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alanX 08-11-2009 06:22 AM

Nagasaki seeks world ban on nukes.
 
First off, I would like to say that I'm not the biggest fan of our current president, Obama. However, I am on his side regarding his views on this issue.

There's no point in copying & pasting the entire article over here, so I'll just provide a direct link: Nagasaki seeks world ban on nukes | The Japan Times Online

What are your thoughts on this, and what do you think it could lead to?

Go!

Quailboy 08-11-2009 06:29 AM

I'm going to have to agree with Obama on this one, even thoguh I really dont think he is the greatest Prez we've had >.>

alanX 08-11-2009 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Quailboy (Post 759094)
Yeah I know, on a more serious note.
I'm going to have to agree with Obama on this one, even thoguh I really dont think he is the greatest Prez we've had >.>

Do you think the world will ever be "nuke free?"

Quailboy 08-11-2009 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 759095)
Do you think the world will ever be "nuke free?"

Nuke free as in Atom Bomb free? Or Nuke Free as in ???

alanX 08-11-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Quailboy (Post 759096)
Nuke free as in Atom Bomb free? Or Nuke Free as in ???

Nuke, as in "Nuclear Warhead."

Or, yes, the Atomic Bomb.




Anyways, my short answer is "no."

MMM 08-11-2009 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 759095)
Do you think the world will ever be "nuke free?"

Pandora's Box has been opened. I don't think we will ever be nuke-free.

Quailboy 08-11-2009 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 759101)
Pandora's Box has been opened. I don't think we will ever be nuke-free.

How would I find such a box and how would I know that it has been opened?

samurai007 08-11-2009 07:01 AM

It's completely unrealistic, IMO. Let's say America and the west disarm. The Russians, North Korea, Iran, China, Pakistan, etc will almost definitely keep some or all of their nukes, which means there is no longer any balance of power and M.A.D. While it's an unenviable position to be in, we are, in a way, the world's policeman, and disarming the police while not being able to totally and permanently disarm the criminals is a recipe for disaster. Only a fool would believe we should really disarm. The nuclear cat is long out of the bag, and there's no putting it back in anymore... too many people and nations know how to build nukes now that disarming would be suicide.

MMM 08-11-2009 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by samurai007 (Post 759103)
It's completely unrealistic, IMO. Let's say America and the west disarm. The Russians, North Korea, Iran, China, Pakistan, etc will almost definitely keep some or all of their nukes, which means there is no longer any balance of power and M.A.D. While it's an unenviable position to be in, we are, in a way, the world's policeman, and disarming the police while not being able to totally and permanently disarm the criminals is a recipe for disaster. Only a fool would believe we should really disarm. The nuclear cat is long out of the bag, and there's no putting it back in anymore... too many people and nations know how to build nukes now that disarming would be suicide.

I agree with this, although I agree with the sentiments of Pres. Obama and the Mayor of Nagasaki.

We have gone 64 years without one of these devices being used in an act of aggression, and I hope that trend continues for as long as humanly possible.

Tenchu 08-11-2009 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by samurai007 (Post 759103)
It's completely unrealistic, IMO. Let's say America and the west disarm. The Russians, North Korea, Iran, China, Pakistan, etc will almost definitely keep some or all of their nukes, which means there is no longer any balance of power and M.A.D. While it's an unenviable position to be in, we are, in a way, the world's policeman, and disarming the police while not being able to totally and permanently disarm the criminals is a recipe for disaster. Only a fool would believe we should really disarm. The nuclear cat is long out of the bag, and there's no putting it back in anymore... too many people and nations know how to build nukes now that disarming would be suicide.

All people who have nukes are prepared to mass murder. They're all criminals. Don't expect anyone to recieve your "world police" view too well. That's half the reason some countries want nukes to begin with...

Anyway, in this world, I don't think it'll happen. Not while everyone's still fighting for power and money. All countries with nukes have to become friends before anyone of them should be expected to disarm. This includes the US President shaking hands with Iran and N. Korea, yes.

It's stupid to expect others to disarm when you won't.


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