lol, nice white text >.>

I dont think I should have to to though. I know enough about the place I live to know whether I should hate it or not..right? But if I say that, it's just dispalying ignorance because I haven't tried other countries. In a way its like saying "I hate Superman 64" When you've only played that game your whole life...sure, it might be the worst game in the world in some others opinions but, you haven't had the chance to play "Super Mario 64" Now have you?

I'm rambling, sorry. >.<

Pretty much, yeah.

You don't know anything BUT America, so don't appreciate the things that you don't know you take for granted by living here. I am talking about things like walking on grass, hearing birds chirp, having a Coke whenever you want one, having electricity and running water 24/7....

Now I'm just messing around. I completely agree with you.

1.I am not an animal, I dont care about green on the ground.
2.Birds annoy me in the middle of the day when I'm trying to sleep at 5pm
3.....Coke is well. Alright coke is good stuff.
4.Electricity runs everything..without it the world would basically cease to exist right now >.<
5....Who needs water? I can bathe in my own filth!

I'm sure the people in North Korea will agree with you:rolleyes:

I don't hate America I just dislike the way it is going. The politicians don't listen to people anymore even though we vote for certain things,they are looking out for their own needs first. Also we are too busy butting into other peoples problems and taking care of them financially. We need to concentrate on America and take care of Americans first. Also, America needs to get tougher on illegal immigrants. If you want to come to America and work illegally they should put you on a chain gang for a year and let you work here and then deport you.

If life in North Korea is so horrible, why are so many so in love with their leader and government?

Because they don't know any better...my point made again, only in reverse. Extreme patriots often have never spent much or any time outside of their country.

haha are you serious?

I am always serious.

I don't hate my country...it's the only one I've ever lived in, so it's all I know. I'm not proud of some of the things my country has done, but that's probably normal for any country. I don't see how anyone could hate one's own country, unless it's just really really terrible and negative.

This is true...I've seen MMM make a joke maybe one time, and it turned out it had a deeper meaning behind it anyways xD

Yes. Once we see America, we all want to be like that.

Bill O'Reily viewer, I presume.

No, just tired of seeing all the illegals getting Social Security and food stamps.

I am proud to be an american. I know that we arent the most popular country but we still have many freedoms that some only dream about and i will never take that for granted. One thing we can do that sets us apart is we are allowed to criticise our own government without fear of retaliation.

LOL. I'd say North Korea was the most free country.

You have no retaliation from your government, yes, but you also have no impact on it.

In North Korea, the government is whoever choses to take power. That is freedom.

And yes, you're right, your country is not very popular.

yeah communism is really popular too huh. Everyone wins. Thank god for karl marx.

What do you mean sets you apart? France for example walks all over you on criticising their government..!

I wasn't saying that we did anything that big. I was just saying that i am still proud to be from america and i see no shame in it.

If I was american, I'd be proud as well... I was just pointing out the little "sets us apart".

My bad when I said it I didn't mean it like this is the only country where you can do that just that it is one were you have that freedom.

WTF??? ... Why?

I agree. Why would you be proud of being an american? I'm not.

MMM's reply nicely sums up anything I could have said. If you're going to denounce the country, at least support your stance.

Of course I am proud of my country. I live in what is undoubtedly the best country in the world: The United States of America. Where anyone can come to this country and become an American. The land of the free. Even though we have a socialist in the white house, we still remain strong.

Despite what Michelle Obama says, I've always been proud of my country! :rheart:

Fine I will. I'm not proud to be an American because as an American, we're looked at as bullies and people who look out for themselves. I don't want to be looked upon that way. Plus I'm of color and when you're living in the US, white people tend to make your life worse. Sure I'm in the "Land Of the Free", but it doesn't feel like it. America has all these things wrong with it and yet almost the rest of the world has everything about itself in check already. Being an american is one of the many things I'm not proud of. As for you guys, criticize me all you like. I'm standing by my opinion. And if you do criticize me, remember this: I am entitled to my opinion on this forum. If you state your opinion on JF, I wouldn't drag it down or criticize you. Just remember that in the future. :)

We as a country should be united as one. That's one of the problems with our society as a whole. I have no problem with anyone that I don't know.

But..some people are just ignorant and bigoted. We call these people, hicks :)

Just out of curiosity, how many years of your life have you spent living outside of the US?

None woud be the answer. And why do you ask? So you can come up with a smart and cunning comeback? :quesballoon: :punchbear:

Pardon me for being smart and cunning. Didn't realize those were bad things.

America has all these things wrong with it and yet almost the rest of the world has everything about itself in check already.

But what do you know about the rest of the world? I don't mean to be so direct, but I feel like a broken record when I say, again today, that the people that say "I hate America" most often have never lived anywhere else, so you really don't know what it means to live in America and appreciate what you have until you have lived somewhere else.

Do you think as a person of color things are going to be "in check" in Japan? In Korea? In almost every other country in the world? (your words)

Get outside your borders and you will realize that no place is perfect. Either make it yours or move on. You are not proud to be an American, but you don't know any other lifestyle, so how can you know if you are not proud or not? You know how the rest of the world sees us? How can you know that unless you have been out there?

You are very wise, my friend.

You have a point there. Sure I never lived anywhere else in the world, but don't you think that maybe i'm not old enough to go anywhere else? when I am old enough to do so and when I have learned the language, I'll move to Japan. I was planning to do so when I had the funds to do so and when I have the approval of my family. My parents don't want me to move far because they are very protective of me and they love me very much. I doubt they'll accept, but they won't try to stop me if it's my choice. And btw, at least other countries don't make your lives miserable because you're different. They like different. And like I said in my previous post, I stand by my opinion. :)

I'll agree and disagree at the same time to that statement.

Put a sock in it. We've heard it all before.

I don't think Americans know what freedom is. It isn't insecurity, that's for sure...

Well, arn't you a racist prick...

Hehehe. You're a tad right for once. But only on this view, not your general direction.

I used to hate Australia for the same reason most Yanks hate America. After I moved to Thailand, I still hate Australia, but now I've come to realize the rest of the world DOES suck just as bad...

So I am correct that experience leads to knowledge, but I am still supposed to respect your opinion, despite the lack or experience or knowledge.

I have a feeling you will be much more appreciative of your life in America after you get back from that first extended stay in Japan, which I am sure you will achieve if you are determined.

Which countries are you talking about? I hope not Japan
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Well, arn't you a racist prick...

I am not racist and I certainly am not a prick. You call someone racist, if you call someone racist, you yourself are it too. :p :mad:

You just lumped all white people into a single group, and said they make your life worse.

Please explain yourself further if you think this isn't racism (not that I really care, just want to know your excuse).

Stop. Both of you.

Why? This is on topic. It thinks white people spoil the essence of the great US of A. Perhaps, upon explaining, we'll come to realize an actual point.

Don't just tell us to stop. How about asking us nicely to just keep it civil (which I am; I really don't care why it thinks I ruin its life).

I'm sure I'll like my life in Japan more than my life in America. And so what if i say Japan accepts people who are different? I know they do. They have communities over there where the residents are of carribean background. If that's not an acceptance of differences, then what is? :mad: