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chiuchimu 09-19-2010 04:41 AM

What other Asian talk about Japan & Whites.
 
I noticed that some of the posters here where clueless on how other Asian races view varies issues concerning Japan and foreigners(.mostly about whites).

I wanted to bring examples of some opinions that other Asians think/talk about.

Here are a couple of threads.
Is Japan a potential threat? - Asia Finest Discussion Forum

Do you think Japan apologized enough?? - Asia Finest Discussion Forum

what is wrong with east asian race - Asia Finest Discussion Forum

How do you feel about Weeaboos and Wapanese people? - Asia Finest Discussion Forum

You might agree with some of it, you might disagree. Point is, the different Asian countries form their own ideas on whats going on.

I can't capture all the opinions of all Asians in a few threads, but if this wets your appetite, it's not hard to find more info.

CoolNard 09-19-2010 06:37 AM

I'm an Asian Chinese, but my take on this is if Japanese culture is your thing, nothing anyone else says should even remotely dampen that spirit. While it is undeniable that other Asians may be tilted toward opposing bigotry for said issues, what matters is that everyone understands that and speaks with due respect, exchanging pointers with their personal cliques, without undermining the rest of the world. I think that applies to those "other Asians", as well. It's all about fairness and being empirically logical, not stereotypical.

Ronin4hire 09-19-2010 09:31 AM

I only skim read it...

But they were some pretty retarded discussions.

chiuchimu 09-19-2010 09:33 AM

@CoolNard
In discussion here. I noticed some posters unaware of Ideas and Attitudes that existed in Asian countries. Japan is not isolated by great distances of water like Hawaii. Japan is right there in the thick of Asia.


I think to discuss political/international issues concerning Japan, It is important to understand what Japans neighbors think and how Japan has to deal with them too.

Those post are all real, just like the posts here are real. Besides, this is a Japanese forum. Negative or positive, it's real and should be made aware of.

@Ronin4Hire
retarded -yes many. But it's for real. Spending some time on that site. one finds a good snapshot of the different opinions and attitudes from each Asian nation. Each country has people for and against different issues but there are overall national trends also. like Koreans wan revenge against Japan. China feels U.S. is challenging them. etc...

Ronin4hire 09-19-2010 09:40 AM

Yeah fair enough...

But I can show you a bunch of white people or black people that think the same way.

I mean... these sorts of views are out there and there is no doubt about it.. but it doesn't mean they represent the majority.

I'm aware of the high nationalist sentiment in Korea. I'm aware of the propaganda of the Chinese against the Japanese.

I guess what I'm saying is that as shocking as some of these viewpoints you've shown us are... I don't think my opinion on anything has changed.

That's just my position on it.

chiuchimu 09-19-2010 09:51 AM

^ I used to think that too the internet crowd is a skewed crowd. The real world majority is different.

Id say the trolls spend a disproportionate time on the internet and they get disproportionate representation. but expect for them, these forums are mostly people like you and me. Like people in a bar drinking, we say more than usual when drunk, but we are the same person next day at work. I think we say things on the internet that we would not say to our friends or coworkers, But it's all coming from normal people.

I think the internet is the voices of the majority, We just don't speak this way in real life(Thank God).

Ronin4hire 09-19-2010 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chiuchimu (Post 829657)
^ I used to think that too the internet crowd is a skewed crowd. The real world majority is different.

Id say the trolls spend a disproportionate time on the internet and they get disproportionate representation. but expect for them, these forums are mostly people like you and me. Like people in a bar drinking, we say more than usual when drunk, but we are the same person next day at work. I think we say things on the internet that we would not say to our friends or coworkers, But it's all coming from normal people.

I think the internet is the voices of the majority, We just don't speak this way in real life(Thank God).

I guess I can't argue with that...

Though I prefer to think about the many reasonable people out there than focus on the many people that aren't reasonable. Asian or otherwise.

After all.. the only way we can truly know who is in the majority is if we spied on every single person and learnt what they said behind closed doors.

It's less stressful for one thing :)

CoolNard 09-19-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chiuchimu (Post 829655)
@CoolNard
In discussion here. I noticed some posters unaware of Ideas and Attitudes that existed in Asian countries. Japan is not isolated by great distances of water like Hawaii. Japan is right there in the thick of Asia.


I think to discuss political/international issues concerning Japan, It is important to understand what Japans neighbors think and how Japan has to deal with them too.

Those post are all real, just like the posts here are real. Besides, this is a Japanese forum. Negative or positive, it's real and should be made aware of.

True. It is important to understand not only how Japan thinks, but how the world does. The awareness helps people not to presume or take/attribute credit for false information. My point is that people may choose to partake in certain discussions and may not in others. Aside from politics, Japan has many other specific aspects we may have the option of looking into, brisking, or leaving as peripheral knowledge. Of course, being "clueless" or ignorant is not preferred, as it may lead to misunderstandings, which is why I agree that we need this "awareness" you talk about. :)

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We just don't speak this way in real life
I do! :o Does that mean I'm whacky?

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 829658)
Though I prefer to think about the many reasonable people out there than focus on the many people that aren't reasonable. Asian or otherwise.

After all.. the only way we can truly know who is in the majority is if we spied on every single person and learnt what they said behind closed doors.

It's less stressful for one thing :)

Tell me about it. I've learnt to just take what people wanna say and repudiate what they wanna keep secret. :rolleyes:


chiuchimu 09-19-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolNard (Post 829660)
I do! :o Does that mean I'm whacky?

:confused: :rolleyes: :D

Jaydelart 09-19-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 829654)
I only skim read it...

But they were some pretty retarded discussions.

Yeah, no kidding.

I'm other Asian, and, although I also only skim read most of the threads, I can say that there was no lack of idiotic remarks. Presuming some of them were even from other Asians, they don't necessarily reflect my opinions at all.



On another note, this is a Japan forum. I wouldn't expect much potential for a balanced discussion regarding Japan versus Korea, China or America -- or any other country, for that matter... honestly. Though, I would hope for one.


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