Japanese jail concessions
 

mushi mushi,
how r u all?i want to know that when a prisoner in japenese jail is spending almost 4 years punishment,is it possible that jail administration give him a concession?if it is then how much?because my relative is releasing on 29th of january.can he get concession of one month?can he release on christmass or on new year?if anybody knows then please inform me as soon as possible.i will be very thankful to u ppl.thanx n bye.

Moooshi moooshi:)

First off, congrat's on the release. I'm sure you relative and the family must be feeling so excited.

Is he a Japanese citizen?

I am wondering if they will deport him back to his country upon release.

I have no idea baout Japanese prison laws, but It would be my guess and say no to an early release..

Can't you find out from a Japanese government consulate?

Will they tell you?

When I read the title of this thread, I was picturing a little candy/snack/soda concession stand at the end of the cell block.

Get rid of that silly "mushi mushi" part next time. We don't say that.

I'm afraid I don't think this is possible at all. I mean it's way too late to do it now for Christmas or New Year's.

Had you acted months ago by hiring a lawer, it could have been a different story.

That's funny:D

ok.i will never repeat the word again.and tnanx.:)

yes he is japanese citizen.is there any risk of deport him?he has a japanese wife and 3 childern.break up with his wife.

I reckon thier would be.

i dont understand.pls tell me in detail.

How could he be deported if his citizenship is in Japan?

Quite. Where would he be deported to...? :confused:

Citizen cannot be deported out of the country he is a citizen of .... that would be termed as "exiled"; and I don't think any major country does that anymore.

However, what the U.S. terms as a "resident alien" can be deported. A resident alien is a foreign national with full rights of property other legalities, such as staying in the host country indefinitely. The main difference is that it requires citizenship for certain things such as voting and holding government offices. If a resident alien breaks the law, then deportation is a consideration in the sentencing process.

China exiles people all the time.

thanx ozkai.:)

It's called discrimination, something which Japan is well known for internationally.

Deportation is something that is done to a NON-citizen. It is sending a person back to their country of origin or citizenship. If you are a Japanese citizen, you are ALREADY in your country of origin or citizenship. It has nothing to do with discrimination.

Japan doesn`t exile (similar to deportation but forcing them to leave the country of citizenship/origin) citizens. So if the person in question is indeed a citizen (I believe they likely are not, and that the original poster misunderstood citizen as "resident") they cannot and will not be forced to leave the country.

A Japanese citizen in trouble outside Japan can be deported back to Japan. A citizen of another country in trouble inside Japan can be deported to their country of citizenship. A Japanese citizen inside Japan cannot and will not be "deported".

Are you sure that a non Japanese blood who has taken out Japanese citizen living in Japan cannot be deported?

I can tell you for sure, I am not.

If a Japanese born national citizen can obtain secret souse visas for their non Japanese partners, secret passports without the non Japanese consent, name changes, citizenship registration, and then the Japanese authorities cannot inform the non Japanese because they are not Japanese, come on.. Clear and simple with a BIG D.

They cannot be. They can be put in prison for the rest of their life, with no hope of release because there is no country to intervene on their behalf... As they have given that up to receive Japanese citizenship. Their family can also be charged with fraud and imprisoned then deported and barred entry from Japan.

Japan technically requires those taking citizenship to give up their original citizenship. This means that there IS no other country to expel you to. You have to realize that deportation is not a decision Japan could make alone - there has to be another country WILLING (or more like obligated) to receive the deported individual. In the case that one is a Japanese citizen, and a Japanese citizen alone - no other country is obligated to accept the deportee. So throwing them in prison for the rest of their life is simplest and easiest.

If the person KEPT their other citizenship, they basically forfeited their Japanese citizenship as you are required to give up your original citizenship in order to receive Japanese. If you did not give it up, it means that you have declined Japanese citizenship - so yes, in that case you wouldn`t have been a Japanese citizen to begin with and no doubt would be deported.

ok.its clear now that he will not deport.but the person has five children(wife died)in his previous countery.he also has 3 japanese children.so what would happen with first 5 children????what is their status???father japanese and children other national????can they apply for japanese citizenship???

I guess if his five children in his native country are his and he has full custodian status, I cannot see why he wouldn't be allowed to bring them to Japan.

I have no idea about Japanese immigration laws.

A good suggestion (If he can afford it) would be to get a Japanese migration lawyer.

ok.what about lawyer's fees????and one more important question,,he spent 4 years in prision and he is doing work in prision,will he get some wages or money there ?????????????


his five children are not yet registered in japan.

This is raising several questions for me. You said he was a Japanese citizen, but now your are saying he has "taken out Japanese citizen". Have his Japanese citizenship been approved and fully documented, or is it still being processed?

If it is still being processed anything could happen. A criminal record during that process is endangers its approval. If he has not renounced is previous citizenship, or at least agree to when the Japanese is approved, he is still technical a foreign national. And until this his Japanese citizenship is complete, the fate of any children in a foreign country cannot be determined.

Any discussion of "secret" visas or passports is likely to get him deported, if not jailed indefinitely as Nyororin mentioned. Even having fraudulent visas and passports in your possession are a serious crime in most countries, whether you use them or not.

No idea regarding your first paragraph.. He is not mine.

suppose the prisioner was pakistani.he went to japan and married a japanese women while he had already a wife and five children in pakistan.he spent 17 years in japan and got japanese nationality after having 3 japanese children.now he is no more pakistani.now what is the status of pakistani children????can thay ever be able to go to japan.whether thay are not yet regestered in japan.?????

i had asked about the prisioner's wages????can anybody tell me?????his pakistani children are facing very tough financial crises...

erm im no expert,

but im pretty sure you can only be married to one person at a time.

In general if you have a wife and then get married again, without divorcing the first wife.

your second marriage does not count.

as you must be single at the time of signing the certificate.

suppose the prisioner was pakistani.he went to japan and married a japanese women while he had already a wife and five children in pakistan.he spent 17 years in japan and got japanese nationality after having 3 japanese children.now he is no more pakistani.now what is the status of pakistani children????can thay ever be able to go to japan.whether thay are not yet regestered in japan.?????

i had asked about the prisioner's wages????can anybody tell me?????his pakistani children are facing very tough financial crises...

Can I just say that it might be easier to give people the *full* details next time straight away? It's just reading through the posts and replies you keep adding something *new* each time. . . It's hard for anyone to offer you advice or information when no one knows the full facts, you know? In fact it kind of makes me wonder what 'new information' you'll spring up next.

hahahahahaah.its the general discussion corner.so i thought the discussion must go on an on.i disclose the complete case infront of you all people.may anybody has the knowledge about it????i will be grateful.

as you must be single at the time of signing the certificate.[/quote]



but if he was married at the second time signing certificate and not mentioned it on papers???????