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BobbyCooper 07-28-2011 12:03 AM

My heart warmed up after I watched this video guys!!
 


The topic is irrelevant!

Only focus on the Japanese people in this video but don't ignore the Western.

OHayou 07-28-2011 12:23 AM

My heart is warming already! ! :rheart: I can see where you're going with this Bobby and I feel better already knowing that if I was born in Japan and one of my parents was American and the other Japanese that my Japanese brethren would accept me with open arms.

Also, I like how you cleverly snuck yourself in to give a comment @ the 5:50 mark.

BobbyCooper 07-29-2011 09:50 AM

Oh no, no Hayou^^ you mixed me up with the guy at 0.41

I'm glad you felt the same way watching this vid :rheart:

and I'm sure your Japanese brothers will accept you with open arm!! You don't have to be hafu and need Japanese blood in you to be accepted by these people. Just look how big there hearts are!!

There is enough space for everybody in there :rheart:

GabiSoare 07-30-2011 08:00 AM

Sorry to say, but what does hafus mean?
Tx in advance :)

RealJames 07-30-2011 10:33 AM

If you watch this video and believe that the answers given are honest then you are either insanely delusional or haven't the slightest bit of an idea of what Japanese culture is like...

I, a 100% white man, could ask the most racist and white-hating of Japanese people what they think of white people and 999 times out of 1000 would get something along the lines of "I don't really think so much of them" or "we're all the same, aren't we" or some other cooked answer.

A friend of mine was threatened by his father that he'd be disowned if he married his half-Korean girlfriend (who has lived in Japan her entire life, and speaks only Japanese) and yet there was no problem until marriage entered the conversation.

It's kind of like how in western culture everyone's cool with homosexuality and whatnot until their son brings home a boyfriend and then suddenly all that understanding and acceptance is thrown out the window.

tokusatsufan 07-30-2011 10:39 AM

I wouldn't say my heart warmed up. They love biracial people,it doesn't mean they care about actual white and black people!

BobbyCooper 07-30-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokusatsufan (Post 874053)
I wouldn't say my heart warmed up. They love biracial people,it doesn't mean they care about actual white and black people!

lol :D

Like I said, the Topic they are talking about is from no importance.

JohnBraden 07-30-2011 01:15 PM

So, what's the point of this? You say the topic is irrelevant, so why discuss hafus with people on this thread. Focus on the Japanese, why? Because you like them? So what? People in Japan are going to say what's appropriate more often than what they really think, imo....

Are you just trying to psych yourself into thinking you'll be accepted trying to live there or something? You make absolutely no sense....

spicytuna 07-30-2011 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 874052)
If you watch this video and believe that the answers given are honest then you are either insanely delusional or haven't the slightest bit of an idea of what Japanese culture is like...

Don't be too hard on him. You have to experience honne and tatamae to understand its concept. Hard to do if you haven't lived in Japan.

Bobby is setting himself up for some major disappointment.

OHayou 07-30-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 873915)
Oh no, no Hayou^^ you mixed me up with the guy at 0.41

I'm glad you felt the same way watching this vid :rheart:

and I'm sure your Japanese brothers will accept you with open arm!! You don't have to be hafu and need Japanese blood in you to be accepted by these people. Just look how big there hearts are!!

There is enough space for everybody in there :rheart:

lol @ guy at .41... You crack me up Bobby.


For the record, there are Japanese who don't like certain Japanese. There is a Japanese business man living in America that my company deals with who looked in disgust as he was told I was visiting Osaka. His response was "why does he want to go to the country? Tokyo is more interesting than those kind of people." (country used here to imply simple minded, backward type people)

It is strange but I've noticed that some foreigners who live in Japan tend to seem jaded or cynical or just disenfranchised or rude. Perhaps its because they are not seemingly being accepted by the Japanese with open arms like they might have envisioned. Maybe they were always this jaded or cynical or rude.
Just check out some of the youtube J-Bloggers to illustrate this point who would seem somewhat socially awkward or standoffish in their own country (America: where most are from) let alone in a different country.

What was the point of that? Well 2 fold here.

One is the misconception that just because you speak the language of a particular country that this makes you a person that is automatically desirable to hang out with or be friends with. This is probably (probably) why some people who are dissapointed when they go to a different country are dissapointed: their belief that they would be any more agreeable or tolerable or "cooler" in a different country is shattered even when they are fluent. (Remember: you take you with you, if you're a prick in one country..you're probably a prick in another. You can only "hide" your character for so long.)

Second that You young Bobby are a very optimistic and happy person although maybe a bit naive about the fact that there are people in Japan who will not like you. However, maybe you have already accepted this and realize there are people in EVERY country who won't like you. lol

If you can keep your annoyingly happy, go-lucky, Go Japan! spirit alive through the ups-and-downs when you do go to Japan you'll make more friends than enemies.

Which will be 3 friends, 1 enemy, and everyone else scratching their head in bemused bewilderment at you. lol (jk around here yoo)

tokusatsufan 07-30-2011 11:49 PM

Optimism isn't exactly a crime either. We live in a rather overly pessimistic society. I believe in giving credit where credit is due.

On the flipside,I suppose I can't say what they think without living there but maybe some of those people do genuinely think those things. People are paranoid and overanalyze situations in this part of the world. I mean,there are degrees. Some of them are probably secretly racist,some of them don't think they are but then they are when they meet them,but even if it's just one,at least one of them must mean what they're saying.

(I haven't forgotten the time I was accused of 'never having been to Japan' by the way,if people are going to try and claim that they are as pessimistic as the western world then they are ones that have never been there)

BobbyCooper 07-31-2011 10:22 AM

Go Japan!! Go Japan!! Go Japan!!:rheart:

I am tired of these posts here really.. you guys have zero clue on how to value their culture and Love!! The way people put our shity society in the same category is beyond me!!

tokusatsufan said it well! I haven't seen so many pessemistic people at ones.. it's more then just disgusting to me!! You guys are just cry babies because you can't be there right now or in a long time.. which is more then understandable of course.

The first time when I meet a Japanese person and say arigato gozaimasu and I will lower by head a little at him and he will return with a beautiful bow at me and I will take a bow again and he will return the bow ones again in such a beautiful and kind way and I know that he/she won't stop before I stop.. :)

Then.. I will know that I have finally found the place!

I feel Sorry for most of you guys for your poor mindset :vsign:

evanny 07-31-2011 10:45 AM

boby. go crash into a brick wall :cool:

your weebo personality is just beyond annoying. you haven't even met a Japanese person and yet you already jizz your pants about Japan.

also. no Japanese would be happy to meet another delusional foreigner who sees everything with his pink glasses on.

Nyororin 07-31-2011 11:11 AM

I used to think Bobby was a troll, but now I just find him fascinating... And am just waiting to see how things will be for him when he actually makes it to Japan. I`m sure it will be highly entertaining... If he posts about it.

It`s amazing that those of us who actually live in Japan and have lived in Japan for truly significant amounts of time could be seen as having no clue about the "real" Japan.

GoNative 07-31-2011 12:24 PM

Of course someone who's never been to Japan before and has only met a few Japanese people whilst on holiday in Australia would have a far better understanding of the Japanese people and culture than those who've lived significant portions of their lives in Japan Nyororin!!! It only makes sense....if you're a moron! :mtongue:

Umihito 07-31-2011 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 874108)
Go Japan!! Go Japan!! Go Japan!!:rheart:

I am tired of these posts here really.. you guys have zero clue on how to value their culture and Love!! The way people put our shity society in the same category is beyond me!!

tokusatsufan said it well! I haven't seen so many pessemistic people at ones.. it's more then just disgusting to me!! You guys are just cry babies because you can't be there right now or in a long time.. which is more then understandable of course.

The first time when I meet a Japanese person and say arigato gozaimasu and I will lower by head a little at him and he will return with a beautiful bow at me and I will take a bow again and he will return the bow ones again in such a beautiful and kind way and I know that he/she won't stop before I stop.. :)

Then.. I will know that I have finally found the place!

I feel Sorry for most of you guys for your poor mindset :vsign:

Agreed with Nyororin fully!

I've seen a lot of your posts on here Bobby... but I must say, this one takes the cake.
I'm just... speechless. There's obviously no persuading you otherwise, so I guess it's pointless trying. But just remember, many of the people who reply to you live in Japan. Even I've been there for 3 weeks. I've seen and met Japanese people in their homeland, while you've only seen fellow tourists. All I can say is I can't wait to see the look on your face the second a Japanese person thinks you're strange.

And if you continue that bowing loop for that long, then I think you would put any Japanese off being polite lol

Columbine 07-31-2011 12:46 PM

I think the Japanese people in the video are probably being fairly genuine in as far as they do believe in what they are saying, rather than it being just token answers.

If it's anything, the people being asked have probably not considered deeply what it means to be mixed-race in Japan, because it's just not something they have in their life. The question is also a little biased towards stereotype. They asked what the image of half's was, not what the individual thought. As a result the answers are mostly based on stereotypes, which are largely positive, but still stereotypes.

Only a few of them knew anyone mixed-race closely; no one really offered up an anecdote, which may not be a very Japanese way to approach a question, but a good interviewer could prompt that if there was a basis for it. Also I think it's quite telling that they didn't find anyone who had anything negative to say. This was a one off, very quick sampling of people on the street; yes, these people likely were very positive about mixed-racial heritage in Japan, which is lovely and I'm glad to see it, but the point is, it's not representative and not very informative of the real-life experiences of halfs and the environment they live in. There are quiet but significant social problems with immigrants and integration in Japan. People with negative opinions probably wouldn't have approached the interviewers or allowed themselves to be interviewed.

Nyororin 07-31-2011 04:02 PM

You know... I don`t see anything particularly heart warming in this video at all.
All I see are people parroting the popular media image of mixed-race people as being cool, more attractive, smarter than average, etc etc.

When media image doesn`t match up with reality, people react MUCH differently. A "Half" who isn`t bilingual, isn`t model-like in appearance, isn`t super fashionable does NOT get a positive reaction.

I know someone who has a not-so-attractive half child. They`re not ugly. The little girl looks a lot like her dad, but has gotten the less attractive features. She`s what would be considered "average".

She has a huge complex now (in elementary school) because when people see her their remarks aren`t ones of acceptance or love. They are "What a waste." "What`s the point of having a half kid if they`re going to be this ugly." "I didn`t know halfs could be so ugly. What did her parents do wrong?" etc. Yeah, real heartwarming. :rolleyes:

Basically, if you`re a model-looking who is perfectly bilingual and who spent part of your life abroad - you`ll be considered "cool" by the opposite sex, and loathed by the same sex because of it.

"Half" kids are looked at in the same way weeabos look at Japanese babies. Oh they`re so cute, I want to have one all my own and raise it to be cool and bi-cultural!!! Like a little dog to show off.

And before Bobby hops along and says that I don`t know the true love and superiority of the beautiful pure hearted Japanese... I have a "half" kid.

BTW - the girl at 1:26 needs to be slapped. 混合・混血 is pretty darn derogatory. You want to get a parent of a half kid to punch you - call the kid a 混血児.

BobbyCooper 07-31-2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 874119)
I used to think Bobby was a troll, but now I just find him fascinating... And am just waiting to see how things will be for him when he actually makes it to Japan. I`m sure it will be highly entertaining... If he posts about it.

It`s amazing that those of us who actually live in Japan and have lived in Japan for truly significant amounts of time could be seen as having no clue about the "real" Japan.

I'm the furthest from a troll Nyororin. It scares me that people even think that, after all my posts on here. It gives you a great indication on why the Western society doesn't work anymore.

Oh I doupt I will spend one second in front of a computer screen with pessimistic people in a virtual world while I am in beautiful Nippon-koku. Every second is going to be LIFE sourrounded by people who are like me!!
I wasted too much time already and I am already 23.. I need to catch up for what I've lost after my World trip 3 years ago now..
I plan on never returning except for my Honeymoon^^ so I might as well write again while being in Japan/Korea/South-East Asia/China/Taiwan.. who knows ;)

I also never said that I would know the real Japan either.. I only said that I know the difference between Asia and our World.

And that I Love Asia so, so , so much more BECAUSE OF THEIR WONERFUL PEOPLE and that I want to become old on this part of the world, cause otherwise my life wouldn't be fulfiled.

GoNative 07-31-2011 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 874163)
And before Bobby hops along and says that I don`t know the true love and superiority of the beautiful pure hearted Japanese... I have a "half" kid.

You're forgetting that Bobby knows far more than you though Nyororin. He may never have been to Japan before but he knows far more about the people and culture and well just about anything to do with Japan than you ever could. Just because you've lived there for a good portion of your life and you're fluent in the language and happen to be married to a Japanese guy and have a half child is all meaningless to Bobby. Remember he spent a little time with some Japanese people whilst on holiday in Australia. He knows all about Japan and its' people!! :rolleyes:

Columbine 07-31-2011 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 874163)

BTW - the girl at 1:26 needs to be slapped. 混合・混血 is pretty darn derogatory. You want to get a parent of a half kid to punch you - call the kid a 混血児.

D: I totally missed that. I recall going 'eh' at the subs when she was talking, but I didn't pick up that she actually said that.

Ew.

BobbyCooper 07-31-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoNative (Post 874174)
You're forgetting that Bobby knows far more than you though Nyororin. He may never have been to Japan before but he knows far more about the people and culture and well just about anything to do with Japan than you ever could. Just because you've lived there for a good portion of your life and you're fluent in the language and happen to be married to a Japanese guy and have a half child is all meaningless to Bobby. Remember he spent a little time with some Japanese people whilst on holiday in Australia. He knows all about Japan and its' people!! :rolleyes:

use your reading skills and you might get a clue ;)

Quote:

I'm the furthest from a troll Nyororin. It scares me that people even think that, after all my posts on here. It gives you a great indication on why the Western society doesn't work anymore.

Oh I doupt I will spend one second in front of a computer screen with pessimistic people in a virtual world while I am in beautiful Nippon-koku. Every second is going to be LIFE sourrounded by people who are like me!!
I wasted too much time already and I am already 23.. I need to catch up for what I've lost after my World trip 3 years ago now..
I plan on never returning except for my Honeymoon^^ so I might as well write again while being in Japan/Korea/South-East Asia/China/Taiwan.. who knows

I also never said that I would know the real Japan either.. I only said that I know the difference between Asia and our World.

And that I Love Asia so, so , so much more BECAUSE OF THEIR WONERFUL PEOPLE and that I want to become old on this part of the world, cause otherwise my life wouldn't be fulfiled.


JamboP26 07-31-2011 09:45 PM

Oh dear. *Sarcasm fail*

Bobby, you say 'surrounded by people like you'...but the majority of Japanese wont have been brought up in Germany, or think of their own people as perfection. I love Japan too, bud, but I feel my expectations are slightly more realistic

NanteNa 07-31-2011 11:04 PM


Kayci 08-01-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JamboP26 (Post 874209)
Oh dear. *Sarcasm fail*

Bobby, you say 'surrounded by people like you'...but the majority of Japanese wont have been brought up in Germany, or think of their own people as perfection. I love Japan too, bud, but I feel my expectations are slightly more realistic

Edit; Quote for truth

Bobby, trust me, they are NOTHING like you. Thank God...

JBaymore 08-01-2011 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spicytuna (Post 874070)
You have to experience honne and tatamae to understand its concept. Hard to do if you haven't lived in Japan.

Bobby is setting himself up for some major disappointment.

ほんとですよ。

best,

.................john

JohnBraden 08-01-2011 08:31 PM

Things is, even if he does experience total disappointment, we'll never know, as he most likely won't acknowledge it....

Fr3sh 08-01-2011 09:08 PM

Bobby is by far the most entertaining member in this forum imo

Make sure to post here while your in Japan bud...I'd like to hear from you.

JamboP26 08-01-2011 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kayci (Post 874340)
Edit; Quote for truth

Bobby, trust me, they are NOTHING like you. Thank God...

Aye. Nae danger. I'll do that next time if my android phone allows it

BobbyCooper 08-02-2011 05:24 PM

Like I mentioned before, I doupt I will have the craziness to log onto the Internet lol while being in beautiful Nippon-koku!! I would have to punch myself in the face repeatedly in order to withstand that disgust!!

The only thing will be I'm in Heaven mum don't worry!!

Facebook.. lets meet up guys!!


maybe after my Honeymoon^^ I will tell you guys that I reached Paradise :rheart:

JohnBraden 08-02-2011 05:27 PM

RickyBobby is back!:)

kenmei 08-02-2011 05:36 PM

ahhh, I remember the good ol days...when I was 12 and jaded as heck about the world

:mtongue:

godwine 08-02-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBraden (Post 874343)
Things is, even if he does experience total disappointment, we'll never know, as he most likely won't acknowledge it....

I don't know about being disappointed, i mean, he is one of those extreme people that will find reasons to justify any bad situation as long as it happen in Japan....

You know what I mean? Like, certain behavior is totally not acceptable, say stealing food. But if he witness something like that in Japan, he will start finding reason for the person doing it...

I suppose being in denial doesn't necessarily means being gullible or oblivious :)

Let see how much he enjoyed being ignored by everyone else except for the people trying to sell him stuff

BobbyCooper 08-02-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenmei (Post 874473)
ahhh, I remember the good ol days...when I was 12 and jaded as heck about the world

:mtongue:

with 12? yea right lol^^

You probably don't even waste time to think about this World we live in do you??

kenmei 08-02-2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 874481)
with 12? yea right lol^^

You probably don't even waste time to think about this World we live in do you??

I've been to japan multiple times
I'm married to a japanese
My family lives in japan

I think I have a bit more experience on the topic than you do, my friend :)

godwine 08-02-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenmei (Post 874487)
I've been to japan multiple times
I'm married to a japanese
My family lives in japan

I think I have a bit more experience on the topic than you do, my friend :)

Wrong Kenmei.. Very very wrong indeed... Bobby knows better/more than anyone else and everyone else on this forum or in Japan...

kenmei 08-02-2011 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godwine (Post 874488)
Wrong Kenmei.. Very very wrong indeed... Bobby knows better/more than anyone else and everyone else on this forum or in Japan...

his uncle Adolf had the same problem lol

godwine 08-02-2011 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenmei (Post 874490)
his uncle Adolf had the same problem lol

Hmm, while I find the Adolf remarks funny, I think we might be pushing it a little :)

BobbyCooper 08-02-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenmei (Post 874487)
I've been to japan multiple times
I'm married to a japanese
My family lives in japan

I think I have a bit more experience on the topic than you do, my friend :)

I'm not interested in your life story dude lol

Use your reading skills first :ywave:


Quote:

Originally Posted by kenmei (Post 874490)
his uncle Adolf had the same problem lol

lol way below the line here my friend . How did I knew that you must be an American lol :vsign:

kenmei 08-02-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godwine (Post 874491)
Hmm, while I find the Adolf remarks funny, I think we might be pushing it a little :)

i know, i apologize if i offended anyone :o


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