It's been 70 years since
 

May those fallen Americans rest in peace. Never forget history.

And what about all the others? Curious way of expressing yourself on a Japanese-oriented forum....

RIP to the American sailors and servicemen (my heart goes out to the Black ones especially) that died during the Pearl Harbor attack. we'll pay tribute to Hiroshima and Nagasaki next time those anniversaries come along. Hell, many of the servicemen of WW2 ended up getting Japanese war brides (the White and Hispanic ones did, at least).

When Nyororin told you to take your racist banter elsewhere, I'm sure she meant "away from this forum"....

You just don't quit do you?

It is a noteworthy anniversary, and no one can deny that it was Japan that shed the first blood, and so began a conflict which consumed multiple nations and led to the deaths of millions of people.

My grandfather was a soldier serving in the Pacific during the war, he had joined the Army in 1933 when he was only 15 years old. After December 7th, his troop of 52 soldiers was sent to the Philippines. By the end of the war, only two remained alive.

No one should forget what happened on December 7th, 1941. I am surprised there aren't more posts on this thread, but then again, it was a long time ago. Before long people will will forget what happened, and the suffering which occurred, increasing the likelihood that it will happen again at another place and time.

I think many don't post simply to refrain from stirring up trouble on a Japananese forum. I remember, I had a great uncle who was a bomber piolet.

RustyBlackleford, perhaps your problems lie more in your own self admonishment and less about what race you come from? Your a part of the Human race, be you, not a color or a cliche'.

Agreed with your first paragraph, and given the posting history of many people here and other japan-themed forums, I think that many of them believe in the Greater Asian Copropperity Sphere or whatever it's called and praise the Japanese for bombing Pearl Harbor. Had a former friend like that in real life. I acknowledge the history and loss of life. As a Black man, I have a bias in favor of my own people, especially knowing that most people belittle us.

Eternal glory to the brave japanese soldiers! They fought against American imperialism.

we must never forget what happened EVER!!!

trouble is that memories are too short or disinterest in the past means same mistakes repeated eternally.


I could remind the Japanese; who also wished to dominate other countries. Leaders of the Imperial Army Perhaps? Even the Emperor?

Not only Hitler who wanted to dominate the rest of the world. What happened in Vietnam is a dreadful reminder of how Countries will destroy human beings and Land--Have any of you read John Pilgers books? They are eye openers?

Vietnam was France's problem that somehow became America's. I think somebody pulled a fast one there.

pretorius; America is no more imperialist than anybody else has been through the centuries. They just happen to be very good at it presently. Sooner or later somebody else will come along and tell you what to do instead of us, or Russia, or Germany or Britain, or Rome or Babylon or Persia. I mean really, this list could go on for days.

The Japanese soldiers were brave enough, but they weren't fighting against American imperialism, they were fighting for Japanese imperialism. I suppose you don't remember that at the time of WW2, Japan called itself an "empire", and the Japanese army was formally called the "Imperial Japanese Army" (or I.J.A. for short). It makes sense that an army so-named probably belongs to an imperialistic government. In Japan there is no eternal glory for the Japanese soldiers, and even today young Japanese avoid serving in the self defense forces because it is not thought of as an honorable profession.

All lands conquered by the Japanese were conquered in the name of the emperor. Like Hitler's Germany, Japan conquered, looted, and shipped back to Japan anything of value which they could find. The East Indies were conquered for their oil fields, Malaysia was conquered for it's tin, rubber, and quinine. Manchuria was conquered for it's natural resources. Rather than pay for the labor to recover these resources, Japan enslaved several hundreds of thousands of people. More than 100,000 of these slaves died during the building of the Thailand/Burma railroad alone. Countless more died in other wartime projects.

At first, the native peoples of the parts of Asia who were controlled by the British and the Dutch welcomed the Japanese. This feeling was short-lived. The Japanese enslaved or killed outright the Chinese which they found in Malaysia and other places. All Asians with tattoos were likewise killed (to this day Japanese still distrust anyone with tattoos). Native people were paid for their work with Japanese "monopoly" money, which was worth less than the paper it was printed on. Industries and farms in the conquered lands faltered, because their products and food were simply stolen rather than being paid for. Starvation of the native peoples became rampant, and it wasn't long before these natives began working with the Allies to destroy the Japanese.

It was the ultimate irony that Japan itself ended up being conquered by America. But what went around came around.

All conquests are justified. I know Japanese nationalists that claim that they were fighting White imperialism, yet they are now elated to have White men romping through their country. They were fighting for Japanese imperialism; fighting against White colonial powers is just a byproduct of this. Not saying that they were "wrong"; all people should fight for their own, but those with power of course will say that it's OK for them to do things while it's "immoral" for others to do it back or to defend themselves. The American Right is notorious for this.

As a white man, what would you call me if I said the same thing?

I'd call you lucky. The liberals might call you a racist, yes. Conservatives will call me a racist. The fact is that different races have different interests, thus there will be conflict when radically-different races come into contact. I wish I were White so I could stand up for myself and be rewarded, but unfortunately I am Black. I'll still stand up for myself, but I expect to lose.

surely variety is the spice of life and we were made to suit the environment in which we were likely to live--

Animals come in many colours--- they are beautifully arrayed in natures colours and designs.

We should all be glad to be who we are-- but also rejoice in the variety around the world and embrace each other. How mundane a world it would be if we were all the same type and colour.

It is individuals that matter to me--not their race or colour.

In the past there has been too much discrimination and advantages taken of those from other lands-- it has been appalling the way many have been used and abused.

In the year 2011 surely we know enough to appreciate everyone and treat each as an individual.

Britain had its Empire-- Heaven Knows. I doubt many nations are pure and innocent.

I still am shocked when I learn of the horrors of war and how easily normal human beings can be transformed into monsters. so easily controlled by those who begin these wars.

My heart goes out to the way the Vietnamese were attacked in dreadful ways.

I hate all wars. Do they ever solve Anything?

I hate wars because my people are generally the losers or if we are fighting for some other race (like Black American GIs), we rarely reap the full benefits of victory like Whites and other races do.

Wars do solve problems for the winners (not necessarily the nations themselves, but the big powers of the nations); they may cause a lot of other problems, but wars and violence DO in fact solve problems, contrary to leftist belief.

No, you'd call me a racist. And you'd be right. Different races have different interests only if they are interested in their own race. There is no need for conflict when races "come into contact" if race is not an issue. I come into contact with different races daily. There is no competition or conflict as we are not concerned with skin color, only humanity.

Maybe I would call you racist, but I wouldn't call you "immoral". I would hate you, but that's because you are my enemy. Blacks and liberals complain about racism because we are the losers; non-Blacks and conservatives complain about "reverse" racism because they want to maintain their power and demoralize the competition (it's in Art of War).

Race is an issue and probably always will be. Looks are important in this world, and certain races are deemed better-looking. You should know this living in Japan where there is a heavy emphasis on aesthetic beauty, and height, blonde-hair and blue eyes are champion. Race also has an effect on a variety of things such as health problems, reaction to climate, and maybe even innate character and intelligence.

You would call me racist and hate me for doing the exact same thing you are doing.

I am your enemy because I am white? What basis for a war is that? That makes as much sense for hating someone because of the color of their hair or how tall they are or what city they happen to be born in. Why would you hate someone for something they have no control over and cannot change. Isn't that an extreme waste of energy?

Race has an effect on intelligence? I'd like to see some evidence to back that up.

Exactly. Conservatives and Whites hate Blacks for hating them when they hated us. White guys get tons of chicks in Japan, then complain and say "Blacks only want sex" in the rare cases that we get them. Many people all over the world are hated for attempting to do the same things that others do, especially when it was done to them.

Yes, you are. Blacks and non-Blacks are enemies for the most part. Most non-Blacks have little respect or use for us, and Blacks naturally hate back. Hating people for race does make sense; short men are disliked too, and race is likely more than a phenotypical attribute. I am hated for things that I have no control over and cannot change, so I hate back. It's simple really. It's a waste of energy trying to get people to understand, I suppose, but I'm convinced that many of the White liberals like yourself (especially those in Japan) really know what I'm talking about, but they deny it to strip my argument of its arsenal. Conservatives openly acknowledge the things that I say (which is why I have a bit more respect for them), although they still say "it's OK for us to do it but bad for you, N".

There are a ton of racial IQ theories all over the Internet and in some scientific journals. of course there are arguments that debunk them, but I wonder how much of it is true given the history of the world. I am not a scientist in that field, so perhaps I'll never know. I do know that society places a value on race, and as a Black man, I did get the shaft.

RustyBlackleford, I am saddened that you are so full of hatred and ignorance.

Nothing about the hatred you defend makes any sense. I don't think it exists at nearly the universal level you seem to think it does.

MMM, it does, not as pronounced perhaps, and true there is less of it than there has been in the past. However, it is a fact of life that people who appear the same hang out together, socialize together and tend to find the same interests together.

I'll give an example. The producer of Bablyon 5 noticed that the actors who played various "alien races" would hang together, eat at the same tables to gether and generally avoid contact with any other group of "aliens". He thought this was interesting so decided to test something, he swaped out a person who had been "Narn" for 6 weeks and made them into a "Menbari". That very day the person who was now "Menbari" hung out with other Menbari, ate at the tables as other menbari and avoided contact with Narns...this, despite all his actual friends being "Narns", those were the people he had formed relationships with.

Didn't matter, he was now "Menbari" and that's who he associated with.

I suspect it's more acient genetics, combined with tribalism and the fear of unknown things. Doesn't make it right or wrong so much as normal human behavior, we don't trust strangers, specially ones who look different from us.

RustyBlackleford; I'm conservitive, tea party more really. I don't hate blacks, even dated some black girls in college. Truth be told, I find that girls, reguardless of wether they are black, white or asian. Have far more in common with other girls, than they do with respective races.

What I do find unsettleing is the attitude that some blacks seem to think whites "owe" them something because of slavery and should pay "restitution" and the like. My forfathers came to the US in the 1880's, 20 years after the civil war. The only slaves they might have had, would have been centuries before and they woulda been white. I don't personally, nor does my family owe blacks anything. Plus, considering how many whites died in the civil war, restitution has been payed for, in blood.

I'm also ex army, far as I'm concerned there's only one "color" in America, and that's the stars and stripes. I served with all races and we didn't care, I had thier back and they had mine. We were American and that's all there was too it. It might behoove the US government to reinstate the draft and have everyone serve two years, might do them a world of good.

Ryozarian, my point was not about naturally hanging out with people you easily associate with. Although I like your ST story, and it makes sense. Did the actors playing Menbari develop a hatred for those playing Narn? I kind of doubt it.

However RustyBlackleford hates white people because they are white.

What else more do I have to say?

Babylon 5 reference is interesting. Thing is, unlike those actors, I can't just swap my skin so easily. Believe me, I would if I could.

My grievances have to do with what I deal with today, not what my ancestors dealt with. I do find it insulting that Whites support Israel and reparations to Japanese and Jews while they just tell Blacks to "get over it". We're supposed to cry crocodile tears for the holocaust, yet we are told to shut up about slavery and how we are generally disliked to this day (even when we're not begging for handouts).

Realistically speaking, it's not going to change, which is why I am strongly against integration. I was bitten by "japanophilia" and yellow fever, so I'm damaged. I encourage Blacks to go back to Africa, but Black guys like me just need to wait to die.

Hmm, I see your point somewhat MMM. However, I think perhaps RustyBlackleford doesn't hate whites so much as begrudges the circumstances of his own birth. Then places his resentment of that circumstance on whites.

Still, RustyBlackleford, consider this forum. Your talking with folks who can't Dicern you based on skin color but on what you have to say. Here, our opions aren't formed on what we see of you physically, but of how you present your self "spiritually", I guess is the closest anology.

Isreal is protected because the Germans systematically tried to eradicate all Jews from existance. While it is true that Blacks in the US have been mistreated, and in the past enslaved. The US, nor anybody else sought to kill every African on earth. Plus, there were some Black Families in the Atlanta area that not only were free but owned slaves themselves.

Slavery has been around for a long time, White slavery in the form of sex slaves, is a major problem in eastern Europe right now. So don't think slavery and mistreatment is something that only happens to blacks. Everyone race wise has lived under oppression to someone else. My swiss forfathers were enslaved to the Austrians, you don't see me decrying Austria now. That was something that happened between people who are no longer even alive today.

Also, as I mentioned before considering the US and slavery. 600,000 whites were killed in that war, the south was practically destroyed and under military rule for 30 years as a result. Payment had been made, and it cost dearly. I would suggest that for every black slave that had died dureing slavery years a white died in exchange dureing the civil war.

So cosmically speaking, justice had been served and freedom delivered. Now yes, resentment existed and boiled over countless times. Still, I would suggest that American Blacks, despite the hardships endured, have life far better in the USA than they would if they lived in Africa today.

I may be white, but I'm hardly rich, I'm a janitor for heavens sake. But I'm content with what I have. Perhaps instead of seeing everything that seperates us, we should focus on what unites us? For instance, why does Japan interest you? Isn't that why we are all on these forums? a mutual interest in things Japanese?

He's only interested in Japanese poontang and can't get any, so he bitches about how ugly he is....

I'm interested in more than the poontang, but yes, I want the poontang too.

For Ryzorian, I can't really enjoy that. Whites can enjoy Japan far more than the average Black guy can, so there will always be jealousy. I just advise Blacks to steer clear of Japan, and if they are damaged goods like me, just wait to die because life doesn't get better; it only gets worse when you learn more about why we are hated and how there is nothing we can do to change these things within our lifetimes.

A good poker player can win with the cards he's delt, even if it's considered a looseing hand. Sometimes you just have to bluff.

The best poker players are white. Blacks have no chance, and that's why I give up on life. If only Dr. Kevorkian were still around. Such a pity.

What would have happened if Jay-Z, Barrack Obama, Don Lemon, Martin Luther King Jr., Don King, Malcolm X, Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Flavor Flav, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, and Aretha Franklin all took on the same attitude about life you have?

The world would be a much worse off place. That's all I know for sure.

Most of those are just entertainers and mean little to the world.

I respect Malcolm X, but in the end, Blacks are an inferior race and that's just how it is. I don't believe in working to no end or trying when you know that you will fail, especially when your morale is lowered by watching other succeed easily and grind you into the dirt. The world would be a better place without Blacks, and I wish I were never born. I advocate the abortion of black babies to lower the crime and welfare rates as well as lessen human (we'll argue that Blacks are human) suffering.

Bloody tyrant Stalin ( ally of United States and Great Britain ) also wanted to dominate the rest of the world. In 1939 Germany had 52 divisions, 3 400 tanks and 4 300 military aircrafts. Soviet Union had 147 divisions, 21 000 tanks and 11 000 military aircrafts.

Japan need to create normal army, not self-defence forces.

They aren't allowed to have anything but a SDF....

For goodness sake, who is feeling sorry for themselves? With that attitude you are putting yourself down and wanting others to feel sorry for you. Wake up and be proud of who you are? Stand up for yourself. We have many doctors and nurses here in the UK-- who do marvellous work-- We have advanced surely--- if you put yourself down and others of your race you do a great dis-service to yourself and others.

We have many africans in my town and recently we had a special evening of african dance and culture-- it was wonderful. so many Africans are stunning, beautiful. shake yourself out of you rmiserable attitude. It sup to you to make efforts and not expect everything on a plate. I welcome all cultures and we can learn so much from each other. Black is Beautiful.

Black is not beautiful, especially in East Asian cultures. I don't expect sympathy nor do I give it. Nobody will feel sorry for me, which is why I have to feel sorry for myself. I only wish they would have had a eugenics program so I would have been aborted in the womb or that Dr. Kevorkian were still around so he could help me out of my misery.

Pretty soon people are going to grow tired of your constant self-deprecating posts and are going to ignore you and anything you have to say. You have become a troll and those aren't welcomed anywhere. Well, except here because nobody is really monitoring this forum much anymore....

Oh yeah, isn't Obama also Irish? So technically one could say he's at least part European. Though Britian allways did mistreat the Irish.

True. The one-drop rule is in effect, and the Black phenotype generally takes over. Obama would not be able to get an eikaiwa job or Japanese girlfriend, so he certainly is more Black than he is white.

He couldn't get an eikaiwa job, but somehow he was elected President of the United States of America. Wow.