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SobaUdon 06-27-2011 02:03 PM

Japanese girls that stare at gaijin
 
I came back from Tokyo a few days ago. Something I noticed there was all the staring at me from Japanese people. I actually liked it, but a lot of girls (compared to here) stared at me too. How do I know if they look because they like me or simply because they're not used to seeing a foreigner?

godwine 06-27-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SobaUdon (Post 870016)
I came back from Tokyo a few days ago. Something I noticed there was all the staring at me from Japanese people. I actually liked it, but a lot of girls (compared to here) stared at me too. How do I know if they look because they like me or simply because they're not used to seeing a foreigner?

I highly doubt that the stare means they like you.

Foreigners stands out in Japan because they look different. Its the same stare we get when there weren't that many asian immigrants in North America.

People look at you because you look different.....

termogard 06-27-2011 02:29 PM

foreigners
 
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Originally Posted by SobaUdon (Post 870016)
I How do I know if they look because they like me or simply because they're not used to seeing a foreigner?

Next time you should come to them and ask about.

RealJames 06-27-2011 03:44 PM

A lot of people like "different"
and even if they don't like it more than normal, they still want to try it out.

A good portion of the staring people would be down for a test-run of "different".

edit:
just realized I'm probably going to get chewed out for what I said, so let me add
Japanese girls are not all sluts.
Not everyone that stares at you wants you to take them to a ラブホ.
That said, sex isn't bad. western foreigners are not common enough that everyone who wants to try it out has had their chance.

WingsToDiscovery 06-27-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 870025)
A lot of people like "different"
and even if they don't like it more than normal, they still want to try it out.

A good portion of the staring people would be down for a test-run of "different".

While I don't want to falsely inflate anyone's ego, my man RealJames here isn't lying :D

MMM 06-27-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 870025)
That said, sex isn't bad. western foreigners are not common enough that everyone who wants to try it out has had their chance.

I don't understand this sentence, but, who said anything about sex?

godwine 06-27-2011 04:13 PM

You guys are only contributing to the group that think they can easily get lucky with some hot sexy Japanese girl because they are caucasian.

MMM 06-27-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 870028)
You guys are only contributing to the group that think they can easily get lucky with some hot sexy Japanese girl because they are caucasian.

Oh to go back to 1985 again.

godwine 06-27-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 870029)
Oh to go back to 1985 again.

Funny thing is, I wonder if the girls I talk to "pretend" to be more traditional or if these "Caucasian" groups are just talking to a different group of girls.

Most of the girls I spoke with are not open to the idea of just getting physical with a Caucasian because they are different. Their interest are only in the mind and cultural difference

According to the people that I talk to, the ones that will just openly jump in the arms of a forienger are girls that get around enough that the local don't want to touch them, not even if they stand naked in front of them.....

WingsToDiscovery 06-27-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 870030)
Funny thing is, I wonder if the girls I talk to "pretend" to be more traditional or if these "Caucasian" groups are just talking to a different group of girls.

Most of the girls I spoke with are not open to the idea of just getting physical with a Caucasian because they are different. Their interest are only in the mind and cultural difference

According to the people that I talk to, the ones that will just openly jump in the arms of a forienger are girls that get around enough that the local don't want to touch them, not even if they stand naked in front of them.....

Look, I'm normally not one to openly discuss this kind of topic because I don't like to portray any stereotypes either. Something many people wishing to come to Japan can't seem to realize that if they're unattractive, socially awkward, nerdy, or any combination of the three, they're not going to have any more success in Japan than they would back home.

However, if you're a mildly attractive to good looking foreigner in Japan, there is no denying that you will probably have better success rates than back home, and this is for two reasons. The first is, well, we're different, like everyone else said. The second reason is, because for some reason a lot of guys who come to Asia lose their shame, so they're much more likely to hit on the cute Japanese girl working at the bar than they would the white girl working at the bar back home. Being different and having no shame is a double threat. It's a numbers game. The more girls you ask, the more likely one will say yes.

To be frank, I'm decent looking enough. I'm not Brad Pitt by any means, but I've never really had a hard time talking to/going out with girls back home. With that said, I would never get scouted by some modeling agency or anything like that back home. But since I've been in Japan, I got offered to work for a modeling agency (a legitimate one) and although I turned it down, a friend of mine took the same company up on the offer and it's not gotten to the point where they're doing travel arrangements for him to do photoshoots, and he's just a Joe from Arkansas. I have another friend with a similar story (from Indiana.) And if people are willing to put us in advertisements, there's got to be more to it than what's in our heads.

godwine 06-27-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery (Post 870032)
Look, I'm normally not one to openly discuss this kind of topic because I don't like to portray any stereotypes either. Something many people wishing to come to Japan can't seem to realize that if they're unattractive, socially awkward, nerdy, or any combination of the three, they're not going to have any more success in Japan than they would back home.

However, if you're a mildly attractive to good looking foreigner in Japan, there is no denying that you will probably have better success rates than back home, and this is for two reasons. The first is, well, we're different, like everyone else said. The second reason is, because for some reason a lot of guys who come to Asia lose their shame, so they're much more likely to hit on the cute Japanese girl working at the bar than they would the white girl working at the bar back home. Being different and having no shame is a double threat. It's a numbers game. The more girls you ask, the more likely one will say yes.

To be frank, I'm decent looking enough. I'm not Brad Pitt by any means, but I've never really had a hard time talking to/going out with girls back home. With that said, I would never get scouted by some modeling agency or anything like that back home. But since I've been in Japan, I got offered to work for a modeling agency (a legitimate one) and although I turned it down, a friend of mine took the same company up on the offer and it's not gotten to the point where they're doing travel arrangements for him to do photoshoots, and he's just a Joe from Arkansas. I have another friend with a similar story (from Indiana.) And if people are willing to put us in advertisements, there's got to be more to it than what's in our heads.

Can't say I disagree, but have it occur to you that you are being scouted because you may fit a certain description of an ad that they need? I am guessing maybe a description of "White dude that look professional". I am more average than anyone can possibly imagine, but I actually got a couple of ad screening myself too simply because they need a professional looking asian guy....

WingsToDiscovery 06-27-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 870033)
Can't say I disagree, but have it occur to you that you are being scouted because you may fit a certain description of an ad that they need? I am guessing maybe a description of "White dude that look professional". I am more average than anyone can possibly imagine, but I actually got a couple of ad screening myself too simply because they need a professional looking asian guy....

They wanted me with with a Japanese haircut and shirtless, hence why I turned it down. Not really like the typical "wear a business suit and look like you're doing something important" photo shoot. My friend, like I said, took the same agency up on the offer and now I get to lol at the photos on Facebook.

Edit: I should add that it's also like a tenured modeling agency, so they weren't looking for just a one time deal.

MMM 06-27-2011 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 870030)
Funny thing is, I wonder if the girls I talk to "pretend" to be more traditional or if these "Caucasian" groups are just talking to a different group of girls.

Most of the girls I spoke with are not open to the idea of just getting physical with a Caucasian because they are different. Their interest are only in the mind and cultural difference

According to the people that I talk to, the ones that will just openly jump in the arms of a forienger are girls that get around enough that the local don't want to touch them, not even if they stand naked in front of them.....

Before the Internet and the shrunken world we live in things like blonde hair and afros really were things you could only see on TV or magazines. Now with the Internet and the sheer volume of foreigners visiting and living in Japan, the novelty of a foreigner has faded to the point that the girls that got excited about things like silky blonde hair are now in their 40s and 50s and beyond.

Terri 06-27-2011 06:51 PM

being an american-born Japanese I only know english and that's all i'll speak..I really dont care to learn japanese..and I don't date asian, black or any other types..I've always dated white guys since that's all there is where I live.

Ryzorian 06-28-2011 02:38 AM

I can't afford to go to Japan anyhow so I don't have a horse in this race.

OHayou 07-11-2011 04:41 AM

I understand how you felt with "the stares".

When I was in Japan, crowds of women would stare, following me wherever I went -- cheering, highfiving, and whistling at me saying "come here white boy"

It was terrible so I decided to go back home to the United States where I can be ignored by all women again and I feel great!

::edit: I suppose i SHOULD put something worthwhile in here. lol On a serious note about the staring: Maybe they liked you, maybe they hated you, maybe they were just curious, maybe they wanted to go on a date with you (NOT sex as was previously alluded too in other posts), or maybe..they DID want to have sex with you. If you don't try to introduce yourself, smile, wave, show any kind of interest then you'll never know. Men are afraid to approach women in America and don't get anywhere (hey i'm with you i'm afraid of women they ARE scary i.e. pointed teeth, long claws, etc you know what im saying) and you probably won't get too far with a Japanese girl you like in Japan since they probably won't come up and initiate a conversation with you (besides they are probably shy about their anglish anyway)

There ARE a lot of probablys in that last paragraph though so there is a small chance I probably don't have any idea what im talking about

drbee 07-11-2011 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 870017)
I highly doubt that the stare means they like you.

Foreigners stands out in Japan because they look different. Its the same stare we get when there weren't that many asian immigrants in North America.

People look at you because you look different.....


this is a common thing in china too ...when i was in china they stare at me like i am a demon ...:mtongue:

siokan 07-11-2011 09:01 AM

rare > want to see > fights against the instinct
lose = gaze
win = glimpsed

Umihito 07-11-2011 12:57 PM

Woah woah... what I'm getting from the posts here is that it's REALLY easy to just find a Japanese girl who'll go on a date straight away with any random foreigner.
I thought it would be a LOT harder than what most people seem to be saying... what about the language barrier? Japanese with self respect? Well maybe self respect is the wrong phrase to use... but maybe caution?

tokusatsufan 07-11-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OHayou (Post 871412)
I understand how you felt with "the stares".

When I was in Japan, crowds of women would stare, following me wherever I went -- cheering, highfiving, and whistling at me saying "come here white boy"

LOL that is such a mental thing to do! ''Come here white boy''? In broken English?! You should have said ''Stop trying to act white!'' Did you see what they looked like? I'm guessing they were really nothing to write home about?!

RealJames 07-11-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Umihito (Post 871445)
Woah woah... what I'm getting from the posts here is that it's REALLY easy to just find a Japanese girl who'll go on a date straight away with any random foreigner.
I thought it would be a LOT harder than what most people seem to be saying... what about the language barrier? Japanese with self respect? Well maybe self respect is the wrong phrase to use... but maybe caution?

Honestly I think it's both a lot easier AND a lot harder.

People tend to have very different and unfounded ideas and curiosities and past experiences relating to foreigners.
Of my gf's friends, some are seriously so NOT into foreigners that they even felt it strange that she is with me. Others are wildly jealous of her. Some simply have no clue and are just inquisitive.
Many others had all these wild misconceptions about what it meant or would be like to have a foreign bf, some really ridiculous shit too.

One of her friends expected that I'd want to be a stay-at-home-dad asap and stop working to leave the salarywoman responsibility to my gf..

In other words, most people simply don't know.
They think we are sex gods, or they think we have soft penises, they think we do all the housework, they think we talk to much, they think we stink, they think we know zero Japanese, or they think we are obviously fluent, they think we are in the military or that we are violent and love to show off muscles, they think so many things and most of all they think nothing or just don't care.

When it comes to one night stands, it's easy for Japanese men too lol, not just westerners, but I definitely had more luck than my friends when I first got here :) including not getting chlamydia like he did lol ><

OHayou 07-13-2011 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tokusatsufan (Post 871456)
LOL that is such a mental thing to do! ''Come here white boy''? In broken English?! You should have said ''Stop trying to act white!'' Did you see what they looked like? I'm guessing they were really nothing to write home about?!

lol @ broken english..."come here-ing rite boy!"

The women in Japan were very feminine, cute, and polite with innocent stares of curiosity. However, every time I played a fighting game at an arcade a Japanese guy would enter into a match with me unannounced (the fighting sims are linked in the arcades which was new TO ME at least) and effectively kick my ass.

Umihito 07-14-2011 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 871469)
Honestly I think it's both a lot easier AND a lot harder.

People tend to have very different and unfounded ideas and curiosities and past experiences relating to foreigners.
Of my gf's friends, some are seriously so NOT into foreigners that they even felt it strange that she is with me. Others are wildly jealous of her. Some simply have no clue and are just inquisitive.
Many others had all these wild misconceptions about what it meant or would be like to have a foreign bf, some really ridiculous shit too.

One of her friends expected that I'd want to be a stay-at-home-dad asap and stop working to leave the salarywoman responsibility to my gf..

In other words, most people simply don't know.
They think we are sex gods, or they think we have soft penises, they think we do all the housework, they think we talk to much, they think we stink, they think we know zero Japanese, or they think we are obviously fluent, they think we are in the military or that we are violent and love to show off muscles, they think so many things and most of all they think nothing or just don't care.

When it comes to one night stands, it's easy for Japanese men too lol, not just westerners, but I definitely had more luck than my friends when I first got here :) including not getting chlamydia like he did lol ><

Ahh, are you talking about this from a resident/long time stayer point of view, or a tourist one? I assumed you meant for tourists before. It would be a lot harder for them right? In terms of a resident, then yeah I see where you're coming from.

Yeah, I guess it all depend on what girl you find, just like anywhere else. But still, I never expected it to be that out in the open. :L

I'm guessing your last paragraph relates to one night stands as a resident too? Seems as you had Japanese friends to take you around and such. Or would you say it's just as easy for a tourist too?

Lol! *high 5*

japan1234567 07-14-2011 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MissMisa (Post 871451)
I got the impression that the Japanese guys thought we were 'easy' because we got so many compliments and erm, ended up getting groped by a couple of weirdos who wanted a one night stand. Don't know about the opposite way round, but my point is, false impressions can easily be given on both sides. I'm not gonna judge everyone on that experience but the over confident ones seemed to be that way.

Maybe the Japanese girls have a thing for foreigners like they seemed to do with us, but tbh the majority of stares just looked curious as we were stared at by girls as well.

:)
Hi MissMisa,
You are right. Japanese girls just looked curious. Local men - like it'd be in every country - feel insecure about this. So, during my last trips in Japan I sometimes experienced embarrassing situations when a young Japanese girl sat near to me. Japanese men started coughing loudly and disturbing. They extremly fantasize about a foreigner and a Japanese girl. Fukuoka and Kyuushu men were mostly fantasizing and disturbing. It was impossible to work or to answer my e-mails. I each time went back to quiet hotel room:mad:
In the truth, Japanese girls want that Japanese men court them.

tokusatsufan 07-14-2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OHayou (Post 871650)
However, every time I played a fighting game at an arcade a Japanese guy would enter into a match with me unannounced (the fighting sims are linked in the arcades which was new TO ME at least) and effectively kick my ass.

Maybe you should try and do it back to them one day if you happen to be there.

godwine 07-14-2011 12:42 PM

I advise against causing any trouble or starting anything that can ause trouble in Japan, regardless of being a tourist or having a work/study visa...

BobbyCooper 07-14-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 871848)
I advise against causing any trouble or starting anything that can ause trouble in Japan, regardless of being a tourist or having a work/study visa...

Why are you so upset about this? People like everything what is different.

For example, when I walk around in Frankfurt and a beautiful Asian girl walks by, I can't help but stare. It's because I rarely see it over here.. same goes for handsome Asian men.

And most of them time, I wish I could spend time with her or do naughty things to her haha :)

Umihito 07-14-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 871856)
And most of them time, I wish I could spend time with her or do naughty things to her haha :)

But that's not what people want when they're on holiday... to be leered over and perved on by guys. I guess it can't be helped, but still. The trials of being a woman, I swear... (I'm not one :L)

I would have thought that you of all people would be worried about polluting her Asian perfection with your white Western manhood :L

Fr3sh 07-14-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Umihito (Post 871865)
I would have thought that you of all people would be worried about polluting her Asian perfection with your white Western manhood :L

LMFAO!!

Anyways I don't think staring should be any kind of problem...they're most likely just curious.

godwine 07-14-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 871856)
Why are you so upset about this? People like everything what is different.

For example, when I walk around in Frankfurt and a beautiful Asian girl walks by, I can't help but stare. It's because I rarely see it over here.. same goes for handsome Asian men.

And most of them time, I wish I could spend time with her or do naughty things to her haha :)

I wasn't talking about the thing with asian girls anymore. I decided to stay out of that conversation.

I was talking about causing trouble in general... if you think that courting with girls during a vacation is a form of causing trouble, then you answered yourself already...

BobbyCooper 07-14-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 871867)
I wasn't talking about the thing with asian girls anymore. I decided to stay out of that conversation.

I was talking about causing trouble in general... if you think that courting with girls during a vacation is a form of causing trouble, then you answered yourself already...

Oh I thought I didn't catch that one :)

BobbyCooper 07-14-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Umihito (Post 871865)
But that's not what people want when they're on holiday... to be leered over and perved on by guys. I guess it can't be helped, but still. The trials of being a woman, I swear... (I'm not one :L)

I would have thought that you of all people would be worried about polluting her Asian perfection with your white Western manhood :L

I don't understand, but I was reffering to why Asian girld stare at Western White guys :)

It's for a reason :)

OHayou 07-14-2011 10:31 PM

Stop wondering and try to communicate back! Wave, smile, Non-verbals are 60% of communication!

I stopped good looking girls in Japan and asked for directions just to practice Japanese and ...talk to a good looking girl!

Once you get past the claws and beady little eyes...girls aren't so scary !

termogard 07-15-2011 12:57 AM

many things
 
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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 871469)
In other words, most people simply don't know.
They think we are sex gods, or they think we have soft penises, they think we do all the housework, they think we talk to much, they think we stink, they think we know zero Japanese, or they think we are obviously fluent, they think we are in the military or that we are violent and love to show off muscles, they think so many things and most of all they think nothing or just don't care.

Yep. The principle of Occam Razor:)

Ryzorian 07-15-2011 02:35 AM

I allways figured people stared at white men cause they were wondering when we would go nutso on them and try to take over what ever part of the world it was.

Neffiline 07-15-2011 01:08 PM

Why is it mostly only about white guys being stared at? Lol

I'm a white girl and was constantly stared at while in Japan for two weeks. It didn't matter if I was alone or with some Japanese friends, anyone and everyone stared at me no matter how I dressed or made my hair and make-up.

It made me uncomfortable for a while, but then one of my Japanese friend said it's cause they liked my big boobs and that made it all better. LOL

godwine 07-15-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Neffiline (Post 871960)
Why is it mostly only about white guys being stared at? Lol

I'm a white girl and was constantly stared at while in Japan for two weeks. It didn't matter if I was alone or with some Japanese friends, anyone and everyone stared at me no matter how I dressed or made my hair and make-up.

It made me uncomfortable for a while, but then one of my Japanese friend said it's cause they liked my big boobs and that made it all better. LOL

Well, I think any girls with a gorgeous body will get stares, regardless of their ethnicity... but it is rare to find a Japanese girl with big boobs, so, I guess you stood out in more than one way :) Both the skin color and the body!

BobbyCooper 07-15-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 871918)
I allways figured people stared at white men cause they were wondering when we would go nutso on them and try to take over what ever part of the world it was.

Which Time are you living in? :D Imperialism is not common these days and Japan knows more then well what that is, so why would they feel the need to be scared?^^

JohnBraden 07-15-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 871971)
Which Time are you living in? :D Imperialism is not common these days and Japan knows more then well what that is, so why would they feel the need to be scared?^^

I think your humor radar is malfunctioning....

BobbyCooper 07-15-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnBraden (Post 871975)
I think your humor radar is malfunctioning....

oh my answer was pure sarcasm :)


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