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komitsuki 06-21-2009 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by solemnclockwork (Post 736609)
What point is it to post this?

Historians today still undermine that South Korea before the Korean War was a Communist paradise.

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America had/has people who want an communist party.
But not during right after WWII.

komitsuki 06-21-2009 06:57 AM

Besides, solemnclockwork, we are talking about South Korea.

When you discuss about South Korea, think like a South Korean, not American.

My previous thread talks about South Korea and you just bluntly say that "America had/has people who want an communist party.America doe that too". That sounds awkward, isn't it?

It seems that you never really read my posts sincerely in the first place.

Of course, your first post in this thread is more like an shock of indignation than a sincere question.

I don't know whether you really care for discussion or just merely harping the thread around since your questionable first post.

solemnclockwork 06-21-2009 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 736611)
Major George E. Cilley

Historians today still undermine that South Korea before the Korean War was a Communist paradise.



But not during right after WWII.

> >>The problem seems that just about everybody in South Korea claims that
> he had worked for the US "intelligence" orgs. In fact Ahn Doo Whi
> claimed he was an OSS major!<<

The reason for these false claims is to make the claimant sound more
credible and to try to shift responsibility from the individual or
political organization to someone else, generally the U.S.

> >>The question is how much Nichols and his Korean pals were involved in
> the assassination business. As you know Nichols writes in his memoirs
> that he had quite few folks snubbed out and that he was having nightmares
> about his victims.<<

Hard to say how much Nichols was involved since he was a "loose cannon" and
a lot of what he, or his organization did, was not cleared with higher
headquarters. Also, he often did things to further his standing with Rhee
and others in the Korean government that had noting to do with the 6004th
AISS's mission. There also some question about some of his "successes"
although there is no question but that he did accomplish a number of
spectacular intelligence coups.

> >.Also, Kim In Ho writes in his memoirs that he worked for a Korean
> "agent" of the US CIC in 1948-1950.<<

The only CIC unit in South Korea after June 30, 1949, was the detachment
with KMAG Headquarters in Seoul. This detachment had one or two CIC agents
with KMAG detachments at Taejon, Kwang-ju, Kangnung and Pusan. It is
likely Kim In Ho was a CIC informant and continued as an informant when
ROKA CIC assumed control when the Americans left.

taken from

Re: Kim Gu's Assassin, Ahn Doo Whi, was an American Agent

Very interesting.

South Korea though was NOT communist. Subjective, At the time there was an thing called the "red scare". In which communism exploded worldwide. Your point is about it not being right after ww2?

solemnclockwork 06-21-2009 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 736615)
Besides, solemnclockwork, we are talking about South Korea.

When you discuss about South Korea, think like a South Korean, not American.

No, because I'm not South Korean, I was not raised in the culture. What are we talking about here?

Please stop editing your posts before giving me an chance to reply.

This is your words

What is more scary fact for a lot of people is that South Korea before the Korean War has unusually significant left wing or Communist activities.

This is very obvious consider how the union workers in South Korea still preserves this tradition before the Korean War. Not to mention the National Security Act (NSA).


To which I responded

What point is it to post this? America had/has people who want an communist party

Know why I responded that way? Because nations have groups of people who think differently then the others.

the first post was an question as to why i wanted to know why in every thread you defend North Korea so much.

komitsuki 06-21-2009 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by solemnclockwork (Post 736616)
South Korea though was NOT communist.

But the large number of average citizens (mostly farmers and printers) were Communist-sympathizers.

komitsuki 06-21-2009 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by solemnclockwork (Post 736617)
No, because I'm not South Korean, I was not raised in the culture. What are we talking about here?

If you don't have any background information about pre-Korean War South Korea, you don't know very much of what you want to know.

Quote:

Your point is about it not being right after ww2?
Can you read? I said it clearly. If you compare two very different post-WWII environments, it is very hard for you to understand.

solemnclockwork 06-21-2009 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 736620)
If you don't have any background information about pre-Korean War South Korea, you don't know very much of what you want to know.

Ugh, I'm TAKING about CURRENT events. Enlighten me on what I want to know. The whole point of my posts, is North Korea does not deserve to be defended, and that you attack south and America more then attacking the North for what it has/continues to do!

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 736618)
But the large number of average citizens (mostly farmers and printers) were Communist-sympathizers.

Was the government communist?

komitsuki 06-21-2009 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by solemnclockwork (Post 736617)
the first post was an question as to why i wanted to know why in every thread you defend North Korea so much.

I don't defend North Korea in the first place. I didn't comment against the huge majority of negative remarks on North Korea because I agree with them.

You, however, had taken this simple misunderstanding to a whole new level and criticize me without any reasons.

It's because people have so much misconception about South Korea and North Korea.

solemnclockwork 06-21-2009 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 736620)

Can you read? I said it clearly. If you compare two very different post-WWII environments, it is very hard for you to understand.

My point is, it doesn't matter because EVERYONE was dealing with communism after ww2.

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 736623)
I don't defend North Korea in the first place. I didn't comment against the huge majority of negative remarks on North Korea because I agree with them.

You, however, had taken this simple misunderstanding to a whole new level and criticize me without any reasons.

It's because people have so much misconception about South Korea and North Korea.

Really, Ok I'll give you that, but why do you find it necessary to give them praise when there is an negative spoken because of what they have done/do? My point is they rightfully deserve what they get because of what they do. It also strikes as odd why in the same topics you always put negative views on south and America.

http://www.japanforum.com/forum/gene...tml#post734202

comparing the south and saying it's as "evil" as the North.

http://www.japanforum.com/forum/gene...tml#post726067

Saying that South Korea will be an government dictatorship.

http://www.japanforum.com/forum/gene...tml#post726313

Saying that there was an good reason for the starvation of it's people, while also saying south is doing the same thing.

http://www.japanforum.com/forum/gene...tml#post722404

Saying you are natural towards North Korea, and saying you have no problems with the country.

My whole point it SEEMS like you support North Korea.

mizuki9san 06-21-2009 07:46 AM

ok...ok...ok.....let stop here right...there is no use continue on and on...right guys..


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