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baby hatches-- SAFE PlaceS TO LEAVE A BABY
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I have seen some programmes where a safe haven is provided to leave an unwanted baby. Often a desperate girl or woman who has a baby-- but for some reason cannot care for it-- Or possibly needs to Hide Her pregnancy and new born baby-- would leave a baby somewhere where she hoped it would be quickly found-- then placed in a good home. I doubt this happens as much as it used to do-- But do you think its a good thing to provide theseSafe Havens--baby Hatches for a baby-- rather than run the risk of the child not being found in time. One sees programmes where adult foundlings are very keen to know where they were left-- and to try to trace their background. does Japan provide this sort of thing? does your own country have such places? |
Medieval days are long gone. You can put the baby up for adoption right quick after giving birth, that way you make sure he gets a family from a very young age. Dropping him off at some place, hoping he gets found... doesn't seem like an option I'd recommand.
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Here in the States there are places where one can 'drop off' an unwanted child without any repercussions, such as fire stations, police stations, etc. What happens a bit too much here is that girls hide their pregnancies and deliver the kids themselves without any medical supervision. They do so because they don't want the families to know so they would 'discard' them in trash bins. Officials took notice and set these safe depositories so those newly born children would survive.
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Hello John, yes its not wanting anyone to know that can definitely be a reason. Poor girls being so desperate having to give birth all alone. How terrifying must that be. Of course not so long ago it was very common-- when it WAS a sin to have a child out of wedlock-- even in the 1960's too many babies were forcibly removed from a mother to give away for adoption. If society had not been so bigoted-- plus the CHURCH who was terribly bigoted-- many of those mothers could have kept their child-- but there was so little social support for them. those who have been brought up taking it for granted that its okay to have a child out of wedlock-- possibly may not realise how cruel it was-- And that was not so long ago. There are far less young babies available for adoption nowadays because there is far more help available than there ever was before. |
It sounds heartless to me.
JOHN BRADEN Edit: I kind of feel like adding that it reduces the child to nothing more than an object, something to be discarded whenever the mother feels like. If the child was given up for adoption, especially if the mother helps to choose the adoptive parent, that I could understand. . . but to cast it aside into a hatch without a second glance? It's no different to throwing out an old teddy or toy and just hoping someone picks it up off the pavement, it's almost monstrous how uncaring it is, how someone could see a human life as being worthless, as equal to an object.[/quote] I would say it is DESPERATION John. surely you don't think a mother will do that easily? |
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I would say it is DESPERATION John. surely you don't think a mother will do that easily?[/quote] Well, these pregnancies happen because the kids having sex, and they ARE kids, don't know what the repercussions to "getting laid" are and don't use protection, etc. There are so many women here who have kids from several men that it sickens me that I'm paying into their welfare checks because they don't know any better. When one is young and doesn't know the repercussions, they get rid of them like an unwanted toy, totally desensitizing them in the future...(the women, I mean to say) I'd have to say that in China, things are so much worse.... Dumping girls (aren't asian girls so cute?!) in the trash to die because of the "one child rule". They want boys, not girls. That's why most of the adoptions in China are girls. I know the government has cracked down on this practice of getting pregnant until they have a boy, discarding the unwanted girls. I'm sure it still happens quite a bit in the more rural areas of China... I must emphasize here, in no way am I condoning these courses of action.... |
I'm not too sure.
Here in the UK there's been a lot of babies being dumped by their mothers lately, where they've been found dead. In my area alone there has been 2 cases recently. Although those baby hatches leave no way for the mother to be traced, or for the child to know who the mother is when he/she grows up, surely it's a better option than the baby dying. As far as the mother's post-natal depression etc goes, she would have that whether the baby is put in the hatch or not, so it may as well be there to save the baby's life. As far as I know of, there's no such things here in the UK. |
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Interesting last comment ROBINpp forgive me if I got the wrong ID. I am hopeless at separating QUOTES. Need some help with that really Well actually many women stil ldo lose their child when they are sick or on drugs or social services believe their child or children will be at risk. It Happens here A LOT. The family courts are usually held in secret. so many parents are on drugs these days-- so if there is a risk that they will never get off drugs-- or recover often a child who is temporarily fostered-- will eventually be taken for adoption. The risk factor being taken into account. some social workers remove a child immediately the mother has given birth-- Here in this country this happens. I think when there is real genuine fear that a child will be abused when returned to its parent-- then the decision is made in the family courts. too often fostered children Are returned to their Home but are abused when they are there. |
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sometimes we hear of abandoned babies here in UK-- quite often outside hospitals. They always make efforts to trace the baby's mother and to know that she is safe and all right.
surely much must depend on where the mother is living when her child is born. |
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I don' tknow if the adoption law has changed as far as a child that has been adopted-- can still have access to his or her own mother. certainly usually that was NOt the case. would the adoptive parents be agreeable I wonder.? |
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When one is young and doesn't know the repercussions, they get rid of them like an unwanted toy, totally desensitizing them in the future...(the women, I mean to say) I'd have to say that in China, things are so much worse.... Dumping girls (are girls so cute?!) in the trash to die because of the "one child rule". They want boys, not girls. That's why most of the adoptions in China are girls. I know the government has cracked down on this practice of getting pregnant until they have a boy, discarding the unwanted girls. I'm sure it still happens quite a bit in the more rural areas of China... I must emphasize here, in no way am I condoning these courses of action....[/quote] Yes the way chinese female baby's were discarded or left to die in orphanages was/is? so barbaric. That film I saw a few years ago was really sickening. I pray it does not still happen. but we see orphanages in some countries that are truly terrible. Ps please forgive my lack of quoting sections from previous posters messages. I simply cannot get the hang of it. |
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Whilst I don't agree with it, I think if people are gunna do it, might as well have a safe place for the children to go to.
I agree, though. We are not in the medieval times anymore. |
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Well maybe if there was a rule like 'the baby must be kept available to the mother only up until 'X' amount of time after the drop off' then it may be able to work like that... |
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I believe there is a time limit for this. |
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When I had some access to my own records of my time in care it stated that the mother dumped the child and left no name or address so she could not be contacted at the time from then on the London county council took over trying to find some place to dump me. which meant many many different placements-- which is why even nowadays children in foster care still are moved around relentlessly. |
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whether or not they SHould Do it-- It does Happen--NOW.
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There was, and may still be - I`m not up to date on it - a baby hatch in Japan. I posted about it here;
http://www.japanforum.com/forum/japa...tml#post130223 |
Search for mother who abandoned baby found with umbilical cord still attached in bushes | Mail Online
this was a year ago. I do not know what happened afterwards. another: Baby boy left at Cwmcarn Spar store in South Wales dies | Mail Online |
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That was only just up the road from me. |
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