Though now it seems he has quit because he doesn't like a certain user. As a mod, I wish he would have discussed that decision with me first. Maybe he informed other mods that his feelings were so strong he couldn't feel like he could stay with the site, but I was in the dark and disappointed to see that.

I may not know the whole story, but if he really left because of an argument with a certain member, then that's very childish of him.

About the whole mod thing, I think it would be the right thing for him to be the mod of the language section, that it would save him the time he spends reporting spamers and arguing with those who have no knowledge of Japanese language.

Arguing in what sense? Was he giving constructive criticism, or was he just being a preachy/know-it-all type of person? Or was it that the people who didn't know anything about the language were saying that they were right, that he was wrong, blah blah blah?

The fact that you say that you find him leaving the site because of a certain user is childish contradicts the fact that you think he should moderate the language section, and to me, I think it's good that he left if he couldn't take a certain person anymore; had he been a mod for that section, I feel that some people might have be banned just because he didn't like them, or because he got a bad impression. With great power comes great responsibility, after all, and if a person can't handle a few idiots, then they are not qualified for that position.

And because I have posted this, some people might get the wrong impression of me, come here and start giving me a hard time when I just want to know the answer to my first question. I'm not attacking him, I'm just asking, and also giving my opinion on the type of person that could be a mod. I know I couldn't be one because I don't have the time, and can't stick to just one place, plus I lack the interest anyway.

More importantly, what kind of a poll has two YES's as an option?!

Nope.

......

I voted yes.

What do you know about Nagoyankee? He has done much more for JF than you ever will.

If you leave, it won't hurt any part of JF, but the language section won't even be the same without Nago.

You won't get none of this, though, as you aren't even interested in Japanese, the most important part of Japanese culture.

You think the language is the most important part of their culture?

I'm won't become personal army simply because I'm not winning anything out of this.

I think this Nagoyankee guy is just craving for attention. JoshAussie is feeding him with that. If you want to leave, just leave. Also, have you even seen his sig?

"I'm leaving JF and I won't come back
as long as a hateful, racist member like
WhoIsDaffy is allowed to stay here."

Who the hell would want a mod who uses this situation to ban some member? He would certainly ban people without hesitation if he had personal issues with them (that is, if he becomes a mod).

So no, I don't give a flying f*** of him being helpful to language members. He does not deserve to be a mod.

I dunno, I think people are talking this a tad bit too seriously. If he leaves because of a person saying stuff online...whatever. His choice. I agree, there shouldn't be a little army created to get him back. Kinda sounds a little attention whore-ish if you ask me...

Someone trolling you and ruining the forum for you is fairly serious. It isn't as though it'd be fun for a person to stay on a forum where someone is just trying to spoil it. Though, I'm not sure that's what happened.

What is his problem with Daffy?

Several of us have objections to Whoisdaffy, but dealing with a troll mentality is never a reason to leave a forum.

But what is with a poll that has only one choice?!?! Regardless of my thoughts about Nagoyankee as moderator, this is NOT a poll.

For real, I think JoshAussie should've put three yes's :D

I think I'll create a poll called, "Should JoshAussie be banned from ever creating a poll?". Of course both options will be "YES". ;)

I agree. Considering how Nagoyankee has decided to leave to this forum (albeit for a while he says) I would not choose him as a mod. Plain and simple.

WhoIsDaffy reminds me of another member that was banned though.

Was he actually a moderator?

in another thread, he says he isn't one.

No, I think MMM tried to say that he (MMM) as a mod, wished that he (Nagoyankee)
would have discussed that dicision...

Ah. I read it again, and realized I misread it the first time.
Thank you for saying what he meant.

I never said he'd be a good mod. If there was a way to make him a mod, but without the the ability to ban people, then I'd be one first people here shouting 'Nagoyankee should be mod!'.

His low temper well known to me too, but looking for what's best for the members of JF, I thought it's better for him to be a mod rather than continuing this childish drama, besides, just because a majority of members think he should be a mod, doesn't mean he will be.

Bureda?

I disagree. I've talked with the Dafster several times already. I feel I was exposed to the same "racist" talk that you guys might be talking about. If I'm wrong, please explain.

He's not racist, he's just extremely opinionated. If you use calm and logic to get to the heart of his matters, you'll understand them. Maybe not agree with them, but he has a valid point of view.

When there's a troll, he should be asked to stop. Failing that, banned permanently.

No one can be expected to stay on a forum so unpleasant as there's a troll spoiling the atmosphere.

Just make sure it really is a troll, however, and not just an extremist individual or such.

So Daffy has been banned after all.

How long for, and why?

Five days.

For a long diatribe using profanity to insult someone. These posts have been deleted.

He could still be a nuisance by deleting people's posts, or editing them. So no, I wouldn't shout that in any possible situation.

How about NO?

A lot ado about nothing. It's amazing how emotional an internet "conversation" can become. Meaningless insults and empty threats; tools of the weak minded and weak spirited who take advantage of anonymity because they would never have the courage to say such things face-to-face.

Getting emotional in response to such remarks is nearly as foolish as making them. One must understand that the world is full of the stupid, and paying too much attention to what one or more of the stupid says or does doesn't make you any smarter. What such people think, say, or do, is utterly irrelevant, and life is to short to waste time with them or on them. They'll find their own way (or not) in their own time.

If Nagoyayankee wants to be a mod, that is not anyone's business but Nagoyayankee's. There are few others as well-qualified, but, again, the choice isn't ours to make. I hope Nagoyayankee decides to stay around, there are too few people at this "Japan" forum who are actually in Japan.

If I remember correctly, mods were always chosen via a poll here. So yeah, you're entirely wrong.

And if someone is destroying that fun for you?

Obviously you just Karate chop him:cool:

Ah, it definitely wont be the same without him. He felt like my (and probably many other members) connection to Japan.

What about when he's saying things that will give other people the poor impressions of you, and you feel that not falling into the trap will leave you with a bad reputation. How do we deal with these trolls? The "character assassination" types.

You have no idea of the lengths some trolls will go to.

But, outside of the individual forums they lurk in, they have no power. Leaving the forum is the obvious choice.

Given you have the ability to just leave, and leave them with their delusions of granduer, there's no other explanation other than they're extremely emotionally challenged people.

When you can just leave, yet still they think they have to persist, they're trying to do nothing other than stroke their own self.

Lost individuals searching for self and peer approval because they can't find it in real life.

I don't understand why these troublemakers aren't banned right away and for good. A few days makes no difference to them. There are many like Daffy (some worse, we all know who I mean) that keep coming back and doing the same thing over and over again. Quitting isn't a good option because then the trolls win.

I don't disagree with you. At the same time I can't read every post made, so when I heard about Nagoyankee's decision I was pretty surprised. I could have done something if I would have known.

I don't like the route of letting the troll win.

This completely ignores the fact that some members are much more productive and useful than other members. Most people on this forum don't contribute anything except their opinion; Nagoyankee actually contributed to the language section and helped a lot of us in immeasurable ways. It is a big deal that he has left because for every 100 users here there is only 1 native Japanese speaker, and an even smaller amount of native speakers who can also fluently speak and explain things in English.

Almost zero, and none (so far) that have put in the time and patience that Nagoyankee has. I really really hope he reconsiders.

Best post in this thread thus far. XD