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nihonguchi 06-24-2011 04:45 AM

about Japanese society
 
Hi everyone, I'm nihonguchi from Yokohama, Japan.
When I was in the States, I learned so many things which were very different from Japanese society. Then, I am curious if non-japanese people usually feel something strange or interesting about japan.
"Yoroshiku onegaishimasu" = I look forward to your ideas.
Thank you.

RealJames 06-24-2011 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nihonguchi (Post 869613)
Hi everyone, I'm nihonguchi from Yokohama, Japan.
When I was in the States, I learned so many things which were very different from Japanese society. Then, I am curious if non-japanese people usually feel something strange or interesting about japan.
"Yoroshiku onegaishimasu" = I look forward to your ideas.
Thank you.

I felt very many strange things entering Japan :)

What was strange for you in the States?

nihonguchi 06-24-2011 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 869614)
I felt very many strange things entering Japan :)

What was strange for you in the States?

Thanks for your reply:)
What were strange things which you had experienced in Japan?

When I first use the bathroom, the door was very different, because there was no bottom half. Also, the States' McDonald's drinks are free to refill and Seven-Eleven as well. That's actually great, but it was unusual for me. I loved it.

RealJames 06-24-2011 06:17 AM

I took these from a post I made long ago, here are some of the things that surprised me!
  • Look right first before crossing the street, not left, or the back of your head will get smacked by a bus
  • When walking down the street and someones walking the opposite direction to you, go to the left of them, not the right, generally.
  • J-walking is surprisingly uncommon, people will wait for the walk signal even if the road is absolutely empty. (Due to insurance reasons it would seem)
  • Eating in public is rude
  • While on the train or subway, be quiet, I put my cellphone on vibrate, people generally either don't talk to each other or whisper inaudibly
  • While on the subway, it's normal for it to be so packed that people will be shoulder-to-shoulder with you.
  • There are specific cars on the train and subway that are women-only for certain times of the day, it's marked in english on the ground and walls near them.
  • When you pay for things at the store, you don't hand the cashier the money directly, there's this tray somewhere on the counter or near the till that you put your money in, they then take it from there, they hand you back the coin first, then the bills with the receipt
  • Every time you enter and leave a store all the employees will utter some incomprehensible phrase that basically means welcome to the store, but they say it thousands of times a week so it bears no similarity to it's proper pronunciation. and you don't have to acknowledge it, no one does.
  • Tips and tax are included in absolutely everything everywhere, even at the grocery store when things cost some uneven amount of yen, like 387y, it's included. the exception seems to be taxi drivers, tipping them isn't strange, but it's also not rude if you don't.
  • Speaking of taxi's, don't touch the doors, they open and close for you, automatically
  • Taxi's have a gps nav thing on the middle of the dash, and it shows the path the cabbi takes to your destination, so you can see he isn't taking some retarded obscure loopy path to screw you over, which is nice. Cabbi's are very well dressed, and wear gloves, and will help you load and unload luggage into/from the trunk.
  • People smoke everywhere here, in restaurants too, you're in a different culture, don't judge people for it, our culture has much worse habits.
  • Don't be shocked if a man takes the last seat and lets his girlfriend/wife stand beside him
  • Make sure you don't try to stay at the wrong kind of hotel.
  • For men, not shaving is rude, having stubble is like, being dirty, but if you're a foreigner, and not wearing a suit, it's fine, you're obviously a tourist
  • Inside a restaurant, they will either give you a plastic wrapped moist towel, or a waiter will come by and hold one out for you to take from them, in which case it'll be hot/warm, use this to clean your hands, keep it near for while you're eating and after, unless it's a nicer restaurant, it's the only one you'll get.
  • Don't stick your chopsticks in your rice, it bares too much resemblance to a custom meant for honouring the dead
  • Don't point with chopsticks
  • It is virtually impossible to be vegetarian here, and if you don't know what you're ordering, it could be something you'd never consider eating. Keep an open mind.
  • There are virtually no garbages anywhere, it's incredible how clean the places is considering there's almost no place for you to dispose of anything, the only places I've seen them are at the train station or outside the convenient stores, but considering you never ever eat in public, it's not so often you have something you want to throw out.
  • Japan has somehow not entered the world of 24hrs, few stores are open 24hrs, and the last train/subway is between midnight and 1am, first one around 5 am (in Osaka, I don't remember Tokyo).
  • If you're in a very urban area at a later time in the evening, especially on the weekends, it's not uncommon to come across a very very drunk (normally respectable) business man, and this man will more than likely be doing something incredibly obscene... this is a very high stress society, and alcohol has been associated with relaxation, a lot
  • Small-talk is not very common, there is no such thing as an "awkward silence" with a stranger.
  • People in Japan do not hug each other, they'll seriously be like what the hell just happened, if you hug them.
  • Japanese people are generally timid and modest.
  • Japanese people are generally incredibly kind to foreigners, they will usually not help unless it's asked for though, as much as they may want to do so.
  • It can also be easy to take advantage of this boundless kindness, they will help you as much as you ask them too and will not say no, try to not overstep the boundary of common courtesy.
  • It's common that streets will have rather large storm drains along the side which may be uncovers, watch your step!

dogsbody70 06-24-2011 07:46 AM

thats interesting James. Re HUGS-- Yes indeed, certainly my friend disliked displays of affection by HUGS.

although there have been many times when she did actually want a hug from me but always said that "we Japanese do not hug"-- but commented how much the spanish students in her school were very demonstrative and were always hugging one another. When I showed her this video she showed surprise but commented that it was not japanese people who joined in with the hugs.

YouTube - ‪FREE HUGS in JAPAN(Tokyo) part1 フリーハグ‬‏

MMM 06-24-2011 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dogsbody70 (Post 869638)
thats interesting James. Re HUGS-- Yes indeed, certainly my friend disliked displays of affection by HUGS.

although there have been many times when she did actually want a hug from me but always said that "we Japanese do not hug"-- but commented how much the spanish students in her school were very demonstrative and were always hugging one another. When I showed her this video she showed surprise but commented that it was not japanese people who joined in with the hugs.

YouTube - ‪FREE HUGS in JAPAN(Tokyo) part1 フリーハグ‬‏

How do you know she wanted a hug from you?

dogsbody70 06-24-2011 07:55 AM

she came to me putting her head onto My shoulder.

I might add that she was often extremely childlike.

RealJames 06-24-2011 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by nihonguchi (Post 869617)
Thanks for your reply:)
What were strange things which you had experienced in Japan?

When I first use the bathroom, the door was very different, because there was no bottom half. Also, the States' McDonald's drinks are free to refill and Seven-Eleven as well. That's actually great, but it was unusual for me. I loved it.


I'd like to hear more about what was strange for you in the States, if that's okay :)

nihonguchi 06-24-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 869656)
I'd like to hear more about what was strange for you in the States, if that's okay :)

I'm very impressed for your reply. I learned there are so many differences between Japan and the States:)

These are some strange things for me:
・American guys are very gentle to others, when someone is behind a guy, he waits for its person with a door open.
・Many people have their own cars.(maybe, it's because of very huge country and little public transportations)
・Roads are usually very wide and many traffic lanes for same direction.
・When they walk pass their acquaintance,they immediately start short conversations with "How are you?" or "What's up?" even if they are busy or not so close acquaintance.
・Some rules are very different from other states.
・There are many Starbucks in cities.
・Taxis are always yellow.
・Many people are very frank to others.
・Girls don't shave off their arm hair.

You know, there are a lot of interesting things for me:)

ryuurui 06-24-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nihonguchi (Post 869726)
・Girls don't shave off their arm hair.

they are probably too absorbed shaving the other hair. :D

astrogaijin 06-24-2011 05:22 PM

Speaking of the hugging thing, I saw this article a couple minutes ago.
Japan invents the self hugging vest

ryuurui 06-24-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by astrogaijin (Post 869731)
Speaking of the hugging thing, I saw this article a couple minutes ago.
Japan invents the self hugging vest

that is depressing, so is the kissing machine, i wont comment on this further because al the Japanophiles will jump on me again hahaha
:ywave:

Leanne182x 06-24-2011 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nihonguchi (Post 869726)
・Girls don't shave off their arm hair.

Wait sorry if I have this wrong but do girls shave off their arm hair in Japan? As in forearm hair?

ryuurui 06-24-2011 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Leanne182x (Post 869738)
Wait sorry if I have this wrong but do girls shave off their arm hair in Japan? As in forearm hair?

nah man, they don't have any, at least majority does not have any.

Realism 06-24-2011 07:22 PM

Only thing I found weird about Japan was that there are porn in just about every store you go to (which is a good thing for me anyways :D )

Other than that haven't found anything strange/weird.

ryuurui 06-24-2011 08:10 PM

I am glad you enjoy watching moving pixels, and find it so uplifting.

kenmei 06-24-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nihonguchi (Post 869726)
・Taxis are always yellow.

my wife also found it funny that there's a yellow taxi company named "Yellow Cab" ;)

Nyororin 06-25-2011 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuurui (Post 869744)
nah man, they don't have any, at least majority does not have any.

Hahahahahahaha

Oh, sorry.

They don`t have any because they shave it off.
Unshaved girls usually have pretty dark arm hair.

Want proof? Look at girls who are too young to be shaving their arms but who are old enough to start getting hairy. It doesn`t all just magically fall out.

Women in Japan also shave their faces. You can buy special razors for this, and no, they`re not just for old women or between the eyebrows.

Nameless 06-25-2011 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 869771)
Hahahahahahaha

Oh, sorry.

They don`t have any because they shave it off.
Unshaved girls usually have pretty dark arm hair.

Want proof? Look at girls who are too young to be shaving their arms but who are old enough to start getting hairy. It doesn`t all just magically fall out.

Women in Japan also shave their faces. You can buy special razors for this, and no, they`re not just for old women or between the eyebrows.

Do japanese girls have mustache?

Also, what's so bad about a self-hugging machine? some people don't have any other options...

And how come no one mentioned the way the japanese and the westerners take baths?
(or did I miss it? sorry if so)...

Nyororin 06-25-2011 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nameless (Post 869775)
Do japanese girls have mustache?

They do if they don`t shave, wax, or remove it in some other way. It`s normal, and everyone just takes care of it.

---

Back on topic - one of the first things that struck me as being incredibly different - people riding their bicycles... with umbrellas.
That was my big culture shock moment. :vsign:

RealJames 06-25-2011 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 869780)
They do if they don`t shave, wax, or remove it in some other way. It`s normal, and everyone just takes care of it.

---

Back on topic - one of the first things that struck me as being incredibly different - people riding their bicycles... with umbrellas.
That was my big culture shock moment. :vsign:

A few girls I've met admitted to getting very expensive full-body laser hair removal, like permanent.

Speaking of bikes.
Girls riding bikes in miniskirts, that shocked me culturally, in a good way ;)

Nyororin 06-25-2011 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 869783)
A few girls I've met admitted to getting very expensive full-body laser hair removal, like permanent.

It`s not at all uncommon. There are a lot of laser based treatments - some can even be done at home - to reduce the thickness and number of hairs. Hairiness is a big taboo, so girls do make sure to take care of it.

RealJames 06-25-2011 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 869786)
Hairiness is a big taboo

And that's why I'm always a little uneasy about onsen and sento.
I know it's more for women than men.
But the average western guy is a lot more hairy than the average Japanese dude.

I've got more hair on my legs than the entire male side of my gf's family has on their entire body! That's not even getting into chest and arm-hair...

Oh and in case any western woman is reading this;
That feeling American guys get when they see French women with armpit hair, that's very similar to how Japanese guys feel when they see the hairy arms peach fuzz on western women ;)

Nyororin 06-25-2011 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 869802)
And that's why I'm always a little uneasy about onsen and sento.
I know it's more for women than men.
But the average western guy is a lot more hairy than the average Japanese dude.

For guys, I don`t really think anyone is going to care. There isn`t really a culture of body shaving for men, so at the worst they`ll just think that you`re, well, hairy. :mtongue: More along the lines of noticing the hair rather than being repulsed by it.

My husband is very hairy for a Japanese guy. He has hairy legs, and actually has a patch of chest hair. :)

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Oh and in case any western woman is reading this;
That feeling American guys get when they see French women with armpit hair, that's very similar to how Japanese guys feel when they see the hairy arms peach fuzz on western women ;)
I came to Japan early enough, and had other things to worry about before coming over here, that I never really noticed things like this until I made later trips back as an independent adult.
I use an epilator on my arms, legs, and armpits. I shave my face with tiny little facial razors. It`s not because I am particularly hairy, have a mustache, beard, or anything like that - but because it`s what everyone does. Peach fuzz on the face is a no-go in Japan.
On visits to the US or on meeting up with other foreign women, it really is something you notice. It stands out. I can`t imagine having fur on my arms (even if it`s thin and blonde), but it seems to be something totally normal outside Japan. I also hate those tiny tiny hairs on the face, particularly because I rarely wear makeup so suck at putting it on - those tiny tiny hairs make it all the harder so I shave them off... But I`ve seen women with what look like full out sideburns who are shocked at the very idea of shaving their face. There has actually been talk of it being a pride thing - western women don`t drop to the level of shaving their faces, blah blah blah. :rolleyes: Japanese women do it though, so I`ve never really thought too deeply about it and just go with the flow of where I actually live.

RealJames 06-25-2011 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 869805)
For guys, I don`t really think anyone is going to care. There isn`t really a culture of body shaving for men, so at the worst they`ll just think that you`re, well, hairy. :mtongue: More along the lines of noticing the hair rather than being repulsed by it.

My husband is very hairy for a Japanese guy. He has hairy legs, and actually has a patch of chest hair. :)



I came to Japan early enough, and had other things to worry about before coming over here, that I never really noticed things like this until I made later trips back as an independent adult.
I use an epilator on my arms, legs, and armpits. I shave my face with tiny little facial razors. It`s not because I am particularly hairy, have a mustache, beard, or anything like that - but because it`s what everyone does. Peach fuzz on the face is a no-go in Japan.
On visits to the US or on meeting up with other foreign women, it really is something you notice. It stands out. I can`t imagine having fur on my arms (even if it`s thin and blonde), but it seems to be something totally normal outside Japan. I also hate those tiny tiny hairs on the face, particularly because I rarely wear makeup so suck at putting it on - those tiny tiny hairs make it all the harder so I shave them off... But I`ve seen women with what look like full out sideburns who are shocked at the very idea of shaving their face. There has actually been talk of it being a pride thing - western women don`t drop to the level of shaving their faces, blah blah blah. :rolleyes: Japanese women do it though, so I`ve never really thought too deeply about it and just go with the flow of where I actually live.

A patch of chest hair.... the only part without hair on my chest is my nipples.

The first time I went back to Canada was about 2 years after being in Japan.
Honestly I didn't notice the absence of body and face hair when I got to Japan, but when I visited Canada again, it was like ... eewwwwww gross.... and one of the girls at the airport in Canada wasn't wearing make-up and that surprised me too. Oh and she wasn't wearing a tight skirt! Reverse culture shock lol...

I met an average western woman in Japan too just walking around, from a distance she seemed normal, but when I got nearer and started chatting, it was like... peach fuzz blowing in the wind and she was about 2 times bigger than the average Japanese woman beside her, in every way. I actually felt average size again haha.

In Canada I'm not tall, just average, 180cm. Most my friends are taller and heavier than me. But in Japan I'm bigger than the 95th percentile of people I come across, this woman reminded me of my position in the west lol.

Nyororin, if you're a bigger woman, how do Japanese people feel around you?
I understand what kind of impression taller/bigger men get, but how about women? If you're not bigger, do you know anyways?

Nyororin 06-25-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 869807)
A patch of chest hair.... the only part without hair on my chest is my nipples.

No personal offense intended, but profuse body hair creeps me out. :D I can`t ever recall finding it anything... good. My husband is really at the top of my tolerance level.

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and one of the girls at the airport in Canada wasn't wearing make-up and that surprised me too. Oh and she wasn't wearing a tight skirt! Reverse culture shock lol...
I`ve actually found it easier to get away without much/any makeup in Japan than elsewhere. I have fairly decent and clear skin with no wrinkles or blemishes (probably because I avoid makeup). I am also pretty lucky to have visible eyelashes and eyebrows that don`t have to be primped to look alright. On trips to the US, it seems like there is a tendency to go for visibly gaudy makeup rather than natural stuff. I know there is some gaudy stuff in Japan, but once past a certain age you don`t see it. In the US, there were 40+ year old women with bright and vibrant eye shadow... And it was normal.

With the skirts - I think that skirts in general are far far more common in Japan. Miniskirts are a certain age range, but skirts altogether are much more common here (as are dresses).

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Nyororin, if you're a bigger woman, how do Japanese people feel around you?
I understand what kind of impression taller/bigger men get, but how about women? If you're not bigger, do you know anyways?
I`m definitely not tall - 159cm / 5'3"(I think?) - so have no idea how it feels to tower above people.
I`m chubby by Japanese standards, but average by US standards. :P (Which is kind of a mystery as it certainly doesn`t have to do with diet - i eat the same things as everyone else, and a lot less than my ultra-thin friends. They can suck down enough to feed my whole family in one sitting...)

My MIL (also chubby by Japanese standards - we could share clothes if I didn`t have a larger bust) thought it was hilarious that she was able to shop in the "petit" section on a visit to the US.

RealJames 06-25-2011 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 869811)
No personal offense intended, but profuse body hair creeps me out. :D I can`t ever recall finding it anything... good. My husband is really at the top of my tolerance level.



I`ve actually found it easier to get away without much/any makeup in Japan than elsewhere. I have fairly decent and clear skin with no wrinkles or blemishes (probably because I avoid makeup). I am also pretty lucky to have visible eyelashes and eyebrows that don`t have to be primped to look alright. On trips to the US, it seems like there is a tendency to go for visibly gaudy makeup rather than natural stuff. I know there is some gaudy stuff in Japan, but once past a certain age you don`t see it. In the US, there were 40+ year old women with bright and vibrant eye shadow... And it was normal.

With the skirts - I think that skirts in general are far far more common in Japan. Miniskirts are a certain age range, but skirts altogether are much more common here (as are dresses).



I`m definitely not tall - 159cm / 5'3"(I think?) - so have no idea how it feels to tower above people.
I`m chubby by Japanese standards, but average by US standards. :P (Which is kind of a mystery as it certainly doesn`t have to do with diet - i eat the same things as everyone else, and a lot less than my ultra-thin friends. They can suck down enough to feed my whole family in one sitting...)

My MIL (also chubby by Japanese standards - we could share clothes if I didn`t have a larger bust) thought it was hilarious that she was able to shop in the "petit" section on a visit to the US.

No offense taken, until I had more of it I also felt too much body hair was gross. Most of my girlfriends have taken manners into their own hands and shaved or trimmed my chest-forest down lol.

In Canada there's heaps of women who wear no make-up regardless of how beautiful or not they are.
In Japan I get the sense that a woman who shows up to work without make-up has done something rude or untoward.

NewJapanFan 07-07-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nihonguchi (Post 869726)
I'm very impressed for your reply. I learned there are so many differences between Japan and the States:)

These are some strange things for me:
・American guys are very gentle to others, when someone is behind a guy, he waits for its person with a door open.
・Many people have their own cars.(maybe, it's because of very huge country and little public transportations)
・Roads are usually very wide and many traffic lanes for same direction.
・When they walk pass their acquaintance,they immediately start short conversations with "How are you?" or "What's up?" even if they are busy or not so close acquaintance.
・Some rules are very different from other states.
・There are many Starbucks in cities.
・Taxis are always yellow.
・Many people are very frank to others.
・Girls don't shave off their arm hair.

You know, there are a lot of interesting things for me:)

Hi nihonguchi,
Which of the things you mentioned (and maybe some you didn't mention here) would you like to transfer to your country?
And, the other way around - which Japanese habits would you gladly transfer to other countries?

tokusatsufan 07-07-2011 09:48 PM

I'm not planning to grow a beard but there's nothing wrong with sneaking a bit in there.

SHAD0W 07-07-2011 10:54 PM

I'd like to comment on the hugging discussion we have going. Of my native Japanese friends (2 of them male, 5 female) when greeting in Japan and in England, 6 of them went in for a hug before I ever did. Maybe it's because they think that spikey Brit would pounce on them if they weren't ready for it lol. Saying that though, I'm a very huggy person... Maybe they saw how I treat my other friends and assumed it was the norm?

nellie1208 07-08-2011 04:30 PM

When I went to Japan, all I am aware of was the traffic rules. Lol! But as I read everyone's post, I felt shock to some of the ideas. :) But I still love Japan for it is organized and well-mannered. :)

Kayci 07-08-2011 06:20 PM

Right now, Nyororin made me very paranoid about my peach fuzz arms for my upcoming visit to Japan. xD Craapppp.


I learned a lot about personal appearance etiquette on this thread, thanks. XD

Ryzorian 07-08-2011 06:23 PM

I'm not a hugger, will NEVER be a hugger...arms will break if a full atempt is even made.

evanny 07-08-2011 06:39 PM

i have hairy legs. i like it :D warm during winters. rest of the body - well chest and stomach is all covered with think white/blond hairs, except for "belly-button road" which is black :cool:
i know a girl who has a large brown patch(is it a mole? well it is large but not outwards...it is flat) and she has extremely long hair growing out of it. and i don't think it is healthy to remove moles if they are so big.

my friend who is also 1.60cm said she felt average in japan. i'm 192 cm yet i am used to watching down to people when i talk (specially with girls) in my own country, so i don't think if and when i go to japan the giant thing would seem so obvious.
..............
i think japanese men are expected to shave moustache. right? do they also shave pits? i've played basketball all my life and all the teams including myself did and still do so. actually all sportsmen seem to do so.

BobbyCooper 07-08-2011 11:20 PM

I think the Free Hugs signs are Awesome :)

I am thinking about doing this next year in the middle of Tokyo with a group of Japanese.

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Originally Posted by nellie1208 (Post 871118)
When I went to Japan, all I am aware of was the traffic rules. Lol! But as I read everyone's post, I felt shock to some of the ideas. :) But I still love Japan for it is organized and well-mannered. :)

Nice Post Nellie :)

Nyororin 07-09-2011 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kayci (Post 871134)
Right now, Nyororin made me very paranoid about my peach fuzz arms for my upcoming visit to Japan. xD Craapppp.

If it really is peach fuzz - then you have nothing to worry about.
The thing is, what would be considered "peach fuzz" here is a lot less like fuzz and more like a peach.

Something you should keep in mind though - you`re not Japanese, and are only going to be on a visit. It would be no worse than encountering a woman with clearly unshaved legs (Not to the point of bushy hair, but visible). While you might find it unappealing or odd/rare - it`s doubtful that you`ll be ducking into the bushes to gag at it.
If you were going to be living, long term, in the country then I`d advise following the flow - on a short trip I wouldn`t even worry about it.

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i think japanese men are expected to shave moustache. right? do they also shave pits? i've played basketball all my life and all the teams including myself did and still do so. actually all sportsmen seem to do so.
It is pretty regular to be clean shaven - but there are men out there with mustaches and beards. They just are fairly uncommon.
I don`t think it`s normal to shave the armpits - although it might be in some sports. I don`t think it`s a regular thing among the general male population.

Kayci 07-09-2011 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 871161)
If it really is peach fuzz - then you have nothing to worry about.
The thing is, what would be considered "peach fuzz" here is a lot less like fuzz and more like a peach.

Something you should keep in mind though - you`re not Japanese, and are only going to be on a visit. It would be no worse than encountering a woman with clearly unshaved legs (Not to the point of bushy hair, but visible). While you might find it unappealing or odd/rare - it`s doubtful that you`ll be ducking into the bushes to gag at it.
If you were going to be living, long term, in the country then I`d advise following the flow - on a short trip I wouldn`t even worry about it.



It is pretty regular to be clean shaven - but there are men out there with mustaches and beards. They just are fairly uncommon.
I don`t think it`s normal to shave the armpits - although it might be in some sports. I don`t think it`s a regular thing among the general male population.

I dont think I would gag over it, i am just worried on how I look to them...I was actually approached about this by Korean friends just last night, and they seem similar and talked about what you did...so I am just really self-conscious

RealJames 07-09-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kayci (Post 871265)
I dont think I would gag over it, i am just worried on how I look to them...I was actually approached about this by Korean friends just last night, and they seem similar and talked about what you did...so I am just really self-conscious

why not just shave it off for the trip either way?
i see my gf do it now and then,
It's like 1min to do it in the shower...

it seems like less work than for me to shave my beard!

Kayci 07-10-2011 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 871276)
why not just shave it off for the trip either way?
i see my gf do it now and then,
It's like 1min to do it in the shower...

it seems like less work than for me to shave my beard!

Yeah, I am planning to shave arm hair at the least before I go. I dont have thick, and its barely noticable, but still...

RealJames 07-10-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kayci (Post 871315)
Yeah, I am planning to shave arm hair at the least before I go. I dont have thick, and its barely noticable, but still...

don't stop there, go the whole 9 yards in case you meet someone you want to make a great impression on!


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