Why aren't brown people "cool" in Japan
 

I saw japanese girls with blacks, I saw japanese women with caucasians. but not a single brown person with an asian. why aren't we cool enough for asian women? this is something I have noticed with other asians too (chinese especially).

I am now on a bodybuilding program and I am learning Japanese just to get myself a japanese chica for my next trip to japan. but it would suck if they still rejected me just because I am brown

I seen Japanese/Chinese/Asian in general with Mexican. Both are heavy populations in my hometown.


I think it could be more of you than your skin color in the end, and as a girl, if a guy was on bodybuild in I would think he is a bit full of himself. I think just slight maintenance is good enough for a lot of girls.

Mexicans aren't the same type of brown as indians and middle-easterners. Latin-Americans are always seen as cool, like the blacks.

You say you don't like bodybuilding now, but what will you say when I send you half-naked pictures of my muscled up body in a year or two?

First of all...I think your skin color has nothing to do with this, it's all about your personality and how you approach the girl and how you treat her.

And besides I've seen MANY brown\asian couples here in Edmonton.

No, I really dont like body building. Semi-athletic is okay, but being all muscular actually turns me off. I hate guys that look too into themselves.

I have seen less Middle-Eastern/Indian couples, but its still a possibility. In the end, however, don't use anything but your personality as an excuse why people wont give one a chance. (This goes for everyone in the end. Sure culture differences are a barrier, but it takes a cool person to convince someone to look past that, not your looks.)

From my experience, most Japanese girls are actually not into guys that do bodybuilding. They prefer the slim and more "feminine" style on guys. Most girls like guys that are slim and in "good shape", but not muscle packed ones. So if you have a couple of extra pounds you better lose them instead of packing on muscle.

Anyway, the whole thing has to do with status in society. Black people are cool because they are funny and "rappers" as seen in the media. White people are cool because they are seen as having powerful positions in the media. In Japan, a lot of brown people (not indians) do "lower" jobs such factory work, that may have to do with it.

Anyway, I agree with the above. Your skin color has very little to do with if you can pick up a girl. Yes, it does play a role, but it's a very minor one. And the girls for who skin colors matters aren't worth it anyway.

The British media tries to make out that Japanese women think like the people making it do. There was a Doctor Who Magazine comic strip a while back and it was set in Japan and this mother was saying her son was ''obsessed with violent cartoons''! Doctor Who is still not great when it comes to race.

I would not be surprised at all if Japanese women liked feminine men. There just seems to be a few people in Japan who's true nature comes out when they meet a white man talking about this stuff[well occasionally another ethnicity] and they start talking about how ''men aren't macho'' anymore.

I suppose it does boil down to personality to a point. I'm gonna try to be interesting enough that they don't just have a relationship with me,they actually can see past race but you might encounter them preferring white people. Sadly they like whiteness over there. It's a country where wearing brown face paint is still considered A-OK.

Of course,still perservere because the world,particularly Japan needs diversifying and making more interesting.

That might be part of it, whiteness is seen as a positive in Japan. Not "caucasian" persay, it's the color white in and off itself. I don't know why, has some historical or relgious thing about it.

attractiveness
 

Seems, nobody likes "extra pounds"! :D

Is that so? I was unaware of that, are you sure?

If I ever went to japan, I would seriously have no clue how people would react to my nationality...

Back then in Japan, if you had tan skin, it meant you were an outside worker and a peasant. If you had very light skin, it generally meant you were indoors often, and most likely had high status in society. This goes with a lot of countries, but Japan does seem to emphasize on it a lot. Although the ganguro girls...ehhhh....

But either way, if your personality outshines your physical appearance, you can get any girl you want I believe.

I like what you said OsakaBlue,,,
I couldn't pass by this topic in the discussion, i really want to know as much as I can about japan before I get there and this topic took a tight grip on my wrist and pulled me in....:)
honestly saying,,, reading the topic, I now want to go more then ever...
I smell a challenge,,,,,

What kind of a half assed observation is this?

Perhaps the brown people you saw were on their way to meet their girlfriend. Or perhaps they weren't interested in asian women or perhaps they were gay.

Judging from all of your posts so far, I think it's clearly obvious that it's your attitude - not your personal appearance that has to change.

hi there. :) maybe it is upon the person's culture, but on some, it depends. :) It's either they have chosen it, or they were persuaded. lol. :) but for me, as an asian woman, it depends. :)

Coming from an internationally-brought up Japanese girl's point of view, nationality isn't much of a problem. Japanese girls focus more on personality than looks or skin color- there aren't many "good-looking" men. If a caucasian and a mexican with nearly the same personality were to approach a Japanese girl, maybe she would choose the caucasian, but that would be preference. People don't have the same personality and their likes/dislikes vary. I've seen lots of Mexican&Japanese couples at ICU.

Bodybuilding isn't really that popular in Japan, working out a bit is okay but most girls would just be scared o-o;
I think you should fix your personality first, before changing your appearance. You shouldn't classify people/yourself solely by race. Your racist arrogance might be what's preventing you from getting a girl.

Or you can follow the advice of a T- shirt I saw in the mall. "The more I learn about women, the more I love my car".

I'm not that interested in cars though. I'll get one,I mean I have to,but if I was in Taiwan I'd get a motorbike.

It's ment more as a joke. In essence the car doesn't have "feelings" you can hurt, nor need to be told you love it or given flowers or feel that you need it. Car's won't get jelous if you ride in another car, won't complain if you don't change it's tires every month.

I was waiting for something like this. I wouldn't go for such an attitude (if I were a girl... ._.)
And why does it have to be a Japanese one instead of any other nationality?

Because we want them to be nice? I mean,that's not to say any other nationality wouldn't be nice but you wouldn't always find them depending on what kind of area you were in.

Haii kayciii, hope you're doing good!!! .. and .. blah-blah-blah your post sucks.

You give advice for personality and say "it takes a cool person to convince someone to look past that, not your looks" but..you automatically "hate guys that look too into themselves".

Some "personality!" lol

Maybe he doesn't want a girl who automatically hates people because how they look?

I know very nice people who work out consistently and also people who don't that are irritable, ornery, and rude people.

To automatically dislike someone for how they look is the *exact* thing he is talking about.

Agree. I believe it's hard though because guys are so visual. We automatically want to work on muscles, or a new car, or new clothes to attract girls and while important: personality (attitude, character, the "vibe" you give off) and connection are the most important.

I want to take over the world, car's are optional.

You would be more right, if you did not assume the same thing about me. I know plenty of guys who work out, have a buff body, without looking like they are too into themselves. And its kind of obvious, the way the original poster, that he is. Turn off.


But blah blah, you must be stalking me if you really must know about me...;]

First ask yourself this question: Why does it have to be Japanese?

Girls can easily sense it when someone approach them with the wrong intention. There are definitely girls that looks for a fling of some sort, and will be more open to physical relationship with strangers, but these girls are not common, not in Japan anyways. You may find a few in bigger cities, but as Nyororin pointed out previously, these girls get passed around by foreigners. In Chinese, we call loose girls like these as "Public Bathroom"

Anyways, Japanese girls appreciate people, especially foreigner to approach them for the "right" reason. Right or wrong is a point of view, but in general, people tend to adhere by what is socially acceptable. Open sexual relationship is not socially acceptable in Japan, as such, if you walk in with just the intention to get lucky, that will not work.

Sorry, if I missed a message which explained the situation between Caucasians and the Japanese.

So what is the situation? Are white people hated in Japan? Are we seen as some kind of racists.. or "colonialists" or as something negative? I would find that hard to believe, because every Japanese face I have seen has this ^_^ smile on their face. :D Always snapping photoes in the capital city, Helsinki. But I am asking this because I would love to go to Japan in about 2 years and experience its awesomeness in every single way. I would hate if I was seen as some kind of ...bad..guy..(?)

And are white/asian couples seen somehow disgusting or ..tradition-breakingly-not-nice... eh..(??)

Most foreigners are welcome in Japan, but not seen as some kind of saints like forum users believe. You will not be treated a free meal because you are caucasian. You may get a few stares at more rural cities, only because caucasians are rare in those part and people find it odd to see a "gaijin" there, but it definitely not the stare of hatred.

unless you run into some extreme group - Say, yakuza for examples, otherwise you will be save. Some Yakuza group still have that mentality of driving out the foreigners...

Anyways, start a new thread if you want to discuss further.

You mean trying to get buff in plans for a return trip to get lucky?

This kind of people makes me sick,they go to a foreign country, then their only drive to return is from between their legs. They go home and start planning out how to get lucky on the next visit.

People like these should catch HIV and die a painful death...

That's too harsh. He hasn't called anyone gay,he hasn't shot anyone,he hasn't killed anyone.

Oh well, maybe this will help a few individuals to start thinking like human than some jungle animals.

That thought is not any better than the actions you described......

I've no idea what you're talking about here, there are lots of Asian men here, many of whom have Japanese wives. They've just as much chance with the Japanese as any other exotic foreign folk.

That being said there is a slight stereotype in Japan against Asians due to Iranians being a major immigrant group here, often staying illegally and so working dodgy black market jobs and...yeah.
Being strictly muslim is also a bit off putting for many Japanese people, but then the same goes for christians.
That being said the Japanese seem to quite like Indians.

Wow most of these posts are totally ignorant...I see nothings really changed here!

So wat if I was born of white parents and a skin disease change my pigments to make me look brown/black & a japanese person is only dating me cause of my skin, only to find out I'm actually caucasian?

If ur only goal is to "bag a japanese chick" no wonder why u haven't. Or any female ethnicity at all!

Alright,don't get your knickers in a twist! :p

I suppose we all have some people we really hate. They are bad guys I suppose.

Not wanting to get too involved in this conversation buuut,

I did notice a certain trend the last few times I've been in Tokyo. The guys who I saw in workout clothes, carrying gym bags, with a very body conscious stockier muscled physique were for the most part gay. (hanging out in groups with similar looking guys in the gay neighborhood) I'm not saying this was only a part of the gay subculture but that is where I noticed it most.

Most of the straight guys seem to conform to what the fashionable city girls like in a guy - a slim build that can wear fashion and look good with them. Most of the other heavily muscled guys I saw were either construction workers or yaks. That association could be a turn off? I am sure there are Japanese women that like a heavily muscled guy.

I am sure if a girl is "easy" enough she will say she likes your build no matter what you look like, but that's true anywhere.

I don't hate the person, I don't hate anyone on this forum.. I disagree with the mentality, and I disagree with how people view Asian women as nothing more than a sexual object... I already voiced this out in my other post, our people is not some kind of free meat.

No girls would want to hang out with a guy if she sense nothing but a sexual desire from him.... .. except for a few, who, in most cases, will be referred as "Slut" in many different cultures....

Ah. Now I see what you mean,that is a serious thing. I personally see no link between perversity and sexism but I do really hate sexism with a vengeance. You might think that's a contradiction,but I want my girlfriend to be doing most of the flirting. I can't flirt for long periods of time and I wasn't built for this. Although I can see that it is a dangerous game.

lmfao
It's the same dude that opened the thread about buying sex in Japan.

Seriously, the OP is probably Sitron, a user who was banned a few months ago.

He was someone with the same low self esteem, always starting threads about picking up girls, buying sex in Japan, etc.

And yes, he was brown as well.

Not even a self esteem issue. people can have low self esteem and can still think like a human being.

He is not getting any respect because he shows no respect, in this particular case, no respect to Japanese woman. His criteria is simple - just any Hot Sexy Japanese girl... he thought about paying for it, because he figured thats option 2.. his only desire with a japanese women is purely physical.....

To my point, why should anyone respect a dirt bag like this? Go hide in a corner and rot away...

If you truly believe he has "low self esteem" then why not try to positively encourage him rather than kick him in the gut if he is in a bad place in life?

Negative reinforcement rarely works.

lol. You don't hate anyone in this forum but yet want certain people to get HIV and die a painful death? You don't hate him but call him a dirt bag and wish he rots?

I've seen many posts from you venting your frustrations. You seem to have some issues you need to take care of offline. I'm not sure whats going on in your life but when someone says just because someone wants to "get lucky" with a girl they don't come off as an emotionally secure or happy person. This punishment is in gross disproportion to the "crime".

Reminds me of a quote: Most people can barely manage their own life but are more than happy to try to help you run yours.

I feel a thread lock coming!! lol