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TokyoFerrari 10-30-2007 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TokyoFerrari (Post 281130)
From your point of view it is. France is known to have the #1 system in the world. As far as your doctors go, most are educated at John Hopkins.

American medical system is not bad. It is actually very good. The doctors are very educated. That guy from Sicko will be shot one day. There are good places and bad places.

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you see that. That is the people, not the system. He went to the ghetto. Their hospitals suck. The people there are rancid. I think this is wrong. The government should get involved and clean these places up. The system is just fine. And if you do it the right way, it is almost free. In France, not to many people take advantage of the system.

I can actually say this and back it up. It is not americans that are bad with it. It is the NON American citizens that ruin it for us. They are the ones who feel the should get free medical cause they are whatever. They should all be shot.

On that URL, this is mean but her fat ass should die anyway. Being that fat and wanting medical help. She diddnt have a medical problem, she had a fast food, no excersize and bad diet problem.

TokyoFerrari 10-30-2007 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kakashi (Post 281133)
Yeah, but cost you a fortune...

Medical insurance covers 80%

Maybe 100$. Like I said, if you use it right, it pays for itself. John Hopkins will do surgery on my miniscus in my knee next month. This is the #1 hospital in the world. THE WORLD. Total cost with insurance, 400$

Cant beat that. Well the French can.....fuckers.. :mtongue:

TokyoFerrari 10-30-2007 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kakashi (Post 281140)
.....lucky bastard.

Any American can do it. They just need to stop trying to sercumvent the system. Life would be good.

CoolNard 10-30-2007 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TokyoFerrari (Post 281038)
I live here and never seen people use that stuff.

Japanese health is good because of the diet. But this is changing. Lung cancer is almost double Americas, and since the introduction of McDonalds and stuff, well, it is not that healthy anymore. The medical system is very bad and I will put it this way. I have the money to go to the best hospitals in Japan, but, the surgrey to repair my knee, hellllll no. I flew back to America. The common cold, sure. But have you seen a Japanese hospital? Nasty and dirty. Even St. Lukes in tokyo. I am petrified of Japanese medicine. My wife who went to John Hopkins for her check up and physical was shocked. She will never go to another japanese hospital again. lol We fly to America about every other month. She would rather wait till we get to America to see a doctor. I dont blame her.

I am sure the people who live here canback me up on this one.

Remember the hospital that was doing blood transfusions with HIV+ blood? Then they swore it was not their fault and found a way to blaim the government? :rolleyes:

Even if you say that, I'm sure there are Japanese using them. Not everything is what it seems; perhaps you should try asking them personally? Maybe I was wrong about the health of the general population there, but surely a person like Dr Kyoichi Nakagawa would have major medical influences on the nation, if not, a tad?

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Originally Posted by yukiNnight (Post 281124)
wow that's alot u wrote, but are u sure japanese people r the most healthiest today?

I did not say that, I said they were *one of* the most healthiest. Then again, that depends on your definition of the phrase.

P.S. I'm not tryna start anything here, people. It's just my way of clarifying stuff and ensuring the public obtains reliable & up-to-date information, so my deepest apologies if I said something outta my league. :o

MMM 10-30-2007 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kakashi (Post 281133)
Yeah, but cost you a fortune...

I pay for medical insurance, which I almost never use, and it wouldn't cost me very much. TokyoFerrari is right...a couple hundred bucks. The real problem is that with private medical insurance companies, they are a business that is more interested in making money than helping people. Many procedures and surgeries cost LIFE-ENDING amounts of money. Part of the reason for that is that DOCTORS spend 10's of thousands of dollars a year on malpractice insurance. They have that because LAWYERS encourage people to sue any time a person isn't healed 100% after an auto accident, on-the-job injury, etc. Doctors have to protect themselves, and we end up paying the difference.

Japan is not as litigious, (I don't think any country is), and so you get different results.

TokyoFerrari 10-30-2007 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolNard (Post 281218)

Even if you say that, I'm sure there are Japanese using them. Not everything is what it seems; perhaps you should try asking them personally? Maybe I was wrong about the health of the general population there, but surely a person like Dr Kyoichi Nakagawa would have major medical influences on the nation, if not, a tad?


I did not say that, I said they were *one of* the most healthiest. Then again, that depends on your definition of the phrase.

P.S. I'm not tryna start anything here, people. It's just my way of clarifying stuff and ensuring the public obtains reliable & up-to-date information, so my deepest apologies if I said something outta my league. :o

you're all good dawg. But I never herd of him.

noodle 10-30-2007 10:32 AM

hmmm. ok so sicko is a bit missleading... As for the french medical system. i have to admit. it is great. i pay insurance for 190euros per year and i get 100% cover on EVERYTHING. medicine (which without insurance i'd be paying more thatn 1000euros per year), dentist, doctors, surgery etc etc. ofcourse this price is the student price. but even for a normal adult its not much more expensive.

but for me. the good thing about france is the doctors... they seem far more educated and precise and goodwilled than british doctors. I've got a blood problem, and i've been coming to france to see the worlds number one specialist for this blood problem ever since i was born. but when i decided to get the follow ups in england, the doctors were a bit shit, and i went to a privite hospital etc etc. all they done for me in england was take ridiculous amounts of blood from me every 6 months and tell me "everything is fine, don't worry"... i went back to france, they took one little tube of blood, and they told me my problem as worsend and i needed stronger drugs

TokyoFerrari 10-30-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by noodle (Post 281343)
hmmm. ok so sicko is a bit missleading... As for the french medical system. i have to admit. it is great. i pay insurance for 190euros per year and i get 100% cover on EVERYTHING. medicine (which without insurance i'd be paying more thatn 1000euros per year), dentist, doctors, surgery etc etc. ofcourse this price is the student price. but even for a normal adult its not much more expensive.

but for me. the good thing about france is the doctors... they seem far more educated and precise and goodwilled than british doctors. I've got a blood problem, and i've been coming to france to see the worlds number one specialist for this blood problem ever since i was born. but when i decided to get the follow ups in england, the doctors were a bit shit, and i went to a privite hospital etc etc. all they done for me in england was take ridiculous amounts of blood from me every 6 months and tell me "everything is fine, don't worry"... i went back to france, they took one little tube of blood, and they told me my problem as worsend and i needed stronger drugs

I would never go to a british doctor... scary.


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