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marinestar 01-03-2011 01:15 AM

Outrage: Sick Dolphin Held Captive In Filthy Tank – Take Action
 
Misty, as the dolphin has come to be called by volunteers monitoring her condition, is in a small tank that appears to be extremely unsanitary, filled with dead fish and algae, and with no filtration system. The dolphin treads water while continually holding a yellow buoy in its mouth for consolation, like a lost child holding onto a teddy bear. Dolphin base has admitted the dolphin is sick to the Sea Shepherd Cove Guardians, who are monitoring Misty and have taken the video and pictures here.

This cannot stand. Express your outrage to the Japanese Embassy or contact the people holding this dolphin at:
Hotel Dolphin Resort
703-15 Moriura,
Taiji-cho, Higashimuro-gun,
Wakayama Prefecture 649-5172, Japan
Tel: +81 0735 59 3514
Fax +81 0735 59 2810

Misty The Dolphin Held At Dirty Pool Tank In Taiji Japan | Global Animal

Save Misty the Dolphin | Facebook

Misty the Dolphin fights for life in 2011 - CNN iReport

seiki 01-03-2011 01:39 AM

I wonder of misty were a cat fish or something similar would anyone care.

marinestar 01-03-2011 03:06 AM

@seiki
 
Different animals have different requirements, firstly a dolphin is not a fish it is a mammal and one with a proven high level of intelligence, that is why people care

siokan 01-03-2011 03:18 AM

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kill stupid person

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seiki 01-03-2011 03:43 AM

But a dolphin would not have to breath water a fish would.

Ronin4hire 01-03-2011 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by seiki (Post 844704)
I wonder of misty were a cat fish or something similar would anyone care.

Considering that there is an SPCA in most Western countries... people would.

EDIT- I read cat not catfish so disregard my answer

Ronin4hire 01-03-2011 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by seiki (Post 844716)
But a dolphin would not have to breath water a fish would.

Living in dirty water is still a health risk even if you aren't breathing it.

seiki 01-03-2011 05:36 AM

Well I understand that but you have to stand up for sea kittens.

Ronin4hire 01-03-2011 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by seiki (Post 844736)
Well I understand that but you have to stand up for sea kittens.

I don't see the problem in prioritising animals according to their intelligence.

But you're right. Animal cruelty is disgusting no matter which animal it is.

Lianviv 01-03-2011 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by marinestar (Post 844699)
Misty, as the dolphin has come to be called by volunteers monitoring her condition, is in a small tank that appears to be extremely unsanitary, filled with dead fish and algae, and with no filtration system. The dolphin treads water while continually holding a yellow buoy in its mouth for consolation, like a lost child holding onto a teddy bear. Dolphin base has admitted the dolphin is sick to the Sea Shepherd Cove Guardians, who are monitoring Misty and have taken the video and pictures here.

This cannot stand. Express your outrage to the Japanese Embassy or contact the people holding this dolphin at:
Hotel Dolphin Resort
703-15 Moriura,
Taiji-cho, Higashimuro-gun,
Wakayama Prefecture 649-5172, Japan
Tel: +81 0735 59 3514
Fax +81 0735 59 2810

Misty The Dolphin Held At Dirty Pool Tank In Taiji Japan | Global Animal

Save Misty the Dolphin | Facebook

Misty the Dolphin fights for life in 2011 - CNN iReport

Please care and do anything you can to help.

harmony12 01-03-2011 10:04 AM

Understanding
 
I am trying to understand why dolphins are considered to be fish and are eaten as such?

evanny 01-03-2011 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by harmony12 (Post 844777)
I am trying to understand why dolphins are considered to be fish and are eaten as such?

because they are basically. only difference is warm blood and that's it. they taste good and can be caught like any other sea creature - by fishing.

and if you are keeping an animal then yea...at least take care of it or if you can't then put it down or since it's a big fish - eat it. at least you'll get your money back :cool:

Ronin4hire 01-03-2011 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by evanny (Post 844779)
because they are basically. only difference is warm blood and that's it.

I know you were just trolling... but I just had to let you know that you need a lesson in marine biology haha

harmony12 01-03-2011 10:54 AM

Why are dolphins not respected as intelligent, sociable and curious mammals that they are as opposed to just fish? I really would like to understand, is this due to differences in empathy, culture, tradition?

Ronin4hire 01-03-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by harmony12 (Post 844789)
Why are dolphins not respected as intelligent, sociable and curious mammals that they are as opposed to just fish? I really would like to understand, is this due to differences in empathy, culture, tradition?

It's because such an idea is probably very recent.

I don't think treating animals badly is due to tradition. In fact Japanese tradition tends to revere nature more than anything else.

I would just put it down to ignorance.

harmony12 01-03-2011 11:09 AM

How do you think ignorance can be changed into knowledge and understanding?

Thank you for your feedback. :)

Ronin4hire 01-03-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by harmony12 (Post 844792)
How do you think ignorance can be changed into knowledge and understanding?

Thank you for your feedback. :)

It's a difficult question. Through discussion and debate hopefully. But I can't really give a answer better than that.

Oh and you're welcome :)

harmony12 01-03-2011 11:20 AM

One last question for the moment :) - where is the best place ie forums/networking sites etc to possibly have a discussion to understand other peoples views? Obviously other than this forum which is great.

Thanks again:)

Ronin4hire 01-03-2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by harmony12 (Post 844797)
One last question for the moment :) - where is the best place ie forums/networking sites etc to possibly have a discussion to understand other peoples views? Obviously other than this forum which is great.

Thanks again:)

The places I frequent are mostly full of Westerners so I couldn't tell you but I think regarding topics concerning Japan this place is the best.

There's another forum called Asiasfinest out there that discusses all things Asia including Japan but that forum is not moderated very well and as a result is full of racists and trolls.

Informed 01-10-2011 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by harmony12 (Post 844792)
How do you think ignorance can be changed into knowledge and understanding?

If you are speaking about Japan specifically, I don't think that you will have a hard time educating people to know and understand but you will have a harder time having them voice and enact anti-slaughter anti-whaling sentiments ... UNTIL it becomes seen as accepted group thought.

In order to do that, you need group thought leaders to voice it.

At present the paid, governmental pro-whaling group thought leaders are working overtime to establish an anti-conservationist group thought based on false arguments and false logic.

The tendency you are fighting against is not stupidity or a lack of compassion but conformity.

If you look back at the Minamata Disaster, you will see the exact same dynamics. At first the company and government got away with it all because no one would speak out, next those that did speak out were turned against for bring shame onto the company, then a local leader got involved and suddenly everyone supported the issue and progress was made but ... THEN the government did what it does best, digging its heels in and dragging the whole thing out for as long as possible.

I propose the very same dynamics will happen here related to dolphins and whales. In this case, those dragging the heels are those whose self-interest is in being paid for life and pensioned on the back of bureaucracies that do not need to exist and which are generously financed by Japanese tax payers (of which I am one).

In such as case, my opinion is that Japan and the Japanese really do not have the personal and organization tools to challenge and change the situation and so change can only come form within and by "non-Japanese" methods.

Over to you Sea Shepherd, Greenpeace and all ...

JasonTakeshi 01-10-2011 06:30 AM

If he gets better, can I eat him?

I would love to.

Informed 01-15-2011 03:02 AM

Sadly, I can see from elsewhere in this forum that you only have one joke on the subject ... if you want to eat something that has be swimming around in its own shit and piss for months then please be my guest. Yes, dolphins shit and piss like the rest of we mammals and if they are trapped in small swimming pool, then there is no where for it to go.

Somehow I think even you would be disgusted if I told you you had to eat it.

Scientists say dolphins should be treated as 'non-human persons'.

That pool is smaller than many Californians have for their in their own backyard.

amberlacey 01-18-2011 05:30 PM

YouTube - Cove still runs Red: Jan 18th 2011

YouTube - Taiji Dolphin Slaughter January 13th, 2011

YouTube - Taiji Dolphin Slaughter, January 11, 2011

YouTube - Taiji Whale Museum "I Wish I Could Help You!"

Thank you for watching these videos. Hopefully they will open your eyes.


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