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Can I blame you for Global Warming?
I do not know why countries blame each other if all contributed.
Each country have industries wich polute the atmosphere. So, Do you think that we can blame a country or all countries? Why? ... I was thinking about this so, Do you think that Global Warming is a period wich is happening to the Earth as Ice Age? Yes or No? Why? |
Every country that has a single automobile, air conditioner, aerosol can, or factory is guilty to some degree.
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That is . . . if global warming is even real.
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a type of climate change that happens every 300 years or so? (Just an example) Theory's aren't proven, which means they can still be false. Which means there is no evidence it is true, which means I still have a chance at being right and so do you. |
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Yeah, you're right. With 6 billion people, the world is basically fucked unless we do something about it. |
Gravity is also an unproven threory, but I won't walk near the edge of cliffs.
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xD in the Earth will be a time wich you will have to pay to breath 12-20 atoms of Oxygen around how much? 100 dollards lol nah nah I was kidding but this ins't a joke
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do you think if Global Warming get worse, the governments and the NASA will move the people to other planet? Sometimes I think that IDK why lol
but what do you think about it? |
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I am so glad that Obama has made SCIENCE a high priority in his administration. He is putting respected scientists and researchers back into power so we can get away from this backwards idea that scientists are shifty-eyed nerds trying to steal our bibles. Thanks for that, W!
Hopefully we have time to catch up! |
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Global warming is not real, that's why it is now called "climate change". The name changed when it became apparent that temperatures were not getting hotter. Cold weather records were broken in many parts of the world last year, and this year is cold as well. Temperatures in Japan are lower than average this year, only one day in the last two weeks has been average, every other day (including today) has been colder. Japan has been a great believer in the global warming theory, and television stations have been keeping careful track of the daily temperatures, comparing them with historical averages. We'd better hope that the temperature levels off, or increases again soon. Global warming could have been a problem, but global cooling would be genuinely catastrophic. |
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I hope his scientists are just that, scientists. Too many "scientists" are selected because of their political ideology rather than the genuine merit of their work. Throughout the world research which has been critical of global warming or climate change has been intentionally ignored and unfunded. Hall of Record: Extreme Temperatures - Where's the Global Warming? Government scientists are paid by the government, and if they wish to keep getting paid, they tell the government what it wants to hear, rather than what it needs to hear. |
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I wanna ask most of you a question I was asked at uni. Note, most science students weren't able to give a fully correct answer to this question. What is science? Also, try to not be tempted to search for it on google or something. Try to give an honest answer without any kind of cheating. |
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Okay, here's a question to everyone that believes that Global Warming (or the new pc version: Climate change) - has it killed anyone yet? Can you prove to me that the changes to our atmosphere/climate/planet have actually contributed to the death of even 1 individual? If yes, then its a problem. If you cannot, then its not a problem.
We've been 'polluting' this world for over 2,000 years (I dont know how many exactly, but I'll go by the current year + lots ;)), why the sudden belief that our technological develpoment is to blame? |
Tenchu, you've mentioned a lot. I haven't got the time to reply just now, but I promise, I'll reply soon. Just wanted to tell you not to worry about my studying. Global warming has been shoved in my face at school for the past 8 years and on TV/media for the past god knows how many years.
I've never accepted anything as fact when teachers presented is as that. I got this habbit after studying at a christian school. So, since I was taught about global warming, I've read up about it by myself. Thankfully, here at uni, in my geology classes, I've managed to gain more insight into the matter and it seems even geologists don't always agree that Man made global warming is true. That however doesn't mean that human's haven't contributed. To believe they haven't is a little silly, but to believe that we've caused such a huge affect is silly also. Edit: Instincts tell me not to jump off a cliff too! Doesn't mean anything towards living life or existance of gravity |
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Co2 is a minor greenhouse gas, and it has never been shown in history to cause global warming. Even IPCC scientists admit that Co2 levels in the past and present follow heat increases, and to not precipitate them. The other "major" greenhouse gas is methane, for which cows have been blamed for producing in huge quantities. But, methane levels have been decreasing for the lat 10 years, and no one yet knows why. Man has actually done a lot to the environment which causes global cooling. The vast farmlands of the American midwest and other parts of the world reflect large amounts of the sun's energy away from the earth, and these farms cover more area than the world's cities, which are blamed for causing global "hot spots". Man cannot destroy the world, even if he made an organized attempt to do it. The world has endured far worse disasters than man is capable of. More species have become extinct in the past than exist in life now, and man is responsible only for the tiniest fraction of the smallest percent. "Climate change" is nothing but a political movement designed to spread socialist ideology, a new wealth redistribution scheme which is aimed at the industries and economies of the developed world. "Climate change" would more accurately be called "Eco Socialism", because that's what it really is. |
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Starting from stone age to the industrial times the pollution was nothing compared with the pollution in these days, because in those times the human population wasn't so big as it is right now, trees weren't cut that much as they are right now, and people weren't dependent so much from oil and natural gas as they are right now. |
I feel like bashing someones head up against the wall everytime I hear "global warming doesnt exist" :mad:
Lee, its true global warming hasnt killed anyone, but its killing out planet. Our home. So much pollution in the air and water for so many years is and does have an effect on the planet. If you havent notice (or just havent bothered to) the polar ice caps are melting, you want proof of that look up pictures of them, what 30, 40 yrs ago? and find a more recent pircture of the ice caps now and give me one good explanation as to why so much ice is gone. As an effect of the ice melting, the ocean is rising. Small islands are going to dissapear and beaches are going to get smaller and the ocean is going to start creeping up into the town/cities/villages that are close to the beach. Plus I've noticed changes in the weather. I moved to Florida from PR in 03 and the summer was hot as hell and the winter freezing (at least for me:rolleyes: ) now the summer are hotter than I remember and this last october was cold. It wasnt last year or the years before that. And in december, where I once remembered it being cold/freezing the years before, this year it was warm. {Has anyone else notice changes in the weather??? :/} Also few of us have to deal with hurricanes and such, but those of us who have had to, 1- have noticed that the few that form their intencity that there starting to form themselves is stronger than years before and 2- should have noticed that if you havent:rolleyes: And somewhere in the thread someone mentioned the forests that used to be abundant thru out the planet, ppl keep in mind that plants and trees is where we get our clean oxygen from >.> And someone pointed a finger at the factories(and some other stuff) that every single country has(even if its just one, small factory), and yes they are the blame for the mass amount of carbon dioxide that is being released into the atmosphere, and yes the atmosphere already has carbon dioxide naturaly but to much of it is whats causing global warming, so since factories are created by humans, yes we are to blame for throwing our planet downt the shit hole. |
ok contributing to other's facts here are some of what I know about
- Eleven of last 12 years were the hottest ever recorded That's since 1850. And the high temperatures of the last 50 years are unusual for at least the last 1300 years. - We are dumping about 1000 tons of CO2 per second into the atmosphere Current rates of greenhouse gas emissions into the atmosphere are unprecedented. Carbon dioxide emissions are mostly from burning fossil fuels. - The current atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide is 35% greater than pre-industrial levels.and contrary to what someone said Methane concentrations have increased by 250%. These dramatic increases in greenhouse gases are human-caused. - Global warming produces severe weather and rising seas. Warming oceans and melting ice have caused the sea level to rise at a rate unprecedented in the last 3000 years. Other changes associated with warming include increased incidences of drought, flooding, heat waves, and intense cyclones. - Global warming effects are predicted to get much worse By 2100, global temperatures will increase another 2 to 11 °F. Increases are predicted in heat waves, drought, intense cyclones, and loss of coastal and low areas. - Global warming will affect millions of people by 2100 Loss of habitable land is predicted to result from flooding and droughts. Increases are predicted in heat-caused deaths, famines, drinking water scarcity, disease, and forest fires. - 25% of the world's species could be lost from global warming effects More than 1 million plant and animal species will vanish if global temperatures continue to rise as predicted in the next 50 years. - China plans to build about one coal-fired electrical power plant per week over a period of a decade The US currently emits more greenhouse gases than any other nation, but China will soon pass the US as the worst greenhouse gas emitter. - It's too late to stop global warming, but we can limit it Models show that limiting greenhouse gas emissions can prevent the most extreme scenarios for global warming. As I said maibe you (those who find hard to hold people accountable for global warming) dont want to change the way they live, its your choice, but I bet you can't contradict the facts. |
Everytime someone mentions the melting of ice-caps, I can't help but think they're just brainwashed from media... If you check any reputed oceantologist that has concentrated their research around this particular area of the planet, you will see that the melting and freezing of ice-caps is cyclic. So, to state such a thing with certainty makes you look foolish. BUT anyway, lets forget that and say yes, they are just melting because the planet is hot!!! How does that in any way prove it's man made heat (GW)? It is a result of the earth warming up. The earth warming up isn't a result of the ice-caps melting (ooops, I forgot the reflections right???). If you take the ice caps melting to be a cause to the earth warming up, then you're in a paradox (I'll let you figure that out). If you believe it's a contributer, then you should read up on some oceantologists' research...
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No one is really to be blamed for Global Warming. But we humans should do our part. I mean, Global Warming is true, and no matter how you deny it, it's true.
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Anxious about global warming yes there is an opinion and research of ONE OCEANOLOGIST but but if you read the the second article, there is a warning firmed by 1500 of the most renoun scientists and novel prices about how we have poluted the earth, and they agree global warming is real. don't know about you but I think this guy is yust trying to make himself a name going against what almost all agree. |
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as you said information is needed to form an opinion. also I have given you another set of facts that refute what this oceanologist implies. |
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There have been many more findings since then. |
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but really there is research from both sides of the theme, just saying that in my research, there is more credibility in the side of global warming, and for the experiences I have: as aresult of it semidesertic areas are transforming into total deserts, or at least are in severe drought for afew years now, I know afew places were it's already a reality. And also I know that most of the researches against it are sponsored by car companies and the oil produccion industry. |
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Don't speak about something you know nothing about. That is the problem with this entire debate, people repeat things they've heard about global warming, somehow thinking that because they've heard it on the news or read it in a book that it must be true. Look at the numbers and charts yourself, but look at the newer ones. Global warming proponents are still showing graphs formulated before Nasa indicated the flaw in their temperature measuring system, which changed the hottest year on record from 2005 to 1936. You are being lied to by the global warming/climate change crowd, and don't realize it. |
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Here's some logic for you. What is pollution, and where does if come from? Where are the rising sea levels promised by the climate change crowd? You live in Florida, don't you? Have you noticed that the sea level is the same? That, in fact, it has not changed so much as an inch since measurements have been kept? You say that this last summer was the hottest one you've experienced, have you looked at the average temperatures over the last 100 years to see if that is really true? It's not, you'll find that last summer, and the summers before it were cooler than the summers of the early 20th century. 2005 was the only year which came close, and each summer since then has actually been cooler. Global warming is not happening, that's why it is now called "climate change". Read: Friends of Science |
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