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MMM 04-29-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 707137)
Pay money for photoshoot of an airplane almost flying into another building....
Or pay money to try and help save human life....?

Hmmm.......

You risk your life every time you get out of bed in the morning. Random shootings are just that: random. We can't expect our government to protect like bodyguards. Either live in fear or live your life.

rison 04-29-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 707132)
Really? Most university campuses are very open places and most already have armed security guards. If someone wanted to bring a gun onto a campus and avoid detection it would be very easy on most American universities. Sure we could put walls around the campus and make going to class as secure a process as getting on an airplane, but the cost and time doesn't make that very feasible.

Same with most campuses around the world.

Having metal detectors at the Universities main gate entrances is a viable alternative than students wearing holsters.

alanX 04-29-2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 707143)
You risk your life every time you get out of bed in the morning. Random shootings are just that: random. We can't expect our government to protect like bodyguards. Either live in fear or live your life.

True. But which country has the most public shootings worldwide? America.
Which country provides the least amount "physical" security? America.

When I stayed in Sydney on vacation, there were two security guards always on duty at our Apartment. (they changed times, switched, you know what I mean)

MMM 04-29-2009 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rison (Post 707144)
Same with most campuses around the world.

Having metal detectors at the Universities main gate entrances is a viable alternative than students wearing holsters.

I am not in support of students wearing guns to school, however, my university alone had probably 25 buildings, each with two to seven or eight entrances. That's about 100 entrances to cover. Even if you had just one guard at each entrance during the school day, that is a huge drain on funds, not to mention the purchase of 100 metal detectors. So viable is not a word I would choose in this case.

MMM 04-29-2009 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 707147)
True. But which country has the most public shootings worldwide? America.
Which country provides the least amount "physical" security? America.

When I stayed in Sydney on vacation, there were two security guards always on duty at our Apartment. (they changed times, switched, you know what I mean)

America provides a considerable amount of physical security. The only policeman I saw in the Bahamas was the one that helped me take my bag off the plane.

SaintKat 04-30-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rison (Post 707144)
Same with most campuses around the world.

Having metal detectors at the Universities main gate entrances is a viable alternative than students wearing holsters.

Come to NZ or AUS to study. I know for sure we don't have to worry about thing, not sure about my ocker cousins across the ditch though. Think most our Uni students do is get trashed and/or beat each other up really.

Hyakushi 04-30-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tohruchan7 (Post 706948)
whoa man u just dissed me!! viva la mexico

Ack! I didn't mean to, well actually I did but no worries I'm not racsist I hate everyone equaly :) Hahahaha! no I was just putting things down that I hear in every high school fight xD.

Atakicat 04-30-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rison (Post 707070)
Let me ask a question directed at anyone.

Instead of enabling students to have firearms on campus, why dont they have policemen armed with guns stationed on campus grounds? Wouldnt this make more sense?

My campus had not only their own armed police department, but also hired off duty officers from time to time to patrol the campus. But it all comes down to the fact, most criminals who decide to use a weapon, don't care much if that weapon has been banned.

Hyakushi 04-30-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TalnSG (Post 706978)
Excuse me! Please do not continue on that line of thinking. You are doing the male of the species a great deal of harm. Yes, women are the prevalent victims of violence at the hands of men - especially when we are referring to domestic voplence and crimes between two people who actually know each other. But there are far too many men in the world who are also victims of the same type of crime and it goes unseen because of social stereotyping, lack of resources for aid, and a general perception that such victims are never men. Men are beign abused too, and the longer it takes for the public to realize this the longer it will be before the problem is addressed on the levels it is for women.

Now back to the main thread of this.

I'm sorry if you took what I had typed down the wrong way but I didn't mean only women are abused in domestic violence which is why I only put domestic violence meaning a person (any gender any age) is being abused mentaly or physicly. Although there are more cases of children being harmed and second is women, the last is the male. I file more women abuse charges then men but then again it could be different in another state or county. Mostly rapes are commited on campuse, thats where we are mostly called to. I'm just forming my mind on something, its always going to change if new information is found but I'm still learning as is everyone. Then again we did a study on how many men/boys refuse to tell or file a suit on themselves for being beatin or raped. So who knows there might be more men raped :eek: .

Hyakushi 04-30-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rison (Post 707070)
Let me ask a question directed at anyone.

Instead of enabling students to have firearms on campus, why dont they have policemen armed with guns stationed on campus grounds? Wouldnt this make more sense?

It depends even if you put police on compuse its not garenteed that they will always be in thr right place at the right time nor get there fast enough. Plus its a sense of freedom being violated to some, not everyone wants to give up there freedom just to be safe.


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