its illeagal to use them if you dont have the game cuz then its considered stealing which is a crime if you get caught doing this you could be in trouble but it's up to the user if they want to get the gamy legal or not

Seriously..do you actually read the threads or just the titles? We figured this out like an hour ago -_-

oh i read them

There is NO stealing. If I steal something, someone else will lose it. Reproduction is NOT stealing.

Also, ROMs are legal if you own the game, the whole Nintendo legal page is messed up.

"The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet. "

This is total bullshit they created because rom sites run with that excuse (download only if you own the ROM), and it is very legal. If I own the ROM, I own the game, not just the cartridge or CD or whatever, I don't buy the container, I buy the game. If it's damaged, I'm entitled to use aq backup I have made, or even download one, because I have the right to it.

They are pulling all these crap to us, stop us from doing a backup of our purchased game just to find a way to shut down these ROM sites. They damage their customers to save themselves. F****** hypocrites.

Go download ROMs and don't give a damn about them.

Glen, sometimes I love you.

Sadly, afaik that's not true for New Zealand.

Under copyright laws reproduction is considered stealing. they word it in a way that you are taking profit and work from them.

Also under copyright protection you only own the right to play the game, in how the developers see fit (some are more lenient then others).

You also are not allowed to download copyright material even if you own it.( unless the developer makes it where you can legally). so if your only copy breaks, you have to buy a new one. Usually licenses are only for that one use, and that specific copy. So I would advise making a copy when you can.

Nintendo does have a stance even against backups.

Minnesota Technology Law - Copyright Myths and Misconceptions FAQ
Ethical Practices | IS Service Portal

It seems that it is legal to make a rom from a game you already own but you can not do this with a cartridge game as the machine required is illegal. It is illegal to download a ROM. If you make a ROM as a back up copy you are apparently supposed to treat it as the game as well and if you sell the game you must delete the ROM from your pc or disk or whatever.

Also why would it be legal for someone to make a copy of a game as they are all patented and even the oldest nes, atari and so forth still will be for aroun 45 years.

Nintendo dose have a stance against back ups if you read that first link posted with the gamefags one below.

No it's not stealing at all. Considering it as stealing is a bad habit. I wouldn't buy the game IRL in any circumstances, so I downloaded it. I'm not taking any profit at all, because if I didn't download it, I wouldn't buy it... so nothing is lost. But I did infringe the copyright. But it's not stealing.

You just came back at my point. They want us to buy another copy instead of downloading a game we already had bought but it's not working. Damaging their customers to profit their greedy a$$. All this piracy is something they deserve. And piracy is known for making good publicity to games.

Also if they give me a license of one copy I'm allowed to do what I want with it. Backup of that copy should be allowed. The whole copyright thing they write is bastardized to the max.