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Quailboy 08-01-2009 01:35 AM

People Too Afraid of The Internet?
 
A log from a chat I had just now.
Names were starred out and some corrections made to my own spelling.

* 207 (21:10:51): Hi! I'm *** from **.

** (21:11:35): from where?

* (21:11:47): **********, heh, sorry.

**(21:12:07): ah,ok

* (21:12:41): So..you said feel free to contact me. Lets get to know eachother a bit? ^_^

**(21:13:04): um,ok... just don't make it too personnal

* (21:13:36): I"m a little confused, did you get the idea I was coming on to you somehow?

** (21:14:10): no but, I don't know you so... I am being cautious

* (21:14:57): Ah..well, I'm happily in love right now so, no worries!
** (21:17:23): uh yea, ok
** (21:17:36): your probably not near my age anyways

* (21:18:17): Wow...you are..really, really cautious. Whatever. No way I'm going to be able to have an interesting convo about anime or Japanese food with you >.>
* (21:18:36): What would age have to do with talking about similer interests?

** (21:19:09): nothing, look you don't understand that there ARE criminals who use the net
**(21:19:14): to get what they want

* (21:19:41): I do understand this, completely. One of my friends was nearly abducted because she got to into a guy online.
* (21:19:46): I'm not stupid.

** (21:19:56): did I say you were... NO
** (21:20:00): quit assuming

* (21:21:45): Why should I? For all i know you could be an online rapist
* (21:22:07): I wouldn't know if you were now would I?

**(21:22:14): oye, whatever... I don't need this nonsense from an immature teenage boy

* (21:22:44): But yet, I dont care because I didn't plan on giving you any personal information and wanted a convo about similer interests.

Then user proceeded to go offline before my last message had passed though.

Now..what had just happened was very strage to me..maybe because I'm such a open and friendly person most of the time or because she was so sheltered and cautious. But it was odd.
Has the internet make people afraid of talking to others for fear of something to happen to there well-being?

darksyndrem 08-01-2009 01:45 AM

Dude, I had a hard enough time telling who was saying what

Quailboy 08-01-2009 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by darksyndrem (Post 755345)
Dude, I had a hard enough time telling who was saying what

Get glasses?
I'm one *
The other persaon is **

...Seperated for the vison impared.

thcuteness 08-01-2009 01:50 AM

X3 well I always get this weird story from my friends who heard it from a friend who knew this girl, that meet someone online invited them over and got raped or some crap..... which i dont believe a word of it, i think people worry to much about the danger of the all powerful internet due to the fact that they cant face to face interact with someone, and it makes them nervous and scared for no reason, cause you can totally get butt raped by a guy or girl your talking to face to face. but yeah i think people are unrealistical afraid of the internet.

darksyndrem 08-01-2009 01:51 AM

Wow, that is really weird.......surprised this happened to YOU O___O...this wasn't that one girl was it? The one you told me about earlier?

Quailboy 08-01-2009 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by darksyndrem (Post 755349)
Wow, that is really weird.......surprised this happened to YOU O___O...this wasn't that one girl was it? The one you told me about earlier?

The one who's hair you liked? lol nah..a new member here, the name will be kept a secret though, unless a PM is sent to me.

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Originally Posted by thcuteness (Post 755348)
but yeah i think people are unrealisticaly afraid of the internet.

I comletely agree with this.

darksyndrem 08-01-2009 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Quailboy (Post 755350)
The one who's hair you liked? lol nah..a new member here, the name will be kept a secret though, unless a PM is sent to me.



I comletely agree with this.

looool alright

komitsuki 08-01-2009 02:05 AM



We can blame this guy for encouraging internet-related panic. Just have common sense and make yourself safe at all cost. That's all you need.

Quailboy 08-01-2009 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 755352)

We can blame this guy for encouraging internet-related panic. Just have common sense and make yourself safe at all cost. That's all you need.

I really agree with this. NBC Sucks. "Lets make a program about online predeters!" Just to booth there ratings. There is almost no information on it and the online thing we get out of it a few "That guy is disgusting" from the people watching at home, so they keep tuning in to see what other sick bastards they can reel in.

wolf_requiem 08-01-2009 03:22 AM

Well, that short conversation was...interesting to say the least, lol. I mean, you can still be friendly and pleasant without giving any personal info, so what's the big deal? And one thing I don't see what people don't understand, if you feel pressured or something, give false info. If the predator does, so can you. Say you're Taz Kwando from Madagascar when you're really Sarah Joe from Pennsylvania. Of course, the best info is no info at all, but in theory I think it'd be funny. Though, I'm not really up-to-date with technology, predators can't track the exact location of your computer via satellite/internet, can they?

Quailboy 08-01-2009 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf_requiem (Post 755396)
Well, that short conversation was...interesting to say the least, lol. I mean, you can still be friendly and pleasant without giving any personal info, so what's the big deal? And one thing I don't see what people don't understand, if you feel pressured or something, give false info. If the predator does, so can you. Say you're Taz Kwando from Madagascar when you're really Sarah Joe from Pennsylvania. Of course, the best info is no info at all, but in theory I think it'd be funny. Though, I'm not really up-to-date with technology, predators can't track the exact location of your computer via satellite/internet, can they?

Nah. There are ways but, you have to consent to doing it. They would have to get your home adress and what-not..google maps ftw lol

wolf_requiem 08-01-2009 03:30 AM

Good. Now the only problem is the idiots who think, "oh yeah! give my address! that's a great idea!" :rolleyes:

Quailboy 08-01-2009 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf_requiem (Post 755405)
Good. Now the only problem is the idiots who think, "oh yeah! give my address! that's a great idea!" :rolleyes:

I lol'd

People act to shady online..I was talking to that person and I'm sitting in my chair like "wtf?"

wolf_requiem 08-01-2009 03:53 AM

It's true. One of the most disturbing things I find is the perverted middle-aged men (or women as the case may be...haven't heard of that happening, but it'd be sexist to just say men) who hide behind an attractive photo they found online and claim to be that person...one time I talked to someone online, and the first thing they did is sent me an image of them and said, "i sent u my pic, send me urs?" and I said, "lol, sorry no". So he said, "but i sent u mine," so I tried to change the subject like, "so how's the weather where you are?" and he signed off, lol.

JasonTakeshi 08-01-2009 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf_requiem (Post 755396)
Well, that short conversation was...interesting to say the least, lol. I mean, you can still be friendly and pleasant without giving any personal info, so what's the big deal? And one thing I don't see what people don't understand, if you feel pressured or something, give false info. If the predator does, so can you. Say you're Taz Kwando from Madagascar when you're really Sarah Joe from Pennsylvania. Of course, the best info is no info at all, but in theory I think it'd be funny. Though, I'm not really up-to-date with technology, predators can't track the exact location of your computer via satellite/internet, can they?

Everything is possible nowadays.

What Is My IP Address? - Track Down Hacker (Story about some1 who got hacked, but fortunatly they got the Hacker's IP. Was enough to report him to the authorities)

(Something related here, but yes. Someone can track down your Address with just your IP with the right tools. Fortunatly, not everyone can make/acess to such tools)

Quailboy 08-01-2009 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf_requiem (Post 755424)
It's true. One of the most disturbing things I find is the perverted middle-aged men (or women as the case may be...haven't heard of that happening, but it'd be sexist to just say men) who hide behind an attractive photo they found online and claim to be that person...one time I talked to someone online, and the first thing they did is sent me an image of them and said, "i sent u my pic, send me urs?" and I said, "lol, sorry no". So he said, "but i sent u mine," so I tried to change the subject like, "so how's the weather where you are?" and he signed off, lol.

Yeah..those are the weird ones..I'm just like "Hey lady, I'm here to talk, nawt swap nudez with a 156 year old man"

bonjoliehistrionic 08-01-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Quailboy (Post 755451)
Yeah..those are the weird ones..I'm just like "Hey lady, I'm here to talk, nawt swap nudez with a 156 year old man"

i was going out with a boy
and then i found out a few weeks before we got together
he arranged to meet a girl over the internet
and he assaulted her.
i left him (Y)
.
.x

Seanus 08-01-2009 02:20 PM

Too many anonymous sukebe types. It really is lame but Japan has created that phenomenon through glamourising things like chikan and ero-puri. Their idiom, 'the nail that sticks up gets hammered down', has worked against them. Sometimes wa (ha), or harmony, is not the right option. Touching girls on trains is not on. The internet lets people live out their fantasies but as long as they aren't lived out in reality to the same extent.

wolf_requiem 08-01-2009 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanus (Post 755508)
Touching girls on trains is not on.

That reminds me; I heard that there are now women-only train cars because of just this. Do all trains have one, or just certain ones (like busiest, most crowded ones)?

Seanus 08-01-2009 02:50 PM

Ooh, I couldn't tell you. There should be such a thing on one level but they just need to change their ways and stop the molesting. I can tell you from experience that separate carriages on the Denentoshi and Yamanote lines just wouldn't be feasible. Maybe in smaller areas like where I was, in Shimane-ken (prefecture).

Nathan 08-01-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf_requiem (Post 755510)
That reminds me; I heard that there are now women-only train cars because of just this. Do all trains have one, or just certain ones (like busiest, most crowded ones)?

Women only cars have been around for a while.

In Osaka, at least on the JR line, the woman only cars rule was in effect only during certain times of the day.

wolf_requiem 08-01-2009 03:34 PM

Oh, thanks for clearing that up for me :)

seiki 08-01-2009 03:54 PM

I think it is ridiculous that people could be so paranoid about sharing any kind of information. If they arent even willing to share a first name or even country they are from they should probably not be on the internet.

Though an identity thief or a sexual prdator only needs your full name birth date to find you if they really want.

SSJup81 08-02-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Quailboy (Post 755353)
I really agree with this. NBC Sucks. "Lets make a program about online predeters!" Just to booth there ratings. There is almost no information on it and the online thing we get out of it a few "That guy is disgusting" from the people watching at home, so they keep tuning in to see what other sick bastards they can reel in.

I don't see anything wrong with making people aware of online predators. I see if it was ten years ago where the Internet was still pretty "new" as I doubt people thought about it. It's good for parents to monitor what their kids are doing on the Internet or who they're talking to. It's nice so that parents can recognize the signs and all that.

Seanus 08-02-2009 10:44 PM

Very true. I know a mother from Belorus whose daughter was being stalked on the net and she stepped in. Her daughter is only 10 and was followed around and got suggestive e-mails. Although it's a free-floating evil, children can be scared and even scarred.


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