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forgotenmemory 06-02-2009 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 726993)
I`d sleep with someone to save another person`s (if they were important to me) life, regardless of who the person I had to sleep with.

I mean, the unpleasant experience of sleeping with them would literally be done in a few minutes. Losing someone is for life. It isn`t quite on the same level.
Weighing two lives is one thing, but... A few minutes of suffering in exchange for someone`s survival seems like a pretty good deal to me.

Umm....hot o_o

I doubt I'd save either of them because I'd be running away. :D

Kenpachi11 06-02-2009 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ozkai (Post 727095)
Need or not need, up to each and their own.

If someone didn't want to save their child, that would be a huge concern.

If you have a child one day, you may understand my thoughts.

I understand your thoughts even tho i dont have any children...im only 17 but i have lost many loved ones. the most recent one that i was very close to was my grandma. she was like a 2nd mom to me and i wish i could have saved her.

ozkai 06-02-2009 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenpachi11 (Post 727101)
I understand your thoughts even tho i dont have any children...im only 17 but i have lost many loved ones. the most recent one that i was very close to was my grandma. she was like a 2nd mom to me and i wish i could have saved her.

I'm sorry to hear that Kenpachi11 and my thought's are with you.

All my grandparents have passed away, that was two in Australia and two in the UK.

Never easy but life must go on for them in our minds..

Kenpachi11 06-02-2009 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ozkai (Post 727125)
I'm sorry to hear that Kenpachi11 and my thought's are with you.

All my grandparents have passed away, that was two in Australia and two in the UK.

Never easy but life must go on for them in our minds..

Thanks and it doesnt get easier but i think the more you mature the more you understand about life and death and thats the only way it will get easier.
same here i dont have anymore grandparents. i only knew 2 of them tho but the first one died when i was really young so i didnt really feel anything from that.

Tenchu 06-02-2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Salvanas (Post 726589)
What are your views on this?

Morality is often a difficult subject.

A good example was, I saw a movie with the Governor of California in it, End of Days. Good movie.

The plot was, a young woman was to bear the child of the Demon, and Hell would reign over earth for the next 1,000 years (I wish this shit was real).

Of course, once the identity of the woman was discovered (before the child was born), and she was learned to be innocent, a truly honest man has to make the decision; kill the innocent to prevent the Demons reign, or hold true to virtue, and protect the womans life, thus risking evil.

A single line was dropped that I've said many times before; "You cannot prevent evil by doing evil".

That was often what many of you might remember I said about the nuclear bombings of Japan when we talked over it. I think it is true; you cannot prevent murder by killing people.

So rationality comes into it; in logic, it is better to kill a single woman, than let the Demon reign Hell of earth for 1,000 years. Perhaps if I was religous, I'd tell people that rationality and science are tools of the Demon himself; you're being tricked into becoming a murderer. If you consider things morally, rather than rationally, you will never bring harm to the innocent. Good people do not burn the skin off children with fire, regardless of what sense and reason tells you.

Nyororin 06-02-2009 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by forgotenmemory (Post 727097)
Umm....hot o_o

I doubt I'd save either of them because I'd be running away. :D

Umm... how so? It`s not like it`s going to permanently scar me - I mean, I`m sure it would be absolutely horrible but choosing between that and the life of someone I will miss on a daily basis... It ceases to be a choice.

And to ozkai - I do have a child. And I have indeed selected the "let the child die to save my life please" option in the past, in real life, in a hospital setting with doctors on hand to go through with it.
And even now I highly doubt I`d sacrifice myself for my child. I`d try like hell to save them, but I wouldn`t just give up my life for their benefit.

Pexster 06-02-2009 06:54 AM

A catagory that me and my friends always argue about. But we usually end up going nowhere with the argument.

forgotenmemory 06-02-2009 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 727161)
Umm... how so? It`s not like it`s going to permanently scar me - I mean, I`m sure it would be absolutely horrible but choosing between that and the life of someone I will miss on a daily basis... It ceases to be a choice.

And to ozkai - I do have a child. And I have indeed selected the "let the child die to save my life please" option in the past, in real life, in a hospital setting with doctors on hand to go through with it.
And even now I highly doubt I`d sacrifice myself for my child. I`d try like hell to save them, but I wouldn`t just give up my life for their benefit.

But what would you do if the person you have to have sex with flat out refuses you?:eek:

Nyororin 06-02-2009 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by forgotenmemory (Post 727170)
But what would you do if the person you have to have sex with flat out refuses you?:eek:

That is a thought... But if that is the case then why on earth do they have anything to do with someone`s survival? Obviously they have to have some connection or there would be no way to confirm that the act had been done, so they have to be in on it in some way. At the very least, the person ready to kill the other person would likely be there so it wouldn`t be too hard to explain the situation.

MMM 06-02-2009 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by forgotenmemory (Post 727170)
But what would you do if the person you have to have sex with flat out refuses you?:eek:

Welcome back forgotenmemory. Now don't be an idiot.


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