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lubna 12-15-2009 06:52 AM

ok.its clear now that he will not deport.but the person has five children(wife died)in his previous countery.he also has 3 japanese children.so what would happen with first 5 children????what is their status???father japanese and children other national????can they apply for japanese citizenship???

ozkai 12-15-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lubna (Post 789669)
ok.its clear now that he will not deport.but the person has five children(wife died)in his previous countery.he also has 3 japanese children.so what would happen with first 5 children????what is their status???father japanese and children other national????can they apply for japanese citizenship???

I guess if his five children in his native country are his and he has full custodian status, I cannot see why he wouldn't be allowed to bring them to Japan.

I have no idea about Japanese immigration laws.

A good suggestion (If he can afford it) would be to get a Japanese migration lawyer.

lubna 12-15-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ozkai (Post 789729)
I guess if his five children in his native country are his and he has full custodian status, I cannot see why he wouldn't be allowed to bring them to Japan.

I have no idea about Japanese immigration laws.

A good suggestion (If he can afford it) would be to get a Japanese migration lawyer.




ok.what about lawyer's fees????and one more important question,,he spent 4 years in prision and he is doing work in prision,will he get some wages or money there ?????????????


his five children are not yet registered in japan.

TalnSG 12-15-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ozkai (Post 788262)
Are you sure that a non Japanese blood who has taken out Japanese citizen living in Japan cannot be deported?

I can tell you for sure, I am not.

If a Japanese born national citizen can obtain secret souse visas for their non Japanese partners, secret passports without the non Japanese consent, name changes, citizenship registration, and then the Japanese authorities cannot inform the non Japanese because they are not Japanese, come on.. Clear and simple with a BIG D.

This is raising several questions for me. You said he was a Japanese citizen, but now your are saying he has "taken out Japanese citizen". Have his Japanese citizenship been approved and fully documented, or is it still being processed?

If it is still being processed anything could happen. A criminal record during that process is endangers its approval. If he has not renounced is previous citizenship, or at least agree to when the Japanese is approved, he is still technical a foreign national. And until this his Japanese citizenship is complete, the fate of any children in a foreign country cannot be determined.

Any discussion of "secret" visas or passports is likely to get him deported, if not jailed indefinitely as Nyororin mentioned. Even having fraudulent visas and passports in your possession are a serious crime in most countries, whether you use them or not.

ozkai 12-15-2009 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TalnSG (Post 789891)
This is raising several questions for me. You said he was a Japanese citizen, but now your are saying he has "taken out Japanese citizen". Have his Japanese citizenship been approved and fully documented, or is it still being processed?

No idea regarding your first paragraph.. He is not mine.

lubna 12-16-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TalnSG (Post 789891)
This is raising several questions for me. You said he was a Japanese citizen, but now your are saying he has "taken out Japanese citizen". Have his Japanese citizenship been approved and fully documented, or is it still being processed?

If it is still being processed anything could happen. A criminal record during that process is endangers its approval. If he has not renounced is previous citizenship, or at least agree to when the Japanese is approved, he is still technical a foreign national. And until this his Japanese citizenship is complete, the fate of any children in a foreign country cannot be determined.

Any discussion of "secret" visas or passports is likely to get him deported, if not jailed indefinitely as Nyororin mentioned. Even having fraudulent visas and passports in your possession are a serious crime in most countries, whether you use them or not.


suppose the prisioner was pakistani.he went to japan and married a japanese women while he had already a wife and five children in pakistan.he spent 17 years in japan and got japanese nationality after having 3 japanese children.now he is no more pakistani.now what is the status of pakistani children????can thay ever be able to go to japan.whether thay are not yet regestered in japan.?????

i had asked about the prisioner's wages????can anybody tell me?????his pakistani children are facing very tough financial crises...

WhoIsDaffy 12-16-2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lubna (Post 790177)
.he went to japan and married a japanese women while he had already a wife and five children in pakistan.

erm im no expert,

but im pretty sure you can only be married to one person at a time.

In general if you have a wife and then get married again, without divorcing the first wife.

your second marriage does not count.

as you must be single at the time of signing the certificate.

lubna 12-16-2009 07:17 PM

suppose the prisioner was pakistani.he went to japan and married a japanese women while he had already a wife and five children in pakistan.he spent 17 years in japan and got japanese nationality after having 3 japanese children.now he is no more pakistani.now what is the status of pakistani children????can thay ever be able to go to japan.whether thay are not yet regestered in japan.?????

i had asked about the prisioner's wages????can anybody tell me?????his pakistani children are facing very tough financial crises...

RobinMask 12-16-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lubna (Post 790177)
suppose the prisioner was pakistani.he went to japan and married a japanese women while he had already a wife and five children in pakistan.he spent 17 years in japan and got japanese nationality after having 3 japanese children.now he is no more pakistani.now what is the status of pakistani children????can thay ever be able to go to japan.whether thay are not yet regestered in japan.?????

i had asked about the prisioner's wages????can anybody tell me?????his pakistani children are facing very tough financial crises...

Can I just say that it might be easier to give people the *full* details next time straight away? It's just reading through the posts and replies you keep adding something *new* each time. . . It's hard for anyone to offer you advice or information when no one knows the full facts, you know? In fact it kind of makes me wonder what 'new information' you'll spring up next.

lubna 12-17-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RobinMask (Post 790251)
Can I just say that it might be easier to give people the *full* details next time straight away? It's just reading through the posts and replies you keep adding something *new* each time. . . It's hard for anyone to offer you advice or information when no one knows the full facts, you know? In fact it kind of makes me wonder what 'new information' you'll spring up next.

hahahahahaah.its the general discussion corner.so i thought the discussion must go on an on.i disclose the complete case infront of you all people.may anybody has the knowledge about it????i will be grateful.


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