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Sangetsu 12-10-2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 787384)
Things seemed to have gotten a little quiet since Copenhagen started.

Copenhagen will be a non-event. Congress will not agree to any treaty, and President Obama will not make any firm commitments. He will go through the motions because that is what is expected of him, but that will be the limit of his involvement or action. With his approval numbers now under 50%, and larger numbers of people becoming skeptical of global warming, Obama has his hands tied.

Al Gore canceled his appearance in Copenhagen, where people had paid $1200 per person to meet and be photographed with him. That the "king" of global warming won't be present in Copenhagen says quite a lot.

On a side-note, 1700 scientists in Britain signed a declaration saying that they believe the scientist behind global warming is correct. Left unsaid is that many of these scientists have nothing to do with global warming research, and there are reports now coming in that scientists were pressured to sign the declaration:

"A scientist told The Times of London he felt pressure to sign. "The Met Office is a major employer of scientists and has long had a policy of only appointing and working with those who subscribe to their views on man-made global warming," he said."

clintjm 12-10-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sangetsu (Post 787930)
Copenhagen will be a non-event. Congress will not agree to any treaty, and President Obama will not make any firm commitments. He will go through the motions because that is what is expected of him, but that will be the limit of his involvement or action. With his approval numbers now under 50%, and larger numbers of people becoming skeptical of global warming, Obama has his hands tied.

Al Gore canceled his appearance in Copenhagen, where people had paid $1200 per person to meet and be photographed with him. That the "king" of global warming won't be present in Copenhagen says quite a lot.

On a side-note, 1700 scientists in Britain signed a declaration saying that they believe the scientist behind global warming is correct. Left unsaid is that many of these scientists have nothing to do with global warming research, and there are reports now coming in that scientists were pressured to sign the declaration:

"A scientist told The Times of London he felt pressure to sign. "The Met Office is a major employer of scientists and has long had a policy of only appointing and working with those who subscribe to their views on man-made global warming," he said."

Don't worry, Al can afford the loss to pay them back from the billions of profit he has made off of global warming.

Yes 1700, most under pressure as the Times of London quoted, signed. Compare that to the 31,486 with 9029 holding PhDs of American scientists signing the Global Warming Petition -
Link: Global Warming Petition Project
to say they have serious doubts about the validity of climate change and the link with climate change and CO2.

That is like 18:1. Anyway I wonder how many of the 1700 are receiving grants to prove the climate change argument.

Interesting.

You may be right that nothing will really change at Copenhagen. That event isn't designed for opposed thinking.

MMM 12-10-2009 07:33 PM

Al Gore has billions of dollars? I am sure he would love to hear that.

And don't tell Greenland that global warming is a farce. Their economy is rapidly changing thanks to the melting glaciers exposing ore available for mining. Ore never exposed in history is now supposedly available and a lot is being invested in growing businesses.

Shhh...it isn't really happening.

Salvanas 12-10-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 788022)
Al Gore has billions of dollars? I am sure he would love to hear that.

And don't tell Greenland that global warming is a farce. Their economy is rapidly changing thanks to the melting glaciers exposing ore available for mining. Ore never exposed in history is now supposedly available and a lot is being invested in growing businesses.

Shhh...it isn't really happening.

But surely then, countries should be getting warmed, instead of getting colder each year, right? Something sounds fishy.

No one is denying that Global Warming isn't happening, but it's not man made, nor is the world heating up at speeds that the propaganda likes to state it is.

Global warming is a cycle. The world heats up and cools down as a cycle.

Gorotsuki 12-10-2009 08:00 PM

I don't recall anyone saying global warming "isn't" happening. The debate is whether man is causing it or nature. I read a very interesting article from a climatologist that used to work for nasa. His theory for global warming by nature was more than interesting.

clintjm 12-10-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 788022)
Al Gore has billions of dollars? I am sure he would love to hear that.

Your right... that was supposed to be millions.
With the numbers of waist of money in the headlines, the giant number just get blurry.

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 788022)
And don't tell Greenland that global warming is a farce. Their economy is rapidly changing thanks to the melting glaciers exposing ore available for mining. Ore never exposed in history is now supposedly available and a lot is being invested in growing businesses.

Shhh...it isn't really happening.

True. The question is, is it man made or just the ever changing planet weather. I think much of US could use some of that global warming with record cooling temperatures. I guess I should just refer to it as Man-made climate change with posting about this.

But anyway, that is great for Greenland. Excellent post.

Kyousuke 12-10-2009 08:35 PM

it's probably wrong for me to think this but if it takes a lie to get people to change then i like it. but that's me.

Salvanas 12-10-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyousuke (Post 788036)
it's probably wrong for me to think this but if it takes a lie to get people to change then i like it. but that's me.

Change what, though?

If it isn't effecting the world, why should billions of dollars and millions of pounds be spent on something that won't make a difference?

Kyousuke 12-10-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Salvanas (Post 788042)


Change what, though?

If it isn't effecting the world, why should billions of dollars and millions of pounds be spent on something that won't make a difference?

but wouldn't it be better to try and fail than to not try at all? some people are concerned but most people think it's stupid until the day comes when we look at it and wonder why we didn't do anything about it. anyways it's just me and my opinion i wouldn't worry about it much.

Salvanas 12-10-2009 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyousuke (Post 788048)
but wouldn't it be better to try and fail than to not try at all? some people are concerned but most people think it's stupid until the day comes when we look at it and wonder why we didn't do anything about it. anyways it's just me and my opinion i wouldn't worry about it much.

That's the thing though, it's not man made, so whatever we do, will be for nothing :)

In this recession, I'd rather all that money go to a more important place.


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