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Ronin4hire 12-08-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 840884)
Muslim's build mosques at cites where great victories for Islam happened, It's one of the teneants

Oh my.. You even think it's a tenant and are comparing it to an example that bears very little resemblance.

You see my point now komitsuki? Accurate language, precise definitions are important

komitsuki 12-08-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 840916)
You see my point now komitsuki? Accurate language, precise definitions are important

Perhaps you should see the South Korean politics in the South Korean point of view. Not in a first world Western point of view.

Ryzorian 12-10-2010 04:00 AM

Ronin; it is a tenant. You have any idea what fatwa's are? Some Imam issues this and it becomes a tenant of the faith nearly as important as the Quran. It's just the way it is..Shiria doesn't negotiate and it wont compramise.

MMM; The Muslims ended up being driven back in Spain by El Cid, after the Muslims had intially invaded. Ironically he used the help of Spainish muslims to drive the rest out. The Muslim invasions of Europe happened before the Crusades by the way, the Crusades happened as a response. Plus, the muslim invasions of Europe continued well into the middle ages, several hundred years after the last crusader had left the holy land. This isn't a new thing here, islam has been wageing their jihad for over 1400 years, it has never stopped.

Fluffy; The new Paladin system is similer in function to how the German artillery works. I believe all of Nato is working on GPS type artillery with GPS rounds.

MMM 12-10-2010 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 840918)
Perhaps you should see the South Korean politics in the South Korean point of view. Not in a first world Western point of view.

You have created a paradigm where no one is allowed to have any opinion unless it is exactly the same as yours. And in S. Korea, yours would be the minority opinion.

Ronin4hire 12-10-2010 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 841114)
Ronin; it is a tenant. You have any idea what fatwa's are? Some Imam issues this and it becomes a tenant of the faith nearly as important as the Quran. It's just the way it is..Shiria doesn't negotiate and it wont compramise.


I know what Fatwa is.

I also know that Islam has no central authority. So an Imam can command many followers... but what he says is as relevant to making authorised statements about Islam as Ted Haggard is to the Christian faith.

RealJames 12-10-2010 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 840918)
Perhaps you should see the South Korean politics in the South Korean point of view. Not in a first world Western point of view.

I hope you're not implying that SK isn't first world...

komitsuki 12-10-2010 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 841126)
I hope you're not implying that SK isn't first world...

South Korea in the 1950s used to have the same level of economy and social progress as in Afghanistan in the 2000. Many South Koreans right now still don't consider their own country a First World (Seonjinguk) technically.

Our president keep saying "Seonjinguk, Seonjinguk, Seonjinguk" many times, now it sounds like a Nazi era mantra.

I presonally think the First, Second, Third world countries distinction is a Cold War relic insignificant to the 21st century.

fluffy0000 12-10-2010 08:13 AM

again sorta not
 
Ryzorian
.., the Paladin is not new?.., the US Army Paladin M109A6 was produced from 1994-1999' is based on M109 which is over 50yrs old and ceased production with the exception of 30 units 2000'-2002'.
There is no US Army Paladin system 'new' or otherwise.

Nato is not working on a 'GPS' precision munitions because both US and these Five countries already have a 'GPS' precision munitions - M982 Excalibur ( Raytheon Missile Systems and BAE Systems Bofors ) first produced in 2007'.

Sweden
Australia—pending FMS request
Canada
United States
Norway

MMM 12-10-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 841132)
South Korea in the 1950s used to have the same level of economy and social progress as in Afghanistan in the 2000. Many South Koreans right now still don't consider their own country a First World (Seonjinguk) technically.

Our president keep saying "Seonjinguk, Seonjinguk, Seonjinguk" many times, now it sounds like a Nazi era mantra.

I presonally think the First, Second, Third world countries distinction is a Cold War relic insignificant to the 21st century.

This is getting rather silly. Of course S. Korea is a First World Country. They import and export, have a strong economy.

If you think that designation is "Nazi era" then that is fine, but it doesn't help fuel the conversation. S. Koreans are not eaten by animals and live in electricity-free huts. It's OK that S. Korea is First World.

Ronin4hire 12-11-2010 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 841132)

I presonally think the First, Second, Third world countries distinction is a Cold War relic insignificant to the 21st century.

You're the one who used the term first!
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Perhaps you should see the South Korean politics in the South Korean point of view. Not in a first world Western point of view.
Now you're saying it's insignificant!


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