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MMM 10-10-2010 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by YukisUke (Post 832318)
Well then just what is it? You didn't say anything for the last 12 pages. We are talking about the Quran. It's a "religious document".

The discussion was about a man wanting to burn the Quran, not about the merits or demerits of Islam as a religion. There is a big difference.

Ryzorian 10-10-2010 02:01 AM

So if a guy wanted to burn a bunch of Redwoods..we couldn't discuss anything about the Redwoods, just the merits of burning or not burning said "non discussable woody plant"..How would you go about discerning wether burning or not burning said "non discussable woody plant", had merit or not if we didn't know what the thing was and why someone wanted to burn it?

Dayanx 10-12-2010 01:55 AM

Going back to the meat of it, a lot of people are tired of doublestandards in society and especially in the media. Mainly this consists of how watching mass protests and burning (insert country name) flags and bibles is commonplace, but the mere suggestion of burning a q'uran unleashes a hellstorm of public opinion.

I'm not a huge fan of burning anything- but it bothers me that there is such inequality. Its like political correctness equals some sort of genetic punishment sometimes.

Ryzorian 10-12-2010 04:08 AM

The Double standard is probably because The US wont kill you because you burn the flag and generally christians won't either if you burn Bibles. The same can't be said about Muslims, who pretty much try to kill you if they even think you insulted something they consider sacred.

Wich is all hogwash really, I'm not the one insulted if you burn the Bible, Supposedly God is. God can handle himself last time I checked. Muslims shouldn't be bothered about the Quran, that's more Allah's jurisdiction, so if he's all bothered by it, he can do something.

motoaavtar 10-12-2010 11:41 AM

I guess that in some way it is, but the principles that the U.S.A were founded by are probably different. Hmmm. thinking back, didn't all of this start to happen because of General Petraeus? I'm pretty sure that if he hadn't said anything about this it would't have become as big an issue as it is. Maybe?

YukisUke 10-12-2010 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 832319)
The discussion was about a man wanting to burn the Quran, not about the merits or demerits of Islam as a religion. There is a big difference.

But it's still religious at the end of the day. There is no difference to me.

MuRaSaKiiNkI 10-12-2010 09:41 PM

I'd like to take time to forward people to JF's General Discussion rules:

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Please keep this in mind, please. I love discussing about this topic, but there does not need to be any religious dogma or highly-opinionated jibberish--rules are meant to be followed so we all don't get into fights over what a single bigot is doing.

MMM 10-13-2010 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 832324)
So if a guy wanted to burn a bunch of Redwoods..we couldn't discuss anything about the Redwoods, just the merits of burning or not burning said "non discussable woody plant"..How would you go about discerning wether burning or not burning said "non discussable woody plant", had merit or not if we didn't know what the thing was and why someone wanted to burn it?

Talking about trees is not against the rules we all agreed to when we joined the site. Discussing religion is.

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Originally Posted by YukisUke (Post 832661)
But it's still religious at the end of the day. There is no difference to me.

Saying a man wants to burn a Quran is not promoting a religious belief. Saying OOO is humanity's religious savior, and if you do not believe in OOO you will burn in hell is promoting a religious belief. If you don't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.

YukisUke 10-14-2010 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 832678)
Talking about trees is not against the rules we all agreed to when we joined the site. Discussing religion is.



Saying a man wants to burn a Quran is not promoting a religious belief. Saying OOO is humanity's religious savior, and if you do not believe in OOO you will burn in hell is promoting a religious belief. If you don't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.

Once again, I am shot down.

Jaydelart 10-14-2010 04:11 PM

The purpose for this thread is basically obselete, and the potential to start flaming still exists.
Can we please close this thread?


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