Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 770915)

Other than he's not a little kid anymore. Panchen Lama is chosen from the Chinese authorities

Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 770921)

That's because they all support a corrupted leader called Dalai Lama.

Originally Posted by lincken (Post 770860)

Cannot agree with u more! China emphasizes a hands-off foreign policy towards the internal affairs of other countries.

Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 770915)

Other than he's not a little kid anymore. Panchen Lama is chosen from the Chinese authorities, a traditional since the Qing dynasty. This is Gelugpa school of Tibetan Buddhism, politically influenced from Beijing.

And he once lead a huge Buddhist conference event in China as a spokesperson. Great assumption you got there.

It's Tibet... Before the Qing dynasty, there was several hundred years of religious civil war (that makes European religious wars look like juvenile kids' plays) until it was formally stabilized by the Qing negotiators and lead to the acquisition of Tibet. But ever since the Qing dynasty, the position called Dalai Lama has been gathering too much power in that region or sphere of influence and made more power trips after the Qing dynasty. Don't forget, the Qing royal family was the biggest patron of the Gelugpa Tibetan Buddhism.

Other than that, there are several greatest incidents in history that shouldn't be made. One of them is transmitting Tantric Buddhism to a Bonpo-influenced Tibet from today's pre-Islamic Bangladesh.

Either ways of looking around, the Tibet issue is a pain from historical or modern perspectives.

And just to let you know: Five Races Under One Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The birth of modern China is meant to be a multi-ethnic country in the first place.

Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 770897)

Dalai Lama. That guy is interesting.

1. He has made a serious schism among his followers and non-Tibetan followers because he suddenly disapproved of worshiping another Tantric deity.
2. His PR is horrible because he accidentally misrepresent himself often to all Western people, saying he is the head of all Buddhist schools (even establishments in China and South East Asia).
3. He said he represents all Tibetan people despite there are lots of modern Bonpo followers in Western Tibet that don't affiliate to Tibetan Buddhism.
4. He discouraged many Sakya, Kagyu, and Nyingma Buddhist establishments in Nepal and Bhutan because of Western countries' "financial treatments".
5. He's a "theocratic" religious figure with heavy control of "secular" politics among refugees. I thought modern politics is against theocracy.

He's a weird guy that my religious studies professor from New Zealand don't want to take him seriously.

Anyway, here's a famous Tibetan-Chinese celebrity for your enjoyment:



Alan Dawa Dolma is her name

Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 770915)

And just to let you know: Five Races Under One Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The birth of modern China is meant to be a multi-ethnic country in the first place.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 770950)

It's like saying that catching Osama bin Laden will end Islamic fundamentalism.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 770949)

Nice speech there... too bad the Tibetans themselves don't buy it.

And when we're talking about national self determination as set out in the UN charter... that's ALL that matters

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 770950)

He's pledged to establish a democracy if he is reinstated as Tibet's leader. That's enough for me to support him and enough for the people of Tibet.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 770951)

Noone is disputing that modern China is multi-ethnic.

However it is multi ethnic whether these ethnic groups like it or not that is the problem.

Originally Posted by tksensei (Post 770924)

I'm very glad you offered these views for all to see.

Originally Posted by tksensei (Post 770925)

You sure are making the case alright. It's good for everyone to see it right out in the open.