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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 708888)

It doesn't bother me that you're not to be honest....

Most people with a hint of compassion are against warfare.

Firstly, I'd like to ask ho this went from a Ninja or Samurai thread, to a thread about war.

My view about war is that it's a necessary evil. It won't ever stop, and it never will. I don't like it, but sometimes violence is the only way to solve things.

But that's a discussion for another thread. I'd have to say I'd prefer to be a Ninja. But it depends on the nature of it really. Were Ninja's paid for their services, or were they a simple unit in warfare?

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Originally Posted by Salvanas (Post 708937)

Ninja's got paid.

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Originally Posted by kMal (Post 708945)

Ninja's got paid.

Ah that's decided it then, I'd prefer Ninjas. I've always respected Samurai's, but I've been a lover of paid assassins.

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 709180)

If it wasn't part of human nature then we would not have testosterone; the same thing that makes lion kings so fucking angry all the time and fight.

This is one reason why we have balls, Ronin... well, some of us do... they are there to help us not only in times of love, but also in times of war. Respect the balls.

What a stupid justification...

Again... the only thing that can truly be said about human nature is our ability to reason and manage our emotions to an extent.

One could argue testosterone not only causes war, it causes rape too... so do you believe rape is part of human nature too? I don't.

And if you do believe it is part of human nature, are you for rape like you are for war?

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 709180)

Are you going to admit you're wrong, or shall I make a poll?

What part of

"Most people with a hint of compassion are against war"

is wrong?

i just don't get it.-_-

this is weird aren't they like the same except a samurai does stuff with a sword???

i prefer choose samurai.. they looked cool like kenshin.. :vsign:

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 708887)

I don't agree that it's part of human nature...

The human nature argument is mostly always used to justify immoral behaviour.

I believe the only thing integral to human nature when it comes to behaviour is the ability to reason.

In fact I believe the fact that humans can manage their instincts, thoughts and emotions is what sets us apart from animals.

We can logically define peace and rationally seek it... therefore peace does not defy human nature, nor is war an integral part of it.

I said violence is part of nature. And human is also part of that same nature.

So you think humans can manage their thoughts, instincts and emotions ?
I think you are overvaluating the humans. Nobody can always control his emotions and instincts.

Human reason is not flawless. Even the best philosopher couldn't seize the real essence of reason. Reason is just a subsequent stage in evolution.

Eventually the Human Reason will refine and get to a new stage and so on and on.

You say you can rationalize peace, I say you can rationalize war.

Do you have proofs that we can rationally seek peace ? In history there is no such thing as peace.

Peace is an utopy. Free to you to believe into it, it is still a fantasy.

What we commonly call peace is simply a state of non-war for a determined time until the next conflict.

Technically, our opinions are in conflict. We are waging a war of opinion.

Fortunately, the casualties are usually low in those kind of conflicts ! HAHA

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Originally Posted by VampireGirl1314 (Post 709227)

i just don't get it.-_-

this is weird aren't they like the same except a samurai does stuff with a sword???

ehhh...

its like if you are saying "this is weird, aren't a cook and a mechanician the same except a cook does stuff with a knife???"

Ninja are different from Samurai, really.

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 709234)

Don't embarass yourself...

I always do.TT~TT
so really tell me?

i don't get the difference of a ninja and a samurai