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Demitrichan 02-25-2011 08:52 PM

A lot of adults forget what its like to be a teen
A lot of people don't remember how much they craved freedom
To me it sounds like OP, just needs to get out.
I think every kid at some point has a think they do as a form of rebellion.
As for this one person they rely on. Some people aren't as strong as others
and for all we know this one person could be the one thing they have to take the
Pressure from life away. People depend on each other its human nature
We are social creature. I've seen people be alone and rely on themselves for to long
and the only thing it serves to do is make them cynical.

I would ask everyone that posts in this thread to look at both side of the story.
In all honesty this sounds like a classic case of a parent scared to make mistakes so they don't trust their kid. And the kid doesn't know what to do and feels trapped. Adults aren't always right an neither are kids.

Instead of telling OP they are wrong. How about making unbias suggestions.

Also don't assume that hust because someone is young they know nothing of the world.
Its insulting to any young person teen or not.

MMM 02-25-2011 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tokusatsufan (Post 852820)
And judging people on whether they pay the bills or not is a risky business. Your pets don't pay the bills,are you going to kick them out?

This might be the best post I have read all day.

I have never seen a dog scream "I hate you" and slam his bedroom door, or a can complain that life isn't fair because she can't drive.

tokusatsufan 02-25-2011 09:35 PM

Quite.

I was quite different to other kids at school in that I was took out of my form room for what must have been a year to do some dispraxia thing then expected to re-integrate,and then half the Drama class were irritating and it just all went downhill towards the end. When everyone else finished their GCSEs I had to resit two but I had to sit through this assembly that was about everyone else finishing their GCSEs. And then afterwards everyone was having loads of fun. I didn't even do well in my GCSEs. I wasn't in a good mood when I did my GCSEs. I just wanted them to end. And then some middle-aged man says that they are dumbing down. Admittedly going and doing media was maybe a bit stupid. There should never be any characters like Kevin the Teenager. I don't recall ever "having a strop". I was getting genuinely frustrated. It wasn't cheap.

America actually seems much freer compared to ours and the Japanese education system.

MMM 02-25-2011 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Demitrichan (Post 852823)
A lot of adults forget what its like to be a teen
A lot of people don't remember how much they craved freedom

Really?
I think a lot of teens THINK adults forget what it's like to be a teen, but I certainly haven't forgotten. My parents still remember their teen years clearly.

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Originally Posted by Demitrichan (Post 852823)
Also don't assume that hust because someone is young they know nothing of the world.
Its insulting to any young person teen or not.

Why is it "insulting" to suggest a teenager is less experienced an adult? Did anyone say here teenagers know nothing?

Demitrichan 02-25-2011 09:50 PM

MMM you seem to take things personally and its really annoying >.>
Please don't assume just because I post it targets you in anyway shape or form.
Just because your parents remember their teen years doesn't mean they remember how they felt at every twist and turn.
Also as I said "A lot of parents don't remember" you might want to take that as a general term. Not just you.
Not to say you haven't had good points its just annoying when people take "In general" statements personally.

keikan0407 02-26-2011 12:05 AM

Hi,
Please think again. your parents actually have no freedom as you ask for yourself. They have to face many things in daily life, in order to give you a peaceful and safe life at school. It may be like a prison to you, but that's the best way they think to make you happy.
If you want more freedom, do something to help them reduce their daily pressure and talk about your issue directly to them. They will understand.
Another way is to ask them send you off to somewhere far away from home for studying. You will be free for a while, and start understanding why your parents took their eyes on you all the times.

Be strong, one day you will be the one able to protect your parent.

siokan 02-26-2011 12:18 AM

Write what is inconvenient concretely.
Whether it is "freedom" or "Selfishness" is judged. ;)

MMM 02-26-2011 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Demitrichan (Post 852838)
MMM you seem to take things personally and its really annoying >.>

What did I take personally? This is a discussion on a forum. I don't know what you are talking about.

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Originally Posted by Demitrichan (Post 852838)
Please don't assume just because I post it targets you in anyway shape or form.

I couldn't have been less offended by anything you said.

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Originally Posted by Demitrichan (Post 852838)
Just because your parents remember their teen years doesn't mean they remember how they felt at every twist and turn.

They may not remember every twist and turn, but we talk about things they did and how they were treated by there own parents. It seems they remember the important stuff.

I haven't been a teenager in a long time, but I remember just about everything... good times and bad. Especially strong feelings when I felt my parents were out to get me or didn't understand me. Now I can look back at those strong emotional times and kind of laugh.

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Originally Posted by Demitrichan (Post 852838)
Also as I said "A lot of parents don't remember" you might want to take that as a general term. Not just you.
Not to say you haven't had good points its just annoying when people take "In general" statements personally.

What evidence do you have to the fact that "a lot of parents don't remember." I think teens think that because parents don't act in a situation like that teen would at that time, they must not remember what it is like to be a teen. That's the only satisfying explanation, as the alternative is the parents DO remember what it is like to be a teen, but know better with age and experience.

Demitrichan 02-26-2011 12:48 AM

What evidence do you have that A lot of them take in to account how it felt even if they do? :)

duo797 02-26-2011 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Demitrichan (Post 852851)
What evidence do you have that A lot of them take in to account how it felt even if they do? :)

What evidence do you have that they don't other than what appears to be your own anecdotal evidence?


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