A Look At Why No Looting, Rioting In Japan (Great Article!!!)
 

A Look At Why No Looting, Rioting In Japan | Survival And Prosperity

Think back about Katrina in NewOrleans..

Old News?? You sure?

It couldn't be more timely in our World!!

Yes, but I'm starting to wonder if your world is the same as our world . . .

To go on-topic, I really can't be bothered to read through another post that is the same as the hundreds of others recently cropping up (by you mostly, I think). I will repeat what has been said before, that is: Japan isn't a utopia, it had riots and looting and crime the same as elsewhere, and examples in the recent past have been given of this.

It's from no importance what happened 20-30 years ago.. this World is going fast!

Important is what happens today in our World and this is happening today!!

I know in which World I live in yes!

The thing is, no one is talking about things that happened 20 or 30 years ago. I doubt the world is changing so fast that things that happened 2 or 3 years ago are unimportant.

No not at all! Important is what is happening in our World Today and with today I mean the last couple of years, so your time frame is fairly included.

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But from the parts you bolded, this article looks like a complete rip on America, and was probably written by another weeaboo...

Sure, Americans looted and rioted when Katrina struck, but as you (probably don't) know, there are a lot of idiots on the planet. There were also loads of Americans that DIDN'T do anything like this. Where's your news reports on them? And then where's your news reports on Japanese looting and such to go alongside it?

Bobby, or anyone else here, I beg you to make these threads balanced. If you give balanced arguements Bobby, I bet you'll get more respect here.

Heh, I hope this post hasn't rambled too off-topic ^^;

There aren't any news reports about Japanese looting??

There are many of reports of Japanese looting.

Not to mention the discrimination to Fukushima residents by their own country. As reported in Yomiuri :

"Ever since the accident at Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, many evacuees from Fukushima Prefecture have been subjected to discrimination and prejudice.

A student who transferred from the prefecture to a primary school in the Kanto region was shunned by classmates and eventually stopped going to class. Some gas stations in the Tokyo metropolitan area have refused to serve cars bearing Fukushima license plates."

Of course you won't see any of these stories reported in Western media. You have to look at Japanese new sources.

But there was looting in Japan - Chicago Sun-Times

Looting Rears Its Head in Japan - WSJ.com

Japan earthquake: Looting reported by desperate survivors - Telegraph

There are good people everywhere and there are bad people everywhere....

And one of the reasons why there wasn't massive looting everywhere is because the tsunami washed away a lot of the towns and there wasn't much to loot. There were reports of people going into the exclusion zone and entering people's houses at will, since there wasn't much of a police presence in areas no one was supposed to be....

edit: Change "the reason" to "one of the reasons"

Oh, ok. I didn't know about those reports.
But I don't agree there wasn't much looting just because of the tsunami..

1. I'd love to see BobbyCooper's face at his point being disproved
2. I thought there was no looting, so thanks for these report links
3. I have a severe mistrust in newspapers. Anyone can print what they like & pass it as news. I shall believe this however, as they've sourced it. Sounds like the author of the Chicago one has a slight dislike of Japan with their tone, however

There were almost none! You could probably count them on one hand. But there are people out there who point them out, just to come up with their regular nonsense like "their are bad and good people everywhere".

They are seriously trying to compare them just because "there was some looting in Japan".

It's remarkable and shows you in what kind of a world we live in.

Well.. ofcourse there are good and bad people everywhere and bad things do happen.
But I know what you mean. It seems that some people are just waiting for something bad to happen and then say; AHAH! see? I told you!

(I'm not accusing anyone here)

I'm glad you do!

Almost everyone in this Forum refuses to accept the truth even if it's right in front of them. Most likely because it would hurt their feelings to accept this simple fact, that Japan is a much more peaceful and loving culture then any other land in the Western world.

The remarkable thing, that these people really have the guts to post those links above and say.. look we are all the same, is beyond disrespectful to these people.

How in the World can you even compare this?? It's too much for me..

Lmfao at your views.... But at least you found a friend who thinks like you! You won't be alone now....

Posting an article with the title.."But there was looting in Japan".. just WOW!!

Tells me everything I need to know.

I didn't title the article and it was on the first page of my search to someone else's query. And I'm done here....

So what does that tell you about yourself, to post something like this??

doesn't that make you feel bad? Is there no sense of shame to post something like this??

I just don't get it!!

Bobby, as it appears that you are unable to see why people take issue with and post things opposing you... I will explain it as clearly as possible.

Everyone knows that there is less crime in Japan. Everyone is aware that there was less looting after the earthquake than seems to be the norm elsewhere.
But you do not say less, you say no. There is a huge difference.

I agree that Japan has less crime, but that doesn't mean that the country has absolutely no crime. It doesn't mean that the country has a perfect society. It just means that for various reasons - cultural, social, economical - there is less crime. I consider it a positive thing, but there is no way anyone could use that information to convince me that Japan is a perfect country that is superior to every other in every way.

However, that is pretty much what you are saying.

There was relatively little looting after the earthquake and tsunami. Great. But that doesn't mean there was NO looting and no crime. It doesn't mean that there are no bad people in Japan who would take advantage of others and their suffering.

Nothing is black and white. There is no all good or all bad country or culture. I live in Japan because I prefer the country, but that doesn't mean that I believe it to be a happy heaven of peace and prosperity.

I never said there is no crime and no looting.

But I do not compare things with each other, which couldn't be any further apart. CAUSE THATS WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE DOING HERE EVERY SINGLE TME!!

If you would know what happened after Katrina struck and what happens every single day in our World..

and then come up with posting something like this what JohnBraden posted which was two sentences long, or a Riot which happened 30 years ago, then this is a joke and immensly disrespectful to the Japanese people.

I do not compare apples with oranges either!

I value things up first and what I see is that Japan must be superior and that there people must be very different, because of the things like this and what I see every day, day in and day out in our World.

But in your eyes we are all the same.. yea well, we are not as you CAN SEE!!


All I am asking for is that you accept this huge difference and that you appreciate their culture for what it is! A World with almost no crime and almost no people killing each other every single day!!


Just accept that their society stands for something better and don't refuse to see the obvious all the time!!

Well technically some things are black and white,like some rare people are very definitely bad and some rare people are very definitely good,but that's going off topic,I agree about the rest and I know what you mean about the culture thing. A lot of countries get gender and race wrong.

Traffic rules are nice. They outline how everybody reacts in any situation, so that everybody will know how the others behave even from a distance. It's better for everybody to behave within set expectations all the time, also when alone just in case somebody you don't see yet is relying on you to be predictable and feel safe. When somebody reacts differently and unexpectedly, there will be bad things, like loud noises and then somebody's suddenly gone.

Now, did everyone get the creepies from that (and why, do you disagree?)?

It's a nice dream - for traffic. But I feel the idea has been imported to Japanese society, and that sucks. It has questionable benefits and no place in societies, just like corporate capitalism has absolutely no place doing societal economics.

And yes, I also detest jumping to straws. I read about a hundred scientists studying global warming (not a troll, do NOT grab it!) and agreeing on a set of data. When one scientist does not, the newspapers scream "IT WAS ALL A LIE!". Err, no. The one case does not negate hundred others that showed the opposite.

I can accept that Japanese culture is very different to that of most western countries but I do not accept that it is better. From a western perspective I think there's a lot about Japanese culture that we could learn from but I also think there's a lot the Japanese could learn from western culture. I had dinner last Saturday night with 3 Japanese friends. All 3 have decided to live in Australia and all 3 do not wish to return to live in Japan. One already has permanent residency here. They much prefer life here in Australia to life in Japan. And I prefer life in Japan to life here in Australia!

Whether one culture or society is 'better' than another is purely a personal, subjective thing. It is not some sort of absolute like you are trying to make it out to be.

We all know that you have an irrational love of everything Japan. No need to continually harp on about it.

I am reading a very interesting book "Embracing Defeat" by John Dower.

It is about the aftermath of the Pacific War and Japan in particular.

It is very detailed. I recommend it to anyone who is interested in the emergence of Japan folowing the surrender.


I have been shocked by the way the women suffered. The blackmarket in goods-- so many japanese were starving after the war and forced to play blackmarket prices in efforts to survive----- many children living on the streets-- with nobody caring about them, Ueno Station seemed to be a place where they hung out. Seeing photos of children wearing a box with the ashes of their parents hanging round their necks.

I doubt many ENglish people are remotely aware of the suffering in Japan. I certainly was not.

So few are aware of the firebombing---------. Yes there was looting beca\use how else to survive?


It seems that when soldiers did return they often were shunned once the civilan population learned about the atrocities many had committed.

Did they still have shellshock? Did they have the same problems like my Granddad had?

get the book and find out.

The firebombing campaign was horrendous, it accounted for more death and destruction that both Nagisaki and Horishima combined. 100,000 were killed in Tokyo in one night. The firestorm was so intense the wind comeing out of the city caused such turbolence that it actually knocked one of the American bombers out of the sky.

looting

You know Ryzorian I never knew about that until my Japanese friend told me-- since then I have been doing alot of research-- Most people I know assume that Nagasaki and Hiroshima were the only places bombed Atomic Bomb, but the way so many cities were firebombed was absolutely appalling. I certainly never knew-- which is why I like to learn more by reading and dvd's that I have etc.

In fact in this country-- apart from those who had been affected by the Pacific war here in UK-- there was hardly anymention about the Pacific war-- we used to celebrate VJ day but I for one did not know what it meant. Until we heard about the atrocities committed on POWS--French/ Australian/ \\dutch/ British and the americans etc.. I never even knew why our troops were involved at all. Many remember the atrocities committed--when I read Surviving the Sword it was appalling.

so many Japanese people did suffer terribly-- so it is a miracle how they recovered.

I like to learn from history. I try to see both sides.

The book I am reading refers mostly to the americans-- but there were the other countries also involved.

It seems the japanese soldiers were often treated terribly by their own commanders.


Amazon.com: Embracing Defeat: Japan in the Wake of World War II (9780393046861): John W. Dower: Books

American mutilation of Japanese war dead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Might is right.ヽ（´ー｀）ﾉ

I think we can all agree that war brings out the worst in everyone.

But why post it in this thread? It's gone from looting to firebombing to the mutilation of Japanese soldiers in a mere 4 pages!

It's the old game of telephone brought to a new age....:)

Because the original topic wasn't boring enough.

Siokan; the US and Japan went at each other full measure, it was ugly all around. Both sides did horrible things to each other. However, I think it also helped us see each other more clearly. We both saw what we were willing to do, what we were willing to endure, and what we were willing to sacrifice for our cause.

Dogsbody70; They wanted cities as yet unmared by the firebombing, it's why they chose the ones they did, though I think one was a secondary target in case the primary was clouded over. That way they could 1, see what type of damage the weapon itself did and 2, demonstrate to Japan's leaders that same message.

we all live it the same world, but as we are all located in different places, we have different perceptions and beliefs. :) We must all live in peace and integrity. lololol