You'd have to catch it right in the act, and even then the parties involved could say it was just .... 素股
You're right that it's very often full service, though on paper it's not usually advertised that way.
Many of the デリヘル flyers I get say no penetration but have pics of blatant sex. Kind of a massive read-between-the-lines lol.

That's true, theoretically speaking.

However, soaplands are able to get around that regulation using some creative techniques. While I'm sure that many 風俗 workers will accept a bribe for intercourse, it's generally accepted that soaplands include that in their fee.

Pimps? Are you talking about the young guys in the black suits?

I'm sure the police are aware of what's happening but there's either a loophole or it's just too much of a hassle.

For example, if a client calls a Delivery health and has a girl come to his house, I doubt that the police can enter his home on the suspicion that penetration is involved.

Or take a place like Tobita Shinchi in Osaka. One of the biggest red light districts in Kansai where there are around 200 prostitutes sitting in front of their tea houses dressed in various attire. You can walk up to any of them and ask them what's included and they'll tell you straight up that, "ここは最後まで出来ます".

And yet there's a Koban located just a hundred meters away. :confused:

Does this count even if you are going alone to a club?

Rugs are oriental. People are Asian.

Hostess bars are not places to look for sex. There are no "champagne rooms" in the back where you can expect sexual relations. Everything happens in the open, and that is flirtatious conversation with essentially no chance of sexual activity. Girls that have sex with their customers lose their jobs, because the customers stop coming back... they move onto the next one.

These are considered to be in a completely different category as pink salons, massage parlors, or soaplands, where the point is sexual activity (though legally not "all the way".) There is nothing to be ashamed of by going to hostess bars, and I often went with colleagues and friends, both male and female. Does that clear it up a little?

I have been in that district, too, and I think it is a bit of a special case, as I heard it has some kind of historical designation, as it has existed as is for so many hundreds of years.

Though, I agree, it would be hard to enforce the "no penetration" law.

Yeah I think we are still misunderstanding each other a little though, when we were essentially saying the same thing. By massage I don't mean anything sexual, just like a private booth where you might get a fully clothed backrub or shoulder rub in a light flirty way? Does even this level of contact not happen in some hostess bars?

The second category you are talking about are what I was trying to call "the sort of hostess bars that employ SE Asians and are in shadier districts" I just didn't know the terminology, so sorry if I confused by labelling them as a type of hostess bar, I always saw them as very different places.


For anyone else interested in learning more, such as the OPs:

I saw a really interesting documentary on male host bars once:
THE GREAT HAPPINESS SPACE

Stratosphere girl Stratosphere Girl (2004) - IMDb is fictional but touches on some aspects of hostessing too.

There may be some physical contact in a hostess bar, but everything happens in the open. Hostesses are not masseuses. A brief shoulder rub or might happen, but in many hostess clubs the girls will never come out from behind the counter, so physical contact would practically be impossible. The mama regulates where the girls go, who they talk to, and whether or not they can sit down with them.

I think you are talking about two different things here, but it is easy to mix up, as there is some gray zone, I think. I have been to a Filipino hostess club before, and they basically cater to Filipino clients... Filipino men living in Japan... They weren't prostitutes, but I heard that some of them dabbled on the side. On the other hand, there are brothels (I understand) where you can find Russian women or Chinese women or women from other countries nearby less off than Japan. My sense is these places do not discriminate against foreigners.

You mean doing actual work instead of giving directions and checking bike registrations? It's honestly not like they've got anything better to do.