywhere. I didn't carry a knife again for several weeks until I was certain I'd be willing to use it against someone, lest, as he told me, "they take it away from ya and stick you with it."

Tournament fights should be approached from a very different mindset. This is where my issue with Tenchu and Hyakushi lies, mostly. I mean, there's serious and there's too serious.

Originally Posted by Lyric (Post 351658)

This is why today, we all who participate in any martial are should realize that there are more important things in them than just fighting or causing pain.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 351675)

True... but the same goes for life in general. Why do you need to learn martial arts to learn this fact?

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 351555)

I don't know why you're complaining about rules. You know that fighting with your bare fists is also a limitation you restrict yourself too. If I was in a street fight my first thought would be to find something that will give me an advantage over my opponent (or rather, in the case of a street fight, evens things up). A pool cue, a rock... anything.

Originally Posted by Lyric (Post 351685)

You do not, I was simply stating that martial arts was not designed to be for the "Brutal heart", as Tenchu stated earlier that it was. I joind martial arts for my own personal reason, You may have for a different one too.

Also, not every one learns this fact in general life. that is why the world is the way it is. we are all indaviduals, so what you might have learned someone may have not or the learned it differently. I am not saying that you learn this in general life or just only martial arts. You can learn the same ideal from any expirence, good or bad.

Originally Posted by Hyakushi (Post 351700)

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 351711)

Seriously... enough with the "dick measuring".

I don't think anyone has said anything here that experience alone can account for.

And stop trying to hold our training (or your perceived lack of it) against us. At the moment I think the topic is the role of martial arts in the context of life in general. I don't think your (supposedly) more advanced ability and experience IN the martial arts makes you automatically more qualified to speak than any of us regarding this topic.