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PockyMePink 01-05-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by noodle (Post 793471)
I think it was pretty decent how they allowed a "warrior" to join their world. It happens in many films, books and stories where one person, the most unlikely person is chosen for a greater purpose.

And yet, he was still accepted, despite that he was selfish and most of the time didn't give much care about the forest or nature. The people around him trying to advise him seems more kind about the Na'Vi and Pandora than himself.

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Were we watching the same film? Not everyone in the army was portrayed as cold hearted; the woman left :mtongue: ! I'm guessing you, or someone close to you is in the Army, that's why something like that "upset" you. It's not something new for a room full of armed forces talking to be cheering at the idea of killing and defeating an enemy.
Nope, never known anyone in the army. The woman leaving gave me a sexist vibe, tbh. She was the only woman in combat if I remember correctly. It was like they were saying men are for combat, and women are for showing compassion. But that's just imo.
Other than the woman, there was no one who cared for the Na'Vi, unless they were side character, and in that case they didn't make any sort of impact and didn't show up much in the movie.

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To be honest, I'm pretty shocked you thought there was no variety to the world. The variety and imagination expressed in the film was one of the things I liked about the movie... Maybe it's because I, myself have no imagination, but gosh, I'm still surprised, lol.
Examples?
I gave examples of lack of variety, and I've yet to see any examples proving variety outside of landscapes.

noodle 01-05-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PockyMePink (Post 793620)
Examples?
I gave examples of lack of variety, and I've yet to see any examples proving variety outside of landscapes.

lol, why are you replying as though we're debating this? I just gave an opinion. I'm not trying to "prove" anything :cool:

But, what the heck, I'll play along... The idea of the forest communicating with each other as though it was one organism was genius for me. Or how they had to connect to animals and other life forms through their pony tails! Things like that, I've never seen before, and I would have never imagined it myself... so for me, all of it is great imagination!

Oren 01-06-2010 01:06 AM

I haven't seen Avatar yet, and although I was mildly interested while watching the trailers I don't think I'll get to it. If I don't see it in the theaters chances are I won't bother at all. I agree with previous posts that if it's not seen in the theaters, then it's not a good idea to watch it on DVD or as a rental. The CGI's look fantastic, and if I was in the mood for a momentary escape from reality it might be a great choice.

SHAD0W 01-06-2010 12:00 PM

Is this Avatar with the Blue people the same as the cartoon with the bald chinese kid?

Salvanas 01-06-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PockyMePink (Post 793620)
Nope, never known anyone in the army. The woman leaving gave me a sexist vibe, tbh. She was the only woman in combat if I remember correctly. It was like they were saying men are for combat, and women are for showing compassion. But that's just imo.
Other than the woman, there was no one who cared for the Na'Vi, unless they were side character, and in that case they didn't make any sort of impact and didn't show up much in the movie.

I saw multiple women in the army. Multiple. Maybe not in the action, but that's just a coincidence. You can't look into such things, and take them so seriously. Some things are deliberate, but not everything.

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And yet, he was still accepted, despite that he was selfish and most of the time didn't give much care about the forest or nature. The people around him trying to advise him seems more kind about the Na'Vi and Pandora than himself.
He was accepted because they had never seen a warrior of the other clan before. Also, he was chosen by Eywa, and that's like god's word to them. He was no doubt brought in because they could learn more about the humans this way.

Not everything was explained, I agree. But all you have to do, is sometimes sit and think about it. Strategically, if not militarily. What benefits did it have for them? What about the benefits for others? Who did it benefit in the long run?

Then again, you're a woman, as you said, you're more compassionate, and not cut out for military thinking ;D

darksyndrem 01-06-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 793672)
Is this Avatar with the Blue people the same as the cartoon with the bald chinese kid?

Nope, this is completely different.

SHAD0W 01-06-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by darksyndrem (Post 793695)
Nope, this is completely different.

Good. That cartoon sucks.

PockyMePink 01-06-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 793698)
Good. That cartoon sucks.

How would you know? Everytime I tried to get you to watch it you refuse.

ATLA is beyond epic :D

xYinniex 01-08-2010 12:53 AM

i actually went and saw it twice, both times 3d. purely based on the fact my youngest brother threw up from eating too much pizza before we went in 2/3s the way into the film, [just before hometree gets destroyed]

I totally fell in love with it, and sat through the credits, sighing. I loved the landscape, and the romance. Im also partial to machine gun scenes...

Ryzorian 01-08-2010 02:48 AM

Termogard; "Shrug" An army is what it is, merc's or otherwise. They kill, destroy and generally break stuff, that's what they do. Now yes, some armies have a better chain of command and can controle how the troops respond to certain situations. In the end though it's still a WMD, who's primary objective is to destroy the enemy.

The Navi's army was much the same really, sure it was defensive in nature, brought together as a protective measure and rightfully so. However, it's base objectives where identical, destroy the enemy.

It's why leaders generally consider deploying armies a last resort, cause once they are in the field, diplomacy is pretty much over. Well, leaders that aren't out to take over everything. Unfortuantely, for every Ghandi there's several Ceasers


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