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The Iranian leader brags about it all the time, race has nothing to do with it.
As to the constant attacks on isreal. Hezbollah and Hamas..both puppets of outside influence from other arab countries..Mostly Iran. But you are correct, there have been no major attacks from an all out invasion force no, because they believe Isreal has nukes....that's the whole point. The Nuke threat holds them at bay. Afganistan was self defense from a direct assault from a group of nutjobs backed and protected by The Taliban who were in charge of Afganistan at the time. |
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"Afghanistan was self defense from a direct assault from a group of nutjobs backed and protected by The Taliban who were in charge of Afganistan at the time." -------------- None of 19 hijackers on Sept. 11 who crashed jets into the WTC or Pentagon or PA were citizens of Afghanistan, dude? The hijackers were from Saudi Arabia (fifteen hijackers), United Arab Emirates (two hijackers), Lebanon (one hijacker) and Egypt (one hijacker) and belonged to al-Qaeda. Even al-Qaeda leader, Osama bin Laden is a Saudi Arabian citizen. ------------- Ryzorian: quote " Hezbollah and Hamas..both puppets of outside influence,..." ------------- Hamas was created by Israel in 1967' as a counter weight to the PLO. And Hamas spiritual leader and co founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin ( Muslim Brotherhood ) was released from prison by the israelis. Whatever support it gets from outside is besides the point since Hamas was a creation of Israel. |
Al-qaeda was based in Afganistan. Bin Laden was hideing in Afganistan, protected by the Taliban. Saudia Arbia has a large population of nutjobs that's true..based on Wahibbi, a harsh exstreamist version of Islam. However, it's not on the radar.........yet.
Hamas was not created by Isreal, that's like saying Jews created Hitler and the Nazi's. They release prsioners all the time in the hope it will bring peace..it never does. |
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"Al-qaeda was based in Afganistan,.." ------------------- al-Qaeda has bases in a half dozen or more countries dude? From Somalia,Yemen Pakistan etc. the majority of it's funding from Saudi Arabia. The origins of al-Qaeda as a network inspiring terrorism around the world and training operatives can be traced to the Soviet War in Afghanistan (Dec 1979—Feb 1989) The U.S. channeled funds through Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency to the Afghan mujahideen fighting the Soviet occupation in a CIA program called Operation Cyclone. Translation: al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden were created ,armed and trained, and on the payroll of Saudi Arabia and the US. ------------------- Ryzorian: quote "Hamas was not created by Isreal, that's like saying Jews created Hitler and the Nazi's,.." ----------------- The US Ambassador to Israel since 2002 has gone on the public record and has more experience in Middle East affairs than you dude, *sorry to pop your'e bubble. According to the Dec. 21 ( 2002 ) Israeli daily Ha'aretz, US Ambassador to Israel Daniel Kurtzer made these extraordinary statements at a seminar on religion and politics Israeli Roots of Hamas are being exposed Centre for Research on Globalisation 18/18/02: Dean Andromidas Speaking in Jerusalem Dec. 20, U.S. Ambassador to Israel Daniel Kurtzer made the connection between the growth of the Islamic fundamentalist groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and and Israel's promotion of the Islamic movement ( Hamas ) as a counter to the Palestinian nationalist movement. The Enemy of My Enemy Is My Friend This statement is extraordinary given the fact that Kurtzer is a very senior diplomat, having held the post of Ambassador to Egypt just prior to going on to Tel Aviv. He is also an Orthodox Jew who is not shy of criticizing the extreme anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic views held by certain Arab circles. But Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon rarely grants the United States' highest representative in Israel an official audience. ----------------------------- And another source dude, Hamas history tied to Israel By Richard Sale UPI Terrorism Correspondent 06/18/02 "UPI" Israel and Hamas may currently be locked in deadly combat, but, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials, beginning in the late 1970s, Tel Aviv gave direct and indirect financial aid to Hamas over a period of years. Israel "aided Hamas directly -- the Israelis wanted to use it as a counterbalance to the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization)," said Tony Cordesman, Middle East analyst for the Center for Strategic Studies. According to ICT papers, Hamas was legally registered in Israel in 1978 by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the movement's spiritual leader, as an Islamic Association by the name Al-Mujamma al Islami, which widened its base of supporters and sympathizers by religious propaganda and social work. According to U.S. administration officials, funds for the movement came from the oil-producing states and directly and indirectly from Israel. According to former State Department counter-terrorism official Larry Johnson, "the Israelis are their own worst enemies when it comes to fighting terrorism." Copyright © 2001-2004 United Press International |
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Can you two please take your off topic crap elsewhere?!?! Preferably OFF line.:mad: |
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dude , cut back on the ED medication and take a few deep breaths*
"are there some off topic posts in this thread? yes. " ".. but there also some real gems in here!" my apologies for ruining your'e "internets' enjoyment. |
I appreciate the amount of information being shared, but I'd have to agree... although, initially, it may have been relative to the point, it has been kind of straying from the topic.
Siokan, sorry, what is that picture displaying and what are you pointing out, exactly? I would assume it was the aftermath of the South's counter-battery fire on the North? |
Military results of South Korea.
A poor response of Korean Force and the flaw of arms are exposed. It is mysterious why to have made the flaw of Korean Force public. |
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I don't know what the ROE or standard artillery tactics include, but it seems clear that the majority of the counter-battery shells were overshot to the north. With that established, I have a theory... Artillery can be fired in a chain of subsequent adjustments... meaning, they will initiate their fire with estimated calculations, and, in accordance with every impact, continue to correct it closer to the target until they're more effective. Notice that some of the rounds are considerably close to the target. It would make a lot of sense if the rounds began far north and were corrected to land southward, just before the emplacements. If it was believed the structures to the south contained any kind of civilian entity, it would be logical to begin estimated fire to the far north. However, that would also indicate a certain lack of confidence in accuracy. Overall, it may be of strategic importance to make some presence rather than none at all. That could justify firing rounds, even if they did not hit. I wouldn't say it was an absolute display of error. There's simply not enough information (that I see) to completely support that conclusion. But it is an interesting picture nontheless. |
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