Courage of the Fukushima 50. True Heroes.
 

If Japan staves off Nuclear disaster. They owe it to these guys.

Japan tsunami: Fukushima Fifty 'on suicide mission' to battle nuclear meltdown | Mail Online

you are so right ronin.totally selfless. surely this is a real warning to the rest of the world about the dangers of nuclear energy.




why is food not getting through to so many. i see reporters in refuge centres saying that food is running out yet the reporters get there.

surely there should be ways todistribute urgent items especially water.

there are 2200 refugee centers on 500km radius area, and there are 3ook of them. that is why help is slow. lack of fule doesnt help either.

As to the workers at the plant. As much as I appreciate what they are doing I must say that they would not have had to do it if it was not for retarded superiors, TEPCO and other ^$%&$%£ that, as usual, messed up big time. On the other hand, when i was leaving Chiba on Tuesday there were people in my company ging to work desipite the approaching cloud (it was when winds have shifted south for 15h or so). For me, its a retarded behaviour and has much to to with mindless dedication to duty.
In case of the plant workers it's different. Those guys are heroes (yet at the same time victims of stupidity and recklessness of other people). Sadly, i doubt any lesson will be learned, and this disaster will only shorten upcoming economical fall of Japan.

Best of Japanese.
 

If mentioned article based on information of Japanese TV........

Real Heroes. I simply cannot find words to express feelings.... God bless THEM !

They are giants among mere men.

These men are really heroes. I sadly laugh when I think that there are true heroes, like these workers, and there are true evils, like Gheddafi in Libia that kill his nation...

Gododaff
 

What current Libyan internal affairs, various Geddafs-Kaddafs have to do with desperate and heroic attempts of brave Japanese workers and technicians to hold a situation at Fukushima Dai-ichi NPP under control? Please, don't put various trash from euronews into this particular thread.

I don't know what to say, thanks a lot and god bless them !

They are not victims of stupidity at all. They are heroes in the true sense. People who are prepared to put themselves in potentially life threatening situations to save the lives of others. With full knowledge of the risks they have taken on the responsibility to avert a bigger disaster than has already happened. Nothing can be said that could lessen the sacrifice they are making and it would be inappropriate to suggest otherwise.

Please explain exactly how you believe TEPCO have messed up big time. I personally believe they have done well thus far considering the circumstances. This was a totally unprecendented event. The company in charge I think has little if anything to do with the current situation. All systems worked as they were supposed to except for an unprecented earthquake and tsunami which messed things up big time. I don't think blame can be layed purely on the company and I certainly don't think it will. Thankfully Japan doesn't play the blame games that happen so often in the west.

if Japan had military they could do what russians did.
2 minutes on the roof of Chernobyl and you get 2 years off from army. had no shortage of volunteers.

i just looked up the article i had about Chernobyl. a survivor who was telling how graphite that could be put out by water was thrown away by hands. water only went for the core.

looks like history is bound to repeat itself. Good luck guys, save everyone's Japan so i am not going to spend 3 years of learning japanese for nothing. :cool:

No matter what happens, they will be remembered forever.

I hope everything does go as planned.

BBC Published something similar.

BBC News - Japan hails the heroic 'Fukushima 50'

Ganbare,Fukushima 50. They really are saving the world.

I don't believe it will happen again. You'll learn Japanese for something ;D! I don't think it's the end of the world yet. It's too early for 2012 even for Japan.

I have faith that the Japanese people will pull through, even in hard times. It's just the way they work!

Anyways... I almost cried when I read this. I really can't imagine myself doing this, I really admire them. Even more so than the "Tank" man.

military
 

Actually, Japan has well-developed armed forces called SDF.

If they build a shrine to honor them, I will go and pay my respects.... Nothing short of altruism for these fine gentlemen....

It might be that they are both. Heroes AND victims of stupidity.

Wikileaks revealed a cable in which the Americans warned the Japanese that there were serious concerns about the ability of the Fukushima plant to survive the a serious quake. This cable has come to light since this disaster.

(On another point.. remember all the people complaining about Wikileaks and the mundane information it released? turns out some of it might not be so mundane after all. The original uprising in Tunisia is said to be caused partly by Wikileaks revelations... but anyway I digress.)

I know nothing of this TEPCO company... but if the concerns warranted by the USA were valid.. then some people have a lot of explaining to do.

Got any link to the exact wording of this supposed warning? I've kind of lost trust in anything being reported by western media recently.

warning
 

Excellent. I am almost speechless. The reactors of Fukushima Dai-ichi were mostly designed by US engineers of General Electric.
So what did Americans want to hear from japanese side by sending that "warning"? Perhaps, japanese should close and scrap Fukushima Dai-ichi NPP prior to any earthquake ASAP?

I understand from a psychological standpoint how you might be afraid. But the fact is scientifically speaking, people in Chiba, Tokyo etc have nothing to fear from radiation at this point. My decision not to freak out like some people and stay in Japan, is based on the exact opposite of any sort of mindlessness. To me the real mindlessness going on is the number of people who have really bought into the media's shameless fearmongering. All the media has done is taken focus away from Japan's bigger problem (at this point).. hundreds of thousands of homeless, cold, hungry people.

reactors
 

Despite various mechanisms of explosions in Chernobyl Nuclear Power Station (upper photo) and in Fukushima Dai-ichi NPP (below), after explosions damaged reactors looks out quite similar, constantly releasing radioactive vapor in atmosphere.

Japan syndrome shows why we need WikiLeaks | The Australian

Not an exact wording though.

it is not about well developed. it is about mandatory. since CCCR army was mandatory and rather horrible place to be people chose to spend 2 minutes next to nuclear reactor core on a meltdown instead of serving 2 years.

So have they saved the plant?

Considering that the reactors actually survived the earthquake mostly intact I can't really see the validity of this little leak. Doubt they warned of a 10m tsunami ;)

mandatory
 

Yes, they chose rooftop of the edge of meltdown instead of two years of service.
Check this video more attentively, please. They had even less time than two minutes and moved enough fast in suits armoured by lead shields.

Eh? The two are related obviously.

In this case, yes, they are. But I don't recall a tsunami warning in the Great Hanshin earthquake. I've gone through numerous earthquakes in the Tohoku region and most had no tsunami warning and those that did were less than 50cm....

This one was the equivalent of The Perfect Storm....

Earthquake with an epicenter in the ocean is almost always going to be followed by a tsunami warning dude.

No they are not obviously related at all. Not all earthquakes here are just off the coast and cause massive tsunamis that wipe out whole towns. Can you actually recall the last time that occurred in Japan? Most earthquakes here don't do that at all. Many occur inland with no effect on the ocean or sea at all. Many that occur out in the ocean also do not cause tsunamis. Was there a massive tsunami in the Christchurch earthquake? So a report from years ago about Japan reactors and their ability to withstand a high magnitude earthquake may not have made any mention at all of the potential risks of tsunamis. The reactors themselves operated exactly as designed and withstood the earthquake. An earthquake far greater than I believe the warning was about. So Japan just proved that these reactors can actually survive earthquakes of far greater magnitude than they were designed for. That's good news and a testament to their construction. The design didn't take into account a wave of that height though and that is something that I doubt any reactor in the world regardless of if they are near major earthquake zones or not would have design features to withstand.
So I disagree with the assertions of The Australian (as I usually do, it being a mouthpiece for the right side of politics in Australia ;) ).

Or it may have. Which is quite conceivable since the 2 phenomena are related.

Furthermore inland EQs don't usually have tsunami warnings.

Not to mention that the tsunami in SE Asia was caused by an EQ. That wasn't too long ago.

I admire people who know that nothing good they will not wait, but they also know their duty to their country. Real heroes.
And as we have in Russia? Our people say in such cases: "Everything will be fine, no danger"- and with these words are sent to certain death ...

We are have the following message in our media:

"19.03.2011, 06:25 pm, german local time: After estimate of the IAEA is the entrance of the worst case for every day longer always unlikely"

If this are right that would be epic! =)

The 50 heros are the best!!!!

our people
 

What are you talking about?

I think they are actually 180 total they go in 50 man shifts. Yes they are herioc in their efforts knowing what is probable. Kinda like the 300 Spartans in a way.

Spartans
 

Soviet authorities in Chernobyl made a rotation of rescuers. I posted a link to british documentary where a group of volunteers was shown. Robots did not work any long time at rooftor of damaged reactor because their electronic blocks of remote control failed due to very high level of ionizing radiation. So authorities picked up humans. Each volunteer wore gas mask, rubber suit with protective shields made of lead. They had a minute to get rooftop from a nearby service compartment, grab radioactive pieces of fuel or graphite, drop them into broken reactor and run away...After them, fresh group run onto rooftop....

Are those guys at Fukushima have a similar sort of rotation scheme, I wonder?

Yes.

They rotate in groups of four if I remember correctly.

rotation
 

Thank you for info, Ronin !:vsign:

No problemo :vsign:

I think the point you are missing is that this quake was far larger than even any they were possibly warning about. It was the largest earthquake in recorded history in Japan. And still the reactors survived the quake. Amazing really. I don't think you would find any structure in the world is built to withstand a quake larger than anything ever recorded in the history of that country. This was totally unprecedented. Many areas along that coast have had previous tsunamis and had built large walls to prevent one entering their towns. These were specifically built to save lives and were not part of some bungling corporation trying to save money. They built walls to withstand the largest waves they ever expected. Problem was that no one ever expected a wave of this size. And that means no one. Not the Americans or anyone else. At least the Americans can rest easier now knowing that the reactors can obviously handle the larger sized quakes that they warned about. No problems there.

Not really. It was the most powerful quake in Japan's history but it's epicentre was miles off the coast of Japan. While it was a magnitude 9 quake, the actual force in many centres of Japan were about half that of the quake in Christchurch. (Christchurch was said to be 2.2G's of force while the recorded G's in Tokyo were said to be 0.82 if I remember correctly.)

All the damage in Japan was done by tsunami, very little was caused by the quake itself.

Furthermore, while the backup generators of the Fukushima plant were taken out by the tsunami, it was the initial quake that stopped the cooling system altogether.