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XjapanFOREVER 11-03-2008 05:22 AM

Microsoft Windows 7
 
I have to admit, I was a little skeptical about another OS from Microsft so soon after the epic failure we know as Windows Vista. but after messing around with the pre-beta of Windows 7 I have to admit, the people at microsoft sure know how to make for a mistake...

*now if they could only make up for the Xbox....:happypika: :onismile: :mtongue:

anyways, does anyone plan on testing the official beta when it releases in December (I believe)?

I know I will, everything seems to run ALOT smoother in Windows 7.... given it's a pre-beta, but I mean, can the final product be worse?

Here's a screen-shot of me installing Windows 7 with Windows Vista in the background.


Odin 11-03-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by XjapanFOREVER (Post 620455)
I know I will, everything seems to run ALOT smoother in Windows 7.... given it's a pre-beta, but I mean, can the final product be worse?

Short answer: Yes, it absolutely could be worse!!

Longer answer :D: Many beta testers of Vista were shocked, when they saw the final production version. The beta versions overall were for the most part were pretty good. Then the marketing division of Microsoft got involved with the final stages and Vista became ..... it became .... ...well it became Vista. :p

XjapanFOREVER 11-03-2008 04:49 PM

I know, that wasn't really a serious question... I was subtly poking fun at Vista, I should have made it more clear.

anyways, here's some more screenshots...

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...6171/win-7.png
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...71/win-7-2.png
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...71/Win-7-4.png
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...71/Win-7-3.png

RazerKill 11-03-2008 05:00 PM

triple core? lol ^^
well i hope it will be better then vista...
I'm still using XP just because its faster on my rigs

noodle 11-03-2008 05:05 PM

:confused: :rolleyes: Why do you guys hate Vista so much? With the right machine, it's amazingly fast, smooth, beautiful etc etc...

CrazyLee 11-03-2008 05:13 PM

Yes, but XP is still just as good for pretty much everything. I'd like to add that the thing that puts me off Vista so much (apart from the amount of Professional's who dont like it) is that its so damned confusing. I can navigate around XP with ridiculous ease. Vista just annoys me, as its so confusing to play with. And, so far, nothing has been released outside of Windows service packs (?) that requires Vista.

And I'll pass on Windows 7 for the moment. I want to see the production copy first, followed by the responce from the professional community. Then I'll decide whether its worth it.

Tyrien 11-03-2008 05:18 PM

Won't be trying it. I'm trying to put the least amount of crap possible onto my laptop, this includes trial software.

and that looks exactly like vista. I already have a computer that runs vista without any problems so visually I don't see any changes at all.

theAlphaDuck 11-03-2008 05:19 PM

Can't we just bring back ME?

sure it was buggy...and it crashed...and security wise the back door, was more like the entire back of the house is missing...

BUT ITS THE BEST!!....mainly cos you can change the colour of things

CrazyLee 11-03-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by theAlphaDuck (Post 620651)
Can't we just bring back ME?

sure it was buggy...and it crashed...and security wise the back door, was more like the entire back of the house is missing...

BUT ITS THE BEST!!....mainly cos you can change the colour of things

Your kidding, right? :eek:

noodle 11-03-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyLee (Post 620648)
Yes, but XP is still just as good for pretty much everything. I'd like to add that the thing that puts me off Vista so much (apart from the amount of Professional's who dont like it) is that its so damned confusing. I can navigate around XP with ridiculous ease. Vista just annoys me, as its so confusing to play with. And, so far, nothing has been released outside of Windows service packs (?) that requires Vista.

And I'll pass on Windows 7 for the moment. I want to see the production copy first, followed by the responce from the professional community. Then I'll decide whether its worth it.

That's understandable, but not a valid reason for vista to be any "worse", so to say. Everytime there was an upgrade in OS', it took a lot of effort to get used to it. Personally, I think Vista is way under-rated. On the PC I'm on right now, I have Vista, Xp and Mandriva Linux. And to be honest, Vista is my fav because it seems to run much better than all the others, and as it's just a "home pc", it's much nicer to look at. (yes, even nicer than Linux).

For professional use however, I do agree that Vista is just... not needed. This summer, I worked in the IT department for an international company. They were discussing an upgrade from XP to Vista. I had to write a report on pro's and con's. In the end, for the company, I told them it'd be the biggest waste of money ever if they upgraded... However, I doubt many of us are "professionals" so to speak. So, I think for a home user, Vista deserves a bit more applause, lol.

XjapanFOREVER 11-03-2008 05:24 PM

I used to have Millennium Edition and I thought it was crap.
XP was the pinnacle of OS... It was the absolute shit.
about Vista being confusing, yea, there's no doubt about it, there is too much crap that just wasn't needed.
And as for the right machine running it, that's true, but tehy fixed alot of bugs with later releases, so depending on when you got vista, depends on how 'buggy' it was. my friend got it when it first came out, and he hates the hell out of it..

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Originally Posted by RazerKill (Post 620642)
triple core? lol ^^

I do a lot of video/music converting of anime's and the such, so it helps!!!

theAlphaDuck 11-03-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyLee (Post 620654)
Your kidding, right? :eek:

also it means i could dig out my old AMD K6 450!!
(which never ran above 400 after a little overclocking "incident")

I LOVED that peice of shit machine...i called her Bertha...and she could run ANY programme.......eventually

they really dont build them like that anymore.....

also the tower was beige...why don't they make them beige anymore?

XjapanFOREVER 11-03-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theAlphaDuck (Post 620659)
also the tower was beige...why don't they make them beige anymore?

ummm.... beige isn't really that popular a color.
not being mean, but the only people I see with beige cars are... well... "older"

anyways, this discussion is for Windows 7, not which MS OS is best, make another thread to continue discussion please..

CrazyLee 11-03-2008 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by XjapanFOREVER (Post 620658)
about Vista being confusing, yea, there's no doubt about it, there is too much crap that just wasn't needed.

And what we really need to know is how much extra crap is going to be in W7. If its just a rehash of Vista, then we're going to be in a lot of trouble a few years from now. As I said, the proof is in the pudding, not in the mix.

0Kurisu0 11-03-2008 05:55 PM

Extra crap xD that's windows's emblem. I think I'll try that thing known as... Windows 7, but since I've got gnu/linux, my world is like more colorful *nn*

XjapanFOREVER 11-03-2008 05:56 PM

in a nutshell W7 is more of a "remake" than a "port".
Most people using this have experienced better video quality, faster surfing; web and local. The interface isn't as friendly as XP, but we can't expect everything..

There is also a new toolbar/taskbar, that was not included in this release, look it up...
Windows 7: Windows 7 Taskbar, 'Peek' and Multitouch Gestures Caught On Video

iPhantom 12-17-2008 07:04 PM

Windows 7
 
Beta is announced already, coming out in 2 days or less.

A site was put up for information: Welcome to Windows 7

I've checked it out, the pre-beta and such, and IMO it looks really promising, better than Vista in all ways, and could beat XP if it goes like this.

To all those who don't know yet, Windows 7 is the next operating system Microsoft is making.

FreddyLea 12-17-2008 07:33 PM

i haven't gone into depth with it ... but what i have read just states that it is Vista .. just reskinned and tweaked a little bit ...

/shrugs ... i don't have any issues with vista or xp though so i prob won't install it on any of mine till something requires it.

iPhantom 12-17-2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FreddyLea (Post 646749)
i haven't gone into depth with it ... but what i have read just states that it is Vista .. just reskinned and tweaked a little bit ...

/shrugs ... i don't have any issues with vista or xp though so i prob won't install it on any of mine till something requires it.

It's not Vista, It has the same kernel but it's what Vista should have been in teh first place. Has less requirements than Vista, more features.

FreddyLea 12-17-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by iPhantom (Post 646775)
It's not Vista, It has the same kernel but it's what Vista should have been in teh first place. Has less requirements than Vista, more features.

"Steve Ballmer (CEO) also confirmed the relationship between Vista and Windows 7, indicating that Windows 7 will be an improved version of Vista"

iPhantom 12-17-2008 08:37 PM

Quote:

Beta is announced already, coming out in 2 days or less.

A site was put up for information: Welcome to Windows 7

I've checked it out, the pre-beta and such, and IMO it looks really promising, better than Vista in all ways, and could beat XP if it goes like this.
And... I'd like to add... it's not necessary that every new OS that gets released needs to have a new GUI, it's not always been like that for Microsoft OS.

Vista GUI and 7 GUI is more than okay, funcionality of Windows 7 makes it better. They made a better taskabr, and believe me it's better, has many new features you would have liked in Vista. And takes less resources (anyone complaining?).

FreddyLea 12-17-2008 08:37 PM

hmmm only reason i switched to vista was for x64 support ... and to run more then 4 gig of ram ... which it does flawlessly on my main comp at home (other setups are still running xp pro) ...

i would assume that windows 7 will have a 32bit and 64bit version as well... does anyone know about that? ...

iPhantom 12-17-2008 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FreddyLea (Post 646785)
hmmm only reason i switched to vista was for x64 support ... and to run more then 4 gig of ram ... which it does flawlessly on my main comp at home (other setups are still running xp pro) ...

i would assume that windows 7 will have a 32bit and 64bit version as well... does anyone know about that? ...

Yes it will have both.

FreddyLea 12-17-2008 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by iPhantom (Post 646789)
Yes it will have both.

ok, so two seperate installs depending on which is needed? ...

i may pick it up to try out after the first service pack is released ... or it has been out in retail for 3 months to go ahead and get accustomed to it ... if it is good enough, may bypass vista completly at my workplace ... when we do finally have to upgrade because of 'custom software' ...

iPhantom 12-17-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FreddyLea (Post 646794)
ok, so two seperate installs depending on which is needed? ...

i may pick it up to try out after the first service pack is released ... or it has been out in retail for 3 months to go ahead and get accustomed to it ... if it is good enough, may bypass vista completly at my workplace ... when we do finally have to upgrade because of 'custom software' ...

Oh I'm sure it will. Many workplaces who never changed to Vista and were going to... skipped Vista instead. Your workplace will get it, it's better than Vista in any way.

Gwen_Goth 12-17-2008 08:58 PM

right; i've closed the duplicate thread.

the relevant posts form that thread have been moved to this one; so no need to double post now, 'kay ;):D

Kyousuke 12-18-2008 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by XjapanFOREVER (Post 620660)
ummm.... beige isn't really that popular a color.
not being mean, but the only people I see with beige cars are... well... "older"

anyways, this discussion is for Windows 7, not which MS OS is best, make another thread to continue discussion please..

oh, you kids and your beige computers, windows vista, and pacman video games. when i was young computers only came in one color, white. the only way you could get another color is if you spray painted the computer.

anyways, ill get windows 7. even if i didn't test the trial out, it has to be better than vista.

Tyrien 12-18-2008 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theAlphaDuck (Post 620651)
Can't we just bring back ME?

sure it was buggy...and it crashed...and security wise the back door, was more like the entire back of the house is missing...

BUT ITS THE BEST!!....mainly cos you can change the colour of things

Uhm Can do that in xp, or vista by changing to the classic interface.

or

WindowBlinds - Free software downloads and reviews - CNET Download.com

superheel 12-18-2008 01:29 PM

Vista isnt that bad. It's just learning how to use it.

iPhantom 12-27-2008 12:25 AM

Windows 7 Beta Build 7000 just got leaked... woo. I'm gonna try it right now. Was lucky to find the correct one out of all these fake torrents out there.

CarleyGee 12-27-2008 12:29 AM

Woah, that looks nice.
My grandparents have I think, from looking at the screenshots.
It was awesome : D


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