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x2cool 09-08-2010 03:08 PM

Guy who wants to burn the Quran on Sept. 11
 
What do you guys think about Rev. Terry Jones planning to burn the Quran in Gainesville Florida on September 11? I don't think that what he's doing is right but people say that he has the "right" to do it. And I was just wondering how this might affect the opinions of Americans in the world.

MMM 09-08-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by x2cool (Post 828096)
What do you guys think about Rev. Terry Jones planning to burn the Quran in Gainesville Florida on September 11? I don't think that what he's doing is right but people say that he has the "right" to do it. And I was just wondering how this might affect the opinions of Americans in the world.

It is sad that an nut like this, with a congregation of 50 followers (and he lost 30 after his announcement of his plans) can get the world's attention like this. He is taking the attention by the media like a pop star without realizing he mat be on the front lines of a religious war he is single-handedly starting.

He is a nutjob who I hope will see the light before 9/11 and cancel his event, which will surely have more media cameras than supporters.

Ronin4hire 09-08-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 828116)
It is sad that an nut like this, with a congregation of 50 followers (and he lost 30 after his announcement of his plans) can get the world's attention like this. He is taking the attention by the media like a pop star without realizing he mat be on the front lines of a religious war he is single-handedly starting.

He is a nutjob who I hope will see the light before 9/11 and cancel his event, which will surely have more media cameras than supporters.

With such a small congregation. I dont know why this is newsworthy.

I think the media are being somewhat irresponsible.

General Patreaus has already stated that this event will endanger his troops. I will say that coverage of this event is the problem. Not the event itself.

Im not saying that the news should censor itself in the interests of national security. But this kind of story belongs in a local newspaper with city or town officials commenting on it. Not something that world news networks run, inviting worldwide attention.

steamboatsam 09-08-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by x2cool (Post 828096)
What do you guys think about Rev. Terry Jones planning to burn the Quran in Gainesville Florida on September 11? I don't think that what he's doing is right but people say that he has the "right" to do it. And I was just wondering how this might affect the opinions of Americans in the world.

This might be off topic, but it seems to me that the world, or at least America, is about to hit a new "Dark Age" where religion influences the choices of a government more than the political leaders. Rev. Terry Jones maybe a complete, single minded, idiot, but he is probably just the calm before the storm.

Sinestra 09-08-2010 06:28 PM

This guy is just looking for his 15 min of fame. Im sure he and his followers would throw a fit if a bunch of Muslims burn the bible on Christmas.

Hes a nut job he and handful of others are whats keeping people from understanding each other. Instead they chose to spout hate. Under our Constitution he is free to do it does it make it right NO but hes protected. I to ever fiber of my being hate these people.

Jaydelart 09-08-2010 06:36 PM

I really don't know why this is getting so much attention. I suppose people are bored.
He's clearly psychotic; psychotic people do psychotic things. At least, it seems conclusive to me.

He's going to burn the Quran on 9/11, frankly, so what...? I'm not impressed. It's going to be very offensive, naturally, but it's not the first time something held sacred by a certain people has been burned: ethnic and national flags, pictures of significant leaders and religious figures, religious and non-religious books, etc.
Anything that represents a cause or belief... it's probably been burned.

He does have the right to do it -- if the loopholes of the law don't get to him first -- or he accidentally burns down a nearby house. But people also have the right to make him miserable for it. And they will try.




Anyway, I assume this nutjob has created a great opportunity to bash America and/or Christianity. That's generally how society operates, these days.

Jaydelart 09-08-2010 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinestra (Post 828122)
This guy is just looking for his 15 min of fame. Im sure he and his followers would throw a fit if a bunch of Muslims burn the bible on Christmas.

Tsk. 9/11 for Muslims is non-equivalent to Christmas for Christians. Muslims as a general group are hardly related to the terrorist attacks that were committed. In addition, Christians as a general group don't necessarily align with this guy's methods. I'm Christian, I definitely don't agree with this guy's methods.

You were probably just speaking loosely, which I can understand... But, as it is, burning a Quran is horrible. To also mention burning a Bible... kind of falls within the same mindset as this guy. Retribution. He's in his own little world, at the moment, I personally would prefer not to drag average people into his equation.



Why don't we all just burn some firewood??
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MMM 09-08-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 828119)
With such a small congregation. I dont know why this is newsworthy.

I think the media are being somewhat irresponsible.

General Patreaus has already stated that this event will endanger his troops. I will say that coverage of this event is the problem. Not the event itself.

Im not saying that the news should censor itself in the interests of national security. But this kind of story belongs in a local newspaper with city or town officials commenting on it. Not something that world news networks run, inviting worldwide attention.

I agree 100%. I think it the media taking advantage of putting a mic in the face of a nutjob, and the musings of this wacko may actual threaten lives. Turn the cameras off. He has already gotten much more attention than he deserves.

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Originally Posted by steamboatsam (Post 828121)
This might be off topic, but it seems to me that the world, or at least America, is about to hit a new "Dark Age" where religion influences the choices of a government more than the political leaders. Rev. Terry Jones maybe a complete, single minded, idiot, but he is probably just the calm before the storm.

This issue has nothing to do with government. Rev. Terry Jones lost 30 members of his already tiny congregation because of this issue. He literally only has influence on a few dozen bigots. He has no influence on government.

Sinestra 09-08-2010 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaydelart (Post 828125)
Tsk. 9/11 for Muslims is non-equivalent to Christmas for Christians. Muslims as a general group are hardly related to the terrorist attacks that were committed. In addition, Christians as a general group don't necessarily align with this guy's methods. I'm Christian, I definitely don't agree with this guys methods.

You were probably just speaking loosely, which I can understand... But, as it is, burning a Quran is horrible; to also mention burning a Bible... kind of falls within the same mindset as this guy. Retribution. He's in his own little world, at the moment, I personally would prefer not to drag average people into his equation.



Why don't we all just burn some firewood??
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My comment was merely indicating that they feel its ok to burn the Quran and convince others that Islam is evil. If the situation was reversed he and his group would be throwing a fit. Im not sure where you got the idea that i was ok with burning the bible in retribution i dont believe in retribution. Yes i am Atheist and proud of it but i dont condone this kind action on any level nor any level of discrimination of race and or religion.

I am not ok with what hes doing at all and the message he is trying to send.

Jaydelart 09-08-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinestra (Post 828127)
My comment was merely indicating that they feel its ok to burn the Quran and convince others that Islam is evil. If the situation was reversed he and his group would be throwing a fit.

I am not ok with what hes doing at all and the message he is trying to send.

I was referring to the similar retribution aspect of that statement, but I understand what you're saying. I agree.


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