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dogsbody70 07-10-2011 01:23 PM

[quote=BobbyCooper;871272]Oh it would be foolish to think "otherwise"..

The thing you need to understand is that some Nations and their people have a different mindset, with different moral values and different behaviour.

Are the Japanese and Koreans more kind and more caring then the Western Society?

It's impossible to deny that fact and can't be answered with every human being is different!

Does Japan have black sheeps? Of course, but compared to Great Britian, the Japanese people spread much more love and kindness.



Or is the Peace symbol also just an "act" for you?



UM Bobby Cooper. methinks you live in cloud cuckoo land.

we do all act-- all the time. Maybe not be conscious of it but if we wish to keep the peace we do not always show our real feelings.

we could so easily hurt or upset someone if we told them what we really think about them. its a case of being tactful and courteous. Our country is often lacking in respect these days and I think that is such a shame.

RESPECT for others is important.


Maybe we are brought up in a certain way-- that influences our behaviour.

I believe that all humans are the same under the skin.

Maybe there are cultural differences but we all have faults--everyone of us. Otherwise we might as well be robots.

it can be dangerous to put a whole nation on an unreasonable pedestal.

Humans are Humans.


I went out of my way to do many things for my former japanese friend.

she broke her arm and came to us. we took her to the hospital. she then came in almost daily for her food etc.

We made our home-- Her home. Many English people have been extremely kind and good to her helping her in numerous situations. Our MP's have helped her-- so many of us have-- willingly.

She has also taken much advantage of these kind people, anything to keep her visa.

She is human but has grown up in a culture that hides feelings and emotions and at her age she will never be as English as she desires to be. she does not want to return to her home in Japan. she is in love with England, its countryside and people.

sorry Bobby to disillusion you about Humans.

we are capable of very good we are capable of EVIL.

dogsbody70 07-10-2011 01:27 PM

I also disagree that politeness and kindness are the same thing.

Kindness means going out of ones way to help other people. Politeness is simply having good manners and respect for others.

WingsToDiscovery 07-10-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 871340)
Watch a PRIDE Fighting Championship Event and then watch a Ultimate Fighting Championship Event in the USA.

Pride ones was the biggest Sporting Event in Japan. The Tokyo Dome was always filled with 90.000 Japanese people. There was silence in the Tokyo Dome!!

Maybe it's not such a huge difference while watching Soccer.. but it's certainly a trend which stands out the most.

It's because of a different culture with very different manners.

You'll notice the difference in irregular sports like these because of different kinds of stimulation. The UFC purposely focuses on the "raw" attitude, pumping fans up with rock music, girls in bikinis, and replays of carnage. Japanese MMA is a totally different spectacle, where the focus is different.

But compare Japanese fans and American fans in other sports like soccer, baseball, etc and they're no different. It's not about the manners, but how the sport is portrayed and advertised.

JBaymore 07-10-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 871340)
Watch a PRIDE Fighting Championship Event and then watch a Ultimate Fighting Championship Event in the USA.

Pride ones was the biggest Sporting Event in Japan. The Tokyo Dome was always filled with 90.000 Japanese people. There was silence in the Tokyo Dome!!

Wow... did you ever notice that the audience in the USA's PGA golf tour must all be Japanese in disquise? They hardly make a sound when something happens. ;)

best,

...........john

Umihito 07-22-2011 05:01 PM

I'd just like to ask... for the people living in Japan, or even those who have visited, have you ever been downright ignored on the street when you tried to ask someone something in Japanese, especially in Tokyo?

godwine 07-22-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Umihito (Post 872998)
I'd just like to ask... for the people living in Japan, or even those who have visited, have you ever been downright ignored on the street when you tried to ask someone something in Japanese, especially in Tokyo?

Plenty of times... especially with people between 20-30... ...

Not only Tokyo... Kyoto the same...

godwine 07-22-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JBaymore (Post 871358)
Wow... did you ever notice that the audience in the USA's PGA golf tour must all be Japanese in disquise? They hardly make a sound when something happens. ;)

best,

...........john

Just a muted TV... I watch all kind of MMA on tv... i am sure i heard the crowd going wild.. especially with Yuta Kubo lately.. every strong kick he made have this nice sound effect coming from the crowd.. or unless his legs made those noise, in which case, I'll need to ask him to teach me

Umihito 07-22-2011 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 873000)
Plenty of times... especially with people between 20-30... ...

Not only Tokyo... Kyoto the same...

Really? Woah, well that's a relief then! :L

I was ignored on the street by a person for the first time in my life today... it played on my mind for a while afterwards for some reason, so it's an incredible relief to know it happens often.

Then again who knows, this person could have been a Chinese or Korean tourist :L

godwine 07-22-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Umihito (Post 873003)
Really? Woah, well that's a relief then! :L

I was ignored on the street by a person for the first time in my life today... it played on my mind for a while afterwards for some reason, so it's an incredible relief to know it happens often.

Then again who knows, this person could have been a Chinese or Korean tourist :L

Are you Caucasian?

Possibly, in my case, they are all Japanese.. I guess they thought that I was Japanese, and assume that I am stupid for not knowing what I was asking, thats why they ignored me

Again, while my experieince are 80% positive, there are "regular" society issues like everywhere else....

Umihito 07-22-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 873004)
Are you Caucasian?

Possibly, in my case, they are all Japanese.. I guess they thought that I was Japanese, and assume that I am stupid for not knowing what I was asking, thats why they ignored me

Again, while my experieince are 80% positive, there are "regular" society issues like everywhere else....

Yeah I am.
I guess it wasn't helped by the fact it was night too, and there weren't many people around, but I didn't want to mention that until I got a response. heh


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