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RealJames 01-14-2011 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sitron (Post 846362)
Does this count even if you are going alone to a club?

Especially in that case, you're more approachable.

dogsbody70 01-14-2011 10:20 AM

isn't there a shred of respect for women?

why not just buy one of Japan's amazing DOLLS. Have you seen them? really life like and gorgeous.

WingsToDiscovery 01-14-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dogsbody70 (Post 846453)
isn't there a shred of respect for women?

why not just buy one of Japan's amazing DOLLS. Have you seen them? really life like and gorgeous.

Without trying to be too philosophical, you should evaluate what morals (respect) are themselves before you insinuate that others lack them.

dogsbody70 01-14-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery (Post 846456)
Without trying to be too philosophical, you should evaluate what morals (respect) are themselves before you insinuate that others lack them.

having read some of the attitudes to using women for sexual purposes or vice versa---


Yes there are women who do it for money-- only yesterday on BBC television programme Question Time-- it ws mentioned that many people from the care system were forced onto the streets here in UK-- then pimped-- set out on the drugs path and that dreadful spiral.

Maybe I am thinking of another thread on here re attitude towards going to Japan precisely to have it off with some chicks.

what resepct or self respect is there. these Japanese dolls could do the trick.

quite honestly the whole attitude makes me want to be sick.

Yes I am an old woman-- I have also been young and fo rme Love making is so beautiful whensharedwith the person I love.

Not just any body!!!

Still I guess its the way Humans were designed------ be lustful and spread your seed abundantly.

clairebear 01-14-2011 07:49 PM

This thread creeps me the hell out. But then I look at who the OP is and it all makes sense....

Columbine 01-14-2011 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by clairebear (Post 846510)
This thread creeps me the hell out.

Oh good, not just me then.

NanteNa 01-14-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by masaegu (Post 846213)
You sure make silly comments for a mod. You've never even been to Japan.

Yeah, and I meant it to be silly. So I can't be aware that loli porn is a Japanese based phenomenon without HAVING to have been to Japan? That's just dumb. You sure make silly comments for a member living in 'Central Tokyo'.

clairebear 01-14-2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MissMisa (Post 846511)
Haha I agree.

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 846519)
Oh good, not just me then.

Glad I'm not the only one. I thought I was just being my regular prudish self. 8)

NanteNa 01-14-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by clairebear (Post 846523)
Glad I'm not the only one. I thought I was just being my regular prudish self. 8)

The only thing that is a little 'eh' to me in this thread is that guys come to a FORUM to ask for advice on how to pick up girls in Japan and get laid.. O_O

clairebear 01-14-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NanteNa (Post 846525)
The only thing that is a little 'eh' to me in this thread is that guys come to a FORUM to ask for advice on how to pick up girls in Japan and get laid.. O_O

Some guys need all the help they can get. Poor little souls. :rolleyes:

diru1 01-14-2011 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MissMisa (Post 846527)
Haha I know, I kind of feel really sorry for those that have to go to the other side of the world, and then PAY someone to have sex with them... man. What a life!

It is, but would you rather have them rape people? if not then why even feel sorry? Be greatful for what you have and don't look down on others.

Sitron 01-14-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MissMisa (Post 846527)
Haha I know, I kind of feel really sorry for those that have to go to the other side of the world, and then PAY someone to have sex with them... man. What a life!

I'll tell you why I want to do that:

1) I can't get laid for free. I've never even kissed and I'm 24. Some of us are just not something women want to be near.

2) I'm not attracted to white women. I live in Norway, which is like 95% white, and most of the prostitutes are either white or Nigerians (which I like even less).

3) I might be able to get a fat ugly pig with me for free, but I want to be with a pretty woman. I can only get a pretty woman with money. And if I treat her right she might want to meet with me for friendship and have sex with me for free. I lurk in a lot of prostitution forums and I read a lot of stories about prostitutes that fall in love with their customers. If I treat her right maybe I'll be the next one?

4) I'm going to Tokyo - not for the prostitution, but while I'm there why not try it? I love Asian women, and paying for sex is a lot cheaper there than here.

Sitron 01-14-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MissMisa (Post 846550)
*double facepalm.*

Maybe your attitude towards women is the problem.

There's nothing wrong with my attitude, I'm just not attractive enough for women.

RobinMask 01-14-2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sitron (Post 846555)
There's nothing wrong with my attitude, I'm just not attractive enough for women.

In your other thread you called women 'nasty', 'pigs' and 'ugly' all in one paragraph - seems like a bad attitude to me. I'm inclined to agree with someone else in that thread, which is that you're an online troll.

clairebear 01-14-2011 10:42 PM

Racism ftw?

EDIT: Well yeah, clearly this guy is a troll. I'm not sure why he's still on the forum tbh. *goes to speak with other mods...*

Sitron 01-14-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by clairebear (Post 846559)
Racism ftw?

EDIT: Well yeah, clearly this guy is a troll. I'm not sure why he's still on the forum tbh. *goes to speak with other mods...*

I'm a racist because I don't like white women?

clairebear 01-14-2011 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sitron (Post 846568)
I'm a racist because I don't like white women?

Are you implying that it's not racist to say you don't like women of a certain colour? Oh wait, that can't be racist because you're white yourself, right? :rolleyes:

Sitron 01-14-2011 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by clairebear (Post 846569)
Are you implying that it's not racist to say you don't like women of a certain colour? Oh wait, that can't be racist because you're white yourself, right? :rolleyes:

It's quite normal to be attracted to certain races only. Racism would imply that I think there's a difference between "races" - physical differences beyond skin color or mental differences as intelligence. I do not think that in any way. I'm just not into certain races.

I'm not white, I'm Arabic and I'm quite used to hear by my white friends that brown women aren't attractive, but I've never thought of them as racists. Some people just don't like certain races, and that has nothing to do with racism.

clairebear 01-14-2011 11:28 PM

Saying "{Insert race here} women aren't attractive" is racist. Why? Because you're saying they're unattractive because of their race (if you weren't implying that then you wouldn't bring their race into it at all.) Imagine if I went around saying I don't like black men because they're all unattractive. What would people think?

Some people just don't like certain races, and that has nothing to do with racism. - Funniest thing I've read all day.

MMM 01-15-2011 12:43 AM

In Sitron's defense, he didn't say "White women are not attractive". He said "I am not attracted to white women."

There is a difference.

clairebear 01-15-2011 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 846604)
In Sitron's defense, he didn't say "White women are not attractive". He said "I am not attracted to white women."

There is a difference.

At the end of the day he's still being racist by basing whether he's attracted to someone on their race. Pretty ridiculous really but I know there's plenty of men and women with his mindset.

RealJames 01-15-2011 01:21 AM

I don't think paying for sex is cool.

I have some reservations about people who travel for sex, paid or unpaid.

But

Sitron may well be racist, but saying you prefer a nationality or skin color to me is no different than saying you prefer a certain hair or eye color, or height. We don't have to like all the flavors of ice cream the same. Women certainly don't ;). And especially if it's not for a relationship but just casual sex.

Brass 01-15-2011 01:35 AM

For all you guys asking about "why in the world would someone pay for sex" or you think it's immoral, well to each their own.

I don't really understand what the issue/problem is though. It's not like I'm trying to have sex with underage girls, or girls forced to work against their will (that I know of). If a girl (willfully) wants to have sex in exchange for money, I don't understand what the moral objection is. She is providing a service for a fee, just like how ever other business is run. No different.

And yes, of course I could hit up the clubs and get free sex and I plan to do just that while I am there. I don't plan to go to the hostess clubs and massage parlor out of desperation, I get sex all the time and have a girlfriend at home. I'm just doing for entertainment. Lots of guys go to strip clubs while they have gfs/wifes at home, whats the difference? This just takes it one step further.

And as far as the "no penetration" rule in Japan. I am perfectly fine with that too. Although it seems from this thread that rule isn't even followed.

JohnBraden 01-15-2011 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Brass (Post 846620)
I get sex all the time and have a girlfriend at home. I'm just doing for entertainment. Lots of guys go to strip clubs while they have gfs/wifes at home, whats the difference? This just takes it one step further.

Glad I'm not your g/f.... I guess she doesn't know about this site or she wouldn't be your g/f for much longer....

RealJames 01-15-2011 03:01 AM

The beauty of the internet, so big, and yet so small.

I don't know of many gf's that are ok with what you're doing Brass but if yours is then ... enjoy it while it lasts! :P

Brass 01-15-2011 03:07 AM

Don't worry, I plan on telling her what I'm going to do.

JohnBraden 01-15-2011 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Brass (Post 846636)
Don't worry, I plan on telling her what I'm going to do.

Good luck with that....

Brass 01-15-2011 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnBraden (Post 846639)
Good luck with that....

I already know she'll probably (95%) break up with me.

termogard 01-15-2011 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sitron (Post 846555)
I'm just not attractive enough for women.

In your native Norway, right? No problem. You really need to travel more around the Globe.
If you aren't a Hollywood star, take away all silly talks concerning to physical attractiveness.

Brass 01-17-2011 01:24 AM

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dogsbody70 01-17-2011 10:01 AM

We all know there is a sex industry-------As someone somewhere here stated better to pay for sex than rape some poor woman.


Maybe its the way nature has made us.

we all know that thousands of men pay for sex.


How many of wives or girl friends can know that her husband or partner is out there getting sex that he is paying for.


Ipersonally think its very belittling to women to be used in this way--How many actually Want to have sex with countless strangers? There has to be reasons and isn't finance one of those reasons.


the pimps they work for? We know about the way so many women are lured to a country-- here in UK even-- thinking they weill get real work then find themselves locked up for years forced to allow their bodies to be abused by countless numbers of Men.


If women get into drugs its a way of paying for it. I feel really sorry for them.


those comfort women for the Japanese troops. That must happen in every country where there has been war.


Raping of captured women.

hasn't Japan got its Love Hotels? Maybe they make sense.

In Africa they say that the spread of AIds is often because the men use prostitutes pick up the disease and spread it to their wives and so to their children.


etc etc etc.

MMM 01-17-2011 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dogsbody70 (Post 846963)
We all know there is a sex industry-------As someone somewhere here stated better to pay for sex than rape some poor woman.


Maybe its the way nature has made us.

we all know that thousands of men pay for sex.


How many of wives or girl friends can know that her husband or partner is out there getting sex that he is paying for.


Ipersonally think its very belittling to women to be used in this way--How many actually Want to have sex with countless strangers? There has to be reasons and isn't finance one of those reasons.


the pimps they work for? We know about the way so many women are lured to a country-- here in UK even-- thinking they weill get real work then find themselves locked up for years forced to allow their bodies to be abused by countless numbers of Men.


If women get into drugs its a way of paying for it. I feel really sorry for them.


those comfort women for the Japanese troops. That must happen in every country where there has been war.


Raping of captured women.

hasn't Japan got its Love Hotels? Maybe they make sense.

In Africa they say that the spread of AIds is often because the men use prostitutes pick up the disease and spread it to their wives and so to their children.


etc etc etc.

Let's tone it down and focus it a little.

I understand all that you are saying dogsbody70. I am not an expert on prostitution in Japan, but I do have a few comments.

First of all, Love Hotels are hotels. They exist to fulfill the need of short-term private time. They do not employ pimps or prostitutes.

Drugs are not the norm and are not easily accessible in Japan. One would have to make a concentrated effort to enter the tiny drug culture in Japan.

princessmarisa 01-17-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sitron (Post 846539)
I'll tell you why I want to do that:

4) I'm going to Tokyo - not for the prostitution, but while I'm there why not try it? I love Asian women, and paying for sex is a lot cheaper there than here.

Looked into how much things in Tokyo cost and the exchange rate recently?

You might be surprised, as we have said it is pretty hard to find an Asian prostitue who will sleep with a gaijin, and if we are tlaking going to bars paying for drinks/meals and then "getting it for free" I think the drinks in Japan are massivly expensive as is the food in date type places.

Also factor in your cost of travel, and yeah I'd say cheap is far from what you will be getting.

dogsbody70 01-17-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 846967)
Let's tone it down and focus it a little.

I understand all that you are saying dogsbody70. I am not an expert on prostitution in Japan, but I do have a few comments.

First of all, Love Hotels are hotels. They exist to fulfill the need of short-term private time. They do not employ pimps or prostitutes.

Drugs are not the norm and are not easily accessible in Japan. One would have to make a concentrated effort to enter the tiny drug culture in Japan.

thanks for your information.Of course I am not just talking about Japan am I.

Interesting to know about the love hotels. so that is for consenting couples?

maybe even partners who go there to have a chance to relax and not worry about interfering children etc.
Or so I heard somewhere.

are there prostitutes on the streets inJapan?


I wonder how many women choose to have sex with many men. are they not earning money? If there was a more lucrative way to earn money would they not wish to try something better.

still I am still in the dark ages no doubt but I do wonder about Morals.

Columbine 01-17-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dogsbody70 (Post 847010)
thanks for your information.Of course I am not just talking about Japan am I.

Interesting to know about the love hotels. so that is for consenting couples?

Love-ho's are pretty much all above board. Basically there's a vast number of people who say, live with their parents, share rooms with siblings/flat mates or live in tiny apartments with poor sound proofing, so late night endeavors can cause upset with your neighbors. Love hotels provide some privacy and basically provide somewhere for young couples to ~go~ to spend some time together. Many also have automated check-ins and offer hourly rates making them a better deal than a traditional hotel. I hear (but am not certain) that love hotels are more accommodating to same-sex couples as well, again compared to the usual sort. Some people just use them because they are so much more convenient and cheaper, without any romantic motive at all!

godwine 01-17-2011 05:20 PM

Maybe people should just stop viewing Oriental girls (Japanese especially) as a sexual object....

clairebear 01-17-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 847018)
Maybe people should just stop viewing Oriental girls (Japanese especially) as a sexual object....

That'll be the day.

Brass 01-17-2011 07:48 PM

I still don't know why so many make a big deal about paying for sex. Men have been paying for sex well before any kind of currency even existed. It has always existed and will always exist no matter what the laws.

RobinMask 01-17-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brass (Post 847025)
I still don't know why so many make a big deal about paying for sex. Men have been paying for sex well before any kind of currency even existed. It has always existed and will always exist no matter what the laws.

I wasn't aware 'it's always happened' was a legitimate reason/excuse. Murder has occured, well before any of the courts existed, by your logic then murder should be okay too . . . it's practically a tradition, just like prostitution.

Although, I'm getting off-topic, morals aren't part of the original topic of this thread.

MMM 01-17-2011 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dogsbody70 (Post 847010)
thanks for your information.Of course I am not just talking about Japan am I.

Interesting to know about the love hotels. so that is for consenting couples?

maybe even partners who go there to have a chance to relax and not worry about interfering children etc.
Or so I heard somewhere.

are there prostitutes on the streets inJapan?


I wonder how many women choose to have sex with many men. are they not earning money? If there was a more lucrative way to earn money would they not wish to try something better.

still I am still in the dark ages no doubt but I do wonder about Morals.

Columbine basically answered my question, but yes, love hotels are for consenting couples, often young couples who still live with their parents and have no other chance for private time together.

I have seen prostitutes in Japan maybe once or twice. In busier areas often hostesses will "proposition" drunk men to come to their bar, and people who aren't in the know mistake these women for prostitutes, but it is not the same.


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