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BC is a great place! If you're in north Vancouver it's a short drive to Whistler for you and also across the river to downtown big city for your wife ;) just a thought |
So a lot of caucasians are weeaboos and then what about asians trying to be white ? Come on give it a break, let the people who think they'll find nirvana in Japan give it a try, maybe they'll be dissapointed, maybe not, who cares ? You can never change your race or skin color, unless you're the new Michael Jackson, so be happy with it. I too wished I was born in Canada, but well I was born in this stupid country of mine, so I'll just have to live with that. Japan is like any other country, bad things, good things and to most people it's like a totally different world. I also think it's totally different, but then again The Arabian Emigrates, Australia, Alaska, Greenland, ... is totally different from my country too. Ah well this will probably not be helping, but it's 9:48 AM, I'm waiting for class to begin and I'm half asleep :o
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See,I think we go on message boards to wind down,to have fun,whereas some other people are a bit autistic and take the term "discussion forum" far too literally. They just argue with everything you say and then if you try and stop them ripping into someone they go "WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION!" They're obsessed with discussions,these people. |
actually this is a discussion forum isn't it?
all ages and generations. if ever i went to japan i would like to see those ice sculptures in hokkaido i believe. vist shrines, see the countryside. I am not fond of large crowded cities at all. have lessons in calligraphy, meet a few locals. hopefully have a friend to guide me--visit japanese gardens etc. experience cherry blossom time. how boring am I. oh yes, and visit hot springs. |
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Oh my goodddd what a weeaboo that guy is :rolleyes: I just happen to be born here dude.. it doesn't mean I am that way or that I need to spend my entire life here, not in the 21st century!!!! Your prejudices is so wrong man! I told you what prejudices truly is. The close minded Western people I've met hundreds and hundreds of them all around Australia and NZ. It weren't just English guys, every Western guy did it and they thought they were something better, more valuable then these Asians.. This is a god damn Forum I get that.. people will always hate on such places, I get that too and I don't feel the need to justify myself infront of an audience I couldn't care less about. If you are happy with how you live your life then continue. Why change what makes you happy? I want to experience something better, even if for you better makes me a weaaboo..lol Stop please with all these terrible prejudices towards people you do know nothing about. Everybody is different on this planet earth and I feel that I do not belong to this group of people anymore. Repect other peoples opinions and also respect that people are different! Quote:
I couldn't care less if people will always call me a foreigner or something else..gaijin and so on.. who cares? As long as I can be with the people I love the most I will be happy. |
you may be disappointed to learn that people are really all the same everywhere...
there's a slight change in facade, but it's all the same once you get to know people of any culture... but if that small difference is what you mean then go for it, enjoy that life :) I just hope you don't expect people to behave differently based on their ethnicity, which is otherwise known as racism ;) |
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It's not a small difference James, it's another world up there. People behave, think and act in a different way too the one I was used to growing up. I learned that life would be more valuable if I somehow could spend it with these particular people. It even does make me a little racialist.. however from that one day I visted this Hostel and first experienced it myself, I do look down on the Western society, yes! I have learned to love a different kind of human and when you experience something like this first hand, it will change you forever and you can't let go anymore. I just can't let my life passing away without spending it with people who I love the most. Maybe I really do only have one life, so I need to at least try to fulfil my dreams in this lifetime right now, right here! |
You'll get backstabbed, walked on, lied to, treated badly, cheated on etc etc JUST as much in Japan as you will in any other country, I'm speaking from my experience living in Japan by the way, not some half formed idea in my mind.
The difference is in Japan you'll get taken advantage of with a smile and good service, while in western countries it'll be yelling and a headache. Westerners get fucked in Japan and then it takes them like 3 hours to realize it happened lol. I swear to you the people are the same, the assholes are equal in number, the good people are too, the frugal businessmen also, all of it, seriously. You're setting yourself up for a massive disappointment if you go to Japan expecting otherwise. edit: as long as you're only dealing with the facade, which is a lot heavier in Japan than in any western country I've visited, then yes it does seem like Japan is a far more civil place. see: http://www.japanforum.com/forum/japa...tml#post860478 ;) |
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I know that they are very different and this is what makes me feel attached to these lovely people. everywhere there are black sheeps and perhaps I was just lucky meeting the most lovely Asians you could ever met. Just luck? Impossible!!! Asians are that way and they might not scream at you or tell you that they don't like you right in your face or discriminate you like Western would do. They might built up a facade behind there face just to save there face. And this is where it all starts. This is an attribute which is not negative at all throughout my eyes. The way Western handle those situations are a lot more negative to me, but thats because I am different, thats the reason why I feel that I belong in this society and not here. I just happen to be born here, thats all! I won't ever be disapointed when I visit Japan or Korea cause I already know what I will experience. MAybe I am just compeltely ignorant in your mind, however I know what I experienced and I know what to expect. I do know that! |
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"What do you think you will find in Japan ?"
- > please note that I am really not a Japan specialist, I may write total BS but this is my point of view anyway Japan looks like the Ultimate challenge because of : - Strong economy - Hard langage - Isolation (as an island) - Social pressure So if you succeed in living there, then you earn the jackpot ! Nowadays, the World is...well...getting crazy in many ways, meanwhile Japan looks stable/strong/happy. In a way, to live in there may seem "protective" for a lot of people. Moreover, the japanese animation/manga/media are fun and this is the place where you can benefit from the best technology on Earth, so why should I waste my time in France (e.g.) ? Finally, some people willing to live in Japan might want to feel "unique". I mean an average Joe in London will be special in Tokyo, as he would look different Once again, I'm not a specialist, I'm just replying with my gross feelings :D |
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Get a grip. There's good and bad in every country and in reality, we're all the same. |
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Benefit from the best technology on earth? Well maybe in the big cities there is a fair amount of technology. For those of us who live in more rural Japan to be honest some places seem to me to have advanced little from what it was like in the west in about the 1950's. I have worked with many Japanese people over the years who had no idea of how to use an internet search engine like google!! Hardly anywhere takes credit cards. ATM's close on public holidays!! I mean really why do ATM's require to have days off as well??Maybe it's just because I'm up on inaka island but seriously Japan may make a lot of technology but it doesn't seem to me that many here use it all that much. Unless you think keitais are what technology is all about! Happy? Not sure about that one. I think there's just as many unhappy people in Japan as anywhere else. A large portion of the male population work in jobs where they work around 80 hours a week. It is expected they put the company ahead of family. This wouldn't make me overly happy I can tell you!! Where do you get your ideas about this country from? Anime and manga?? |
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I know how does work the japanese economy, I made several studies when I was working in a french Chamber of Commerce, it's a fragile balance, your post could not be more accurate Quote:
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In any case I will point out one thing you will be in a shock for... you think asians do not discriminate.. I guess you have never seen any "Japanese Only" signs..www.debito.org: THE ROGUE'S GALLERY: Photos of places which refuse non-Japanese in Japan.. now I do not particularly like this guy and think he is kind of a d-bag about what he does.. but this is a very comprehensive collection you might want to look at, and maybe revise your position a bit. Perhaps I misunderstood what you said earlier.. I thought by saying you wanted to be Asian.. that you wanted become a citizen of xxx asian country and assimilate into society. But if you want to just exist in Japanese society that is fine, you can do that, but make no mistake, you will not be able to assimilate, you will not be treated the same as everyone else. You understand this right? Because it sounds to me like you think that you will accomplish something more.. somehow find your perfect place in the world in Japan, even though everyone else will see you as out of place. |
for those with their dream--who Do venture to japan--do come back and let us know whether your hopes were fulfilled and why.
my japanese friend will never be really open and honest about her feelings. i never know what she really thinks, She was brought up in the group system both at school and at work. I wonder when one hears the honest truth from people who hide their true feelings. |
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I originally was rather interested in this thread, but it's amazing how something can descend into an argument so quickly . . . The last three or four pages seem so negative that it's rather depressing :P
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I like Japan so much that I don't want people coming here with false ideas and high expectations then going back home all disappointed and being like "it was ok I guess... " ;)
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I wouldn't fret. None of these kids will be able to make a life in Japan. They'll grow up and do whatever introverted kids do. If as many kids made it to Japan as they wanted, Japan wouldn't be as exclusive as it currently is.
When I first got to Japan I found out I was going to have to live with a bunch of other foreigners for a bit. I wasn't upset that I had to live with other foreigners; I was just afraid they'd all be weeaboos. Truthfully, only about 10 percent of them were. The rest of us were shocked and left scratching our heads, because all of us had imagined the same thing before coming to Japan. Then we finally realized, the reason why none of us were weeaboos is because we don't live in fantasy land and actually got our sh!t together to be able to move to Japan. |
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Some of us who've lived in Japan for many years just try and bring a little reality into the weeaboo world. Hell I didn't even know such people existed until coming onto this forum! It's not being negative or anti-Japan it's just trying to let people know what it's really like here. If this bursts some peoples little bubble about the perfect little world they've created in their minds well maybe that's not such a bad thing. Dreams are nice but it's better to know the reality don't you think? |
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The topic was quite postive, and sure, not everyone is realistic and not everyone will acheive their dreams, but surely it's possible to be more constructive in criticism than what some people have done? Even if one or two deserve such harsh comments, it detracts from the overall topic and ends up rather off-topic. One or two people kept on-topic, but their comemnts seemed completely wiped out by the 'no, you're a weeaboo'. In that respect it is kind of a bad thing to be so negative. |
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Well I think that most "Weeaboos" are just children, probably not older than 16 who can still fantasize about all kinds of things. I see this in my religion too, I'm a witch and most teens who are interested in witchcraft think that you can really use spells and the most common question I get is how to make someone in love with you... typical childish thoughts and most people grow out of them. If they don't then they just have to learn it the hard way, because it won't make any difference if you tell them they are living in a fantasy... Just have to be a bit realistic. |
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umm not really. its good to hear what others expect--.
not jesting at all. very curious. for many it must be a pipe dream and fantasy but sorting out reality from fantasy? one hopes that there would be commonsense--especially since the disaster. |
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It wasn't too long ago when I replied to a thread on this forum, an adult martial artist who want to go to Japan to train for a year. Sounds good? Until he said he want to find the "real master" that live and train deep in the mountain woods.... This person, sound sane and all, and is an adult.... I have a Friend (Irish dude), my age - mid 30s, who once told me that he want to visit Japan with me because "Japan seems so cool with its robot and sh!t", up to this day, we still make fun of him for that comment, and he admitted he wasn't joking, he seriously thought that Japan has Gundam size robot that does "crap" |
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