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I have traveled to many different countries. As a Black man, from the USA, I have been treated okay. However, I have noticed during my travels and while living in the United States that Asian woman, particularly Japanese woman, are not friendly in general towards Black men. Why is that? I have been told that Japanese ladies put White European and North American men on a pedestal and that they treat them like Gods. In return, a lot of Asian woman end up been treated like a second class citizen because the Caucasian man feels that he can do no wrong. Asian woman end up being battered and abused. Not wanting to admit to themselves and their families that the "god" they have married is not a prince in shining armor, they stay in the marriage although being miserable. SURELY, this is not the case in all Asian Woman/ Caucasian men marriages but it is problem. There are many "successful" marriages. However, the marriage is a success because the Asian lady stay in the shadows and don't demand to be respected and be an equal. This is my observation and opinion. You can count on one hand, how many Japanese ladies are married to Black men from any country, not just the USA. If an Asian lady is reading this, she will have to admit that a lot of what I said is true. That's if she is honest. I have nothing against Caucasian men. Its not there fault that the stereotype exists in their favor. They are just reaping the benefits of the stereotype while the Asian male is seen for the most part as not been "adequate enough", sitting on the sidelines as more and more Asian ladies find themselves living in a fantasy world. Tell me what you think. Before you become upset and going on the defensive, look at the facts.

What facts?

You've just given us your experiences and interpreted them as being representative of reality.

I would be careful comparing Japanese people and Japanese Americans. Completely different.

I might be able to agree with you about Japanese Americans harbouring negative sentiments towards black people but that's only because those irrational sentiments are spread across all Americans to some degree (even those that openly reject such ways of seeing black people are at least familiar with the stereotypes).

But Japanese women in Japan, I cannot even guess what the general feeling is. But my experiences say the opposite of yours.

When I was an exchange student in Japan, one of the most popular exchange students on campus was an American who was black (and ESPECIALLY with women).

I also have a friend who is dating a Canadian who is black.

Though on the other hand... the most black people I've seen in Japan are Africans who stand outside strip clubs in Roppongi trying to get you to visit their brother/strip club.

So who knows what the truth is....

Just don't let stuff like that get to you dude!

Assholes are assholes no matter what the colour of their skin. :)

I think a lot of men use race (among other things) as an excuse on why they can't get a girl. It can't be that your personality isn't what she's looking for, it has to be because the women are racist. Even women who do have a racial preference will date a man off their "no dating" list if there is enough chemistry.

I couldn't disagree with you more.

I think conceptions of race hinder the way in which people view others and even in the way people view themselves and they are very real.

This includes dating.

"Even women who do have a racial preference will date a man off their "no dating" list if there is enough chemistry"

Bullsh*t. This is just something that racists say in order to soften their prejudice.

Well I guess I'm a racist who's softening the prejudice to her husband of 4 years.

No... you're a former racist who overcame your former prejudice to marry someone you love. (i.e. the result of circumstance and the exception not the rule.)

Unless you're saying that you still have those prejudices....

In which case you're married to someone you don't really love.

So having a preference equals racism and having prejudices to you? I would agree if I said I would never date a certain race but to say I prefer another race I don't consider it racism. Like someone preferring a taller guy, women with larger breasts, blue eyes, blonde hair, a car hobby, skill in the kitchen.

Let's say I had a preference of blue men over red men. I would date a nice red man before giving a mean blue man the time of day. But if I saw both men out on the street and I had 2 seconds to check a guy out I would probably check the blue man out. If that's racism I think this world is getting way too sensitive and I will happily shout out my so called racism.

And yes I still do have those "prejudices". If my husband and I were to split (knock on wood) I would still prefer blue men to red men. Doesn't make me love my husband any less though.

Yes.. though if it makes you feel any better I'm friends with a lot of racists in this sense and in no way do I put it on the same level as hateful racism. It's ignorant racism. Ignorant because it's ultimately based on unfounded and irrational assumptions.

As for your husband... I cannot comment on your relationship dynamic. But if you can imagine someone who could make you happier well... I'm just going to say it's not an ideal relationship for me.

Also.. I want to add that it's not quite the same as superficial attraction to physical features.

Race is not a physical feature. It's a psychological condition based on physical features.

I've heard that Japanese women lust after Black men because they're "exotic".
I've heard that Japanese women prefer White men because White skin is "exotic".
I've heard that Japanese women don't like Black men.
I've heard that Japanese women really don't prefer anyone but Japanese.
I've heard that you're tired of reading someone typing "I've heard" excessively...

To be honest, this is true. There are a lot of arguments made for the sake of "feeling good", whether it be from Black men that wish they could get Japanese girls like Whites and other races can, or from non-Blacks that want to be PC, have "guilt" for being able to succeed when Blacks can't, or just want to be friendly. Many of these arguments take exceptions to the rue and blow them out of proportion. The fact is that statistically, most Japanese girls get with Japanese guys.

When it comes to just getting some tang as a gaijin or girls that girl for foreigners, tall, blonde-haired, blue-eyed White men are the alpha males. Black men are probably at the bottom of the list, particularly if you are dark-skinned, not tall, and not a hip-hopper going for hip-hop chicks. it is very painful, but it's the truth. If you are a Black man that wants to have fun with women like other gaijin can, you're not going to have a good time in Japan. If you want a relationship, things will be even worse because your girl will face the possibility of being disowned by their parents and society, you will always be seen as an outcast, people will label you criminal, STD-carrying, etc. You can try to "educate" the Japanese people otherwise, but you'll be wasting your breath. Japan just ain't the type of place that Black people want to go to.

I call bullsh*t.

Japan is a country of 150 million people.

Of course there are women that won't date a black man for the reasons you've listed... but I would say that for the most part, they're the kind of women that won't date a white man or even another Asian for the same reasons.

On the other hand there women that I know that will happily date a black man and a few of them actually do.

check this video out. It's spot on: Do Black men have it easier with Japanese women?

There are exceptions to rules, but in GENERAL, Japanese women are not particularly fond of Black men. I know that there are Japanese women that would go for Black men, but these woemn are a scarcity, especially outside of hip-hop clubs. Black men that don't exhibit hip-hop qualities will have a very difficult time landing a female since hiphop and sports are about the only things Blacks are seen to offer.

Well it's simply your perception (which sound like it's come from Roppongi) vs mine

I don't think there is any way we can settle this once and for all unless one of us carried out a statistical and scientific survey of Japanese women and their opinions on dating.

I'm not even saying that the people you describe don't exist. I'm just willing to bet that most of them won't date a white person for being white either.

Anyway... at the end of the day, in the world outside Roppongi, Japanese women mostly prefer and go for Japanese men. That is undeniable.

You, just like the OP, have zero evidence to support this other than your own experiences. I lived in Japan for 7 years, and I can tell you that the only place I hear theories like this is on the internet. Never have I heard a Japanese girl talk, or exhibit behavior saying she would not date someone because they are Black. In addition, when I was in college I had classes with serval Black guys taking Japanese, and we all were friends with many of the Japanese exchange students, and all of the Black guys consistently had J-girlfriends.

So unless you have some valid statistics to go on, it is your experiences vs mine, and I am betting my experience with Japan and Japanese people is far more extensive than yours.

It's funny that this person, "cultured" or not, has yet to say a thing after starting this thread.... This wouldn't be thr first time someone like him has done this....

It doesn't really matter does it?

I personally think the resulting discussion itself is more important rather than the people behind the discussion.

But that's my opinion.

Statistics can be manipulated to tell any story. I'm friends with a black person that lives in Japan on YouTube and he said that if people won't go for you,it's just because you're not Japanese,there is no bias between black,white,anything.

I saw Japan had the best quality of life in Asia,I think in terms of racial tolerance,which I know isn't the world but it is something. It is also the most expensive country in the world.

Just as I expected; more fluff. I strongly believe that there will come a time that people openly acknowledge that Japanese women have a strong preference for White men and that Black men are at a major disadvantage (just about anywhere in the world really). For there to be real progress, this time must come soon, and it is my mission to bring it about by any means necessary.

The fact of the matter is that Blacks generally aren't seen in a positive light by other races, and it is a waste of time to try to change it. Instead, Black folks must live with it and change ourselves (ie, stop trying to integrate where we are not wanted and stop supporting businesses of the people that hate us). I strongly discourage Black men from going to Japan, especially if it's Japanese women that you want. Other races generally get away with it because they bring something to the table for Japanese girls; outside of hip-hop, Blacks are seen as worthless. I'm saying this for the OP and any other brothers and sisters that may come across this page. It hurts, but it's time for Black folks to get stern if you want to survive as a people.

Wow, what a bunch of crap.... Go ahead, discourage people from going to Japan based on your erroneous ideas. That means I won't have to deal with people like you there....

Just because you can't get a relationship with someone from Japan doesn't mean they're all against you. Maybe you should look at yourself for the reason. You're beginning to sound like a few other people who were on here for a bit who couldn't get laid and blamed it on their skin.... "Oh, they don't like brown people there", etc.... what a crock....

Nobody is saying that racism doesn't exist in Japan you f*cking moron.

All I'm saying is that the idea that it's as widespread as you're making it out to be is bullsh*t.

I will not say that I met tons of black people in Japan, but I never met one who could not get a girlfriend, or was not married to a Japanese. Maybe it is time you accepted the fact that the problem is probably you, and not your skin color. Not everyone is a big hit with girls man... and this phenomenon extends across all races, sorry but is just the way it goes.

I'm not entirely sure if this is true, as each individual may have different experiences. However, i guess it's likely for such situations to occur. Given the fact that Japanese people aren't used to encounter black individuals that offten in their society.

Not sure if it may come off as something "Weird" or "Confusing" to them, but i guess that it's the absence ( Not saying it's frequent ) of black people in their country, that makes contact with them, something to avoid.

Like i said, each person will experience different things. My experiences may not be your experiences.

It's not JUST my skin color, you're right. I'm not a very good-looing guy, but the thing is ugly guys of other races pull chicks in Japan. These guys are known as the "Charisma Men", I believe? Thus, race is an issue. Japan values blonde hair and blue eyes as extremely beautiful, so being ugly and Black is a major disadvantage, while being ugly and White means that dudes can still do well; their ugliness is often offset by the fact that they are white and white is beautiful. As I've said: if you're Black and dark-skinned, you'd better be tall, into hip-hop 9chasing hip-hop girls), good-looking, and maybe rich while a White guy can be fat, short, balding, and poor; the image of his race benefits him. Life is not fair, and that's just the way it is.

Fine, life isn't fair....deal with it. But your way of dealing with it is to blame an entire country of bigotry because you don't find yourself attractive enough to "score" a Japanese girlfriend. Grow up, will you?

This is how I deal with it. People should be informed. I don't have any reason to serve my adversaries except for fear of force, and in general, blacks just aren't as welcomed in Japan as other races are, aside from women. Even if I were a good-looking Black guy, I'd be tiers below good-looking Whites, Hispanics, etc., and probably even tiers below bad-looking ones. This is what my entire life has to offer, and this is how I choose to deal with it since WROL is not yet upon us.

Continue you self-deprecating views and you'll get nowhere.... Worse still, you might be one of those who end up on the 10 o'clock news after shooting up a store of some kind because you are unhappy with the cards you've been dealt and find you need to take it out on someone....

If you can't find any redeeming quality within you and all you see is what the mirror reflects, then I'd suggest you get professional help. This is definitely not a healthy way to live your life....

....and stop thinking about Japan as a vacation destination of any kind....

I don't think about Japan as any destination and I discourage it as a destination for Black people. I also discourage interaction with japs or other races. Blacks that still want to survive and think that they can enjoy life should separate from other races; I'm here because living amongst only Blacks doesn't appeal to me and I anted to address the concerns of the OP and any other Blacks that may have the same question.

Hey, life isn't fair. We all have to deal with the cards we are dealt. I post on the Internet because I have no intention of breaking the law. For those that have, well, life isn't fair for those that lost their either.

Now you're using the "n" word when it comes to Japanese people. Fine, be that way. My dealings with you and people like you end here.... Have a life, moron!

The reality is that attractiveness is not measurable.

I will agree to an extent that conceptions of race does have some impact on some people at some level. (It's why academically, racism can be defined broadly as simply the belief in race)

But it's a bit more complex than "Japanese women don't like black guys"

Because the overall reality is that it just depends on the woman.

And there are MANY women in Japan that will date a black guy.

How ignorant.

You're every bit as racist as you imagine Japanese people to be.

That's the way it ought to be. I don't believe in that liberal egalitarian nonsense anymore, or even the conservative "pull yourself up by your bootstraps". If people are racist towards you it is only natural and fair to be racist against them. Being the "bigger man" simply means having more force on your side to get your way, not turning the other cheek to gamble on a heaven that probably doesn't exist.

Here's an out of the blue question that might shed some light, or not. RustyBlackleford. They have maped several DNA sequences and thus far have shown that whites and asians have anywhere from 1 to 4% Neanderthal DNA while Africans, and I mean from the continant that havent been mixed yet. have none.

Is it possible that the DNA markers presuppose, on a subconcious level, who would be attracted to who? Perhaps that explains why Asians and caucasians intermix more easily than blacks and whites or asians an blacks?

It is quite possible. DNA probably explains why Blacks have not been able to independently build or maintain high-tech societies like Whites and Asians. Whether it is society, genetic, or societal based on genetics, facts are facts and they hurt regardless of the reasons why. If the reason is genetics-based, then that means that there is absolutely no point in trying to change things. It doesn't behoove Blacks to even try to intermix with people that generally do not want us.

That doesn't explain why I'm attracted to Japanese girls though, sine they have different genetics. Maybe it's a subconscious desire to have superior offspring? I like them because I find them attractive, and I hate them because they don't find me attractive. sure, it may sound like whinging, but it is what it is and I am within my rights. My solution is to just leave them alone since they want nothing to do with me and watching whites, latinos, etc have fun when i can't just adds more misery to my life, and makes the white man's victory even sweeter for him (I've read and listened to numerous conversations where White guys love the fact that they can get Japanese girls easily AND the Japanese dislike Blacks).

Oh great... It's dumb and dumber. :cool:

Thread closed. Take the racist banter elsewhere.