What's the easiest method...
 

What's the easiest and cheapest way to move to Japan for a period of at least one year???

Plz help

It would help if you informed us of your situation, intentions, and skills that will enable you to move *and* live in a completely different culture thousands of miles away from your present situation and location. Try using the search function, as there is a great wealth of information you may wish to read in order to help you out.

oh sry

Well, i'm a senior in high school, and i wanna go there AS SOON AS I GRADUATE! And for the cheapest way possible, and the minimum requirements, u know?

and i wanna stay there for as long as possible

Me too. Get in line. I suggest go to college in America, and get some degree in English. ("u'll" need to study hard.) And then apply for a job in Japan over the internet, mail, e-mail, etc.

i dont have enough time to go to college, or enough money. i need something quicker and cheaper.

Think about it. There are hundreds of unemployed degree holders with valid visas milling around Japan. Hundreds more without visas milling around, but still with the degree.

You have no degree, no relocation plan, and apparently no patience.

Now, think about it, what could you do in Japan that would merit being offered a position that could not be filled by A) a Japanese person B) a Southeast Asian or Brazilian immigrant C) a westerner with experience, degree, visa, or all three? And how can I trust you can even get here? I'm certainly not going to pay your way.

Logically, and barring a miracle of "grace of God" proportions, without a college education, you are pretty much out of luck.

how did u do it?

and whats the nextt easiest way? should i get a quick community college degree?

The absolute cheapest and "painless" method? Get married to a Japanese citizen.

Unfortunately, that falls nowhere even close to the "easy" part of your request.

There is no quick and easy way to relocate to another country. Think about the effort that would be required for you to just suddenly move to a completely different city far from family/friend support in your OWN country. Not so easy, is it? Up that by at least 10 for moving to Japan.

It`s like saying "Hey, I want to be a pro athlete! Anybody know how I can be one by next month?" when you haven`t exercised in years and don`t know how to play any sports.

How did I do it?

Well, in high school, I had an interest in Japanese. That set Japan up as an eventual goal. Then I attended college and was part of the Naval Reserve- I initially thought that becoming an officer would get me assigned to 7th fleet. For various reasons I regret now, I left the Navy, I finished my degree, and then I worked in politics. I pretty much gave up on Japan. Then due to the economic downturn, I ended up losing my job in politics. In order to pay my bills I took a job teaching English in Korea. I hated it. I spent a few months looking for a job in Japan, I had experience and a degree, and I was nearby (relocation only cost me about $180) all I needed was someone willing to sponsor me for a visa. I had, in fact, been offered three positions and got to choose which one I liked best. And so here I am.

And you know how much time it took between "I want to live in Japan" and "I live in Japan"? Around a decade.

How/why would a Japanese company just "willingly sponsor" you from Korea, without knowing Japanese?


Strange.

Because I'm an American with a degree in English, with education experience both in a foreign country and my home country, who is much less likely to be UA on the date of arrival? I was no less easy than someone who lived in Tokyo and needed a visa.

"I was no less easy"




Hm......how strange.

Not strange at all.

They needed someone of my qualifications by a certain date. I met those qualifications and could be in Japan by that certain date.

What could possibly be considered strange about normal business practices?

O_o

Someone in Korea without a valid Japanese working visa is no different than someone staying in the hotel next door on a tourist visa. You still have to do the exact same thing to hire them. There is no particular disadvantage to hiring someone who happens to be in Korea at the time - and in this case an advantage as all the qualifications were there.

You don`t need to speak Japanese to teach English in Japan. I`d even say that it`s to your advantage NOT to - as a lot of places don`t want to risk you speaking to the students in Japanese rather than 100% English.

No, because you need a Bachelor's for Visa requirements. You can get a degree through a Community College (two-year) and the transfer over to a University for two years to get your Bachelor's.

Everything Nyororin said is basically what I thought was understood about normal business practices in other countries. Perhaps I should have been clearer...

...and in any case, I did speak conversational Japanese. As I said, I had become interested in it as a second language ten years ago. But really, it was a non-qualification. If I hadn't spoken any at all, it wouldn't have mattered. What they needed was someone with the right qualifications. That person was me. And I was in Korea. End of story.

I meant the actual sentence. It doesn't seem like proper English sentence to me, especially coming from an "English teacher."

But whatever, I'm not trying to start any fights.

Buy a round trip plane ticket for under 90 days. Go to Japan. Toss your plane ticket in the garbage. Find a cardboard box. That is your new home. Hang out and be homeless until you are deported.

Have I ever told you I loved you?



Anyways....

I think I'll actually do this too. I mean, homeless in Japan must be hella fun.





(Obviously I'm kidding.)

I didn't think you were trying to start any "fights."

And trust me, I went to school to become an English teacher in my home country. Which would be the US. So whatever your feelings are about whether or not ALTs are actual teachers, and arguments go both ways, I could teach in the US, I just make more here, surprising as that often is to people.

And "no less easy" just means the same as "not harder." Nothing was grammatically wrong about what I had written. We could argue about style until we're blue in the face though. That changes from generation to generation, and even person to person.

Oh, cool!

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Great. We got another one.

日本語を出来ますか？

Does that say, Nihongo o dekimasuka?

Yeah, It means like "can you do Japanese"

Not necessarily proper, but who cares.

Oh, so it was intentional. ^^

basically XD

I guess you could consider it "slang"


Somehow.

Anyways, let's get back on topic.

Sorry OP
XDD

:pinkclap:

Also, MMM's suggestion is worth taking into consideration OP.

uhh the quickest route to live there TEMPORARILY imo is to study abroad. also if you dont have enough money for college how do you plan to afford shelter and food?

I think you'll find..

meh, screw it. your not worth the energy.

To the OP:

Have you even visited Japan?

I suggest you read MMM's "I don't want to live in Japan" thread.

1. Study abroad

2. Sponsored by a company

3. register as a entertainer for a visa

4. get married to a japanese person

5. certain countries have holiday visas, which is good for 6 months

6. stay 3 months at a time on sakura houses 3 month rental plan and fly to guam every 3 months for a day or so and reenter and book the same apartment.

7. Work for some bar for funds and room with a person who has a visa and stay off the radar *not recommended*

8. have a ridiculous amounts of money, they'll issue a visa for millionaires with out question since they'll spend that money in Japan.

9. Go through Jet/esl teaching program

10. be a homeless person stayin off the grid

I know japan is great and is a exciting place to be.

but actually living there and working there is a different story.

You really gotta have a plan and a reason to be there, other then "i love japanese things lol kthxbai!"

comming out of highschool, you will not be able to afford to live in japan unless your out in the boonies some where.

not knowing the language fluently will make things more difficult *im not fluent and manage to live there for year and 1/2 but it made things harder*

right out of college i just decided to go live there.

really hard finding work, and affording every thing. i found my self burning through money on just necessities.

luckily i illegally got a job at night clubs for a short period.

what i did was just stay on a 3 month visa and dip out the country for a few days, it was one of the more expensive routes.

but i had no other choice really.

and my fiance at the time wasn't a japanese citizen, she just had a student Visa and per parents had work visas.

also not to sound like a dick

but if you cant afford school in america, you will not afford life in japan. period.

unless you do with mmm said and become homeless.

Gawd, this may be the reason why I spend time on the internet.

Internet stupidity, and Internet stupidity refuted is by far, the best form of entertainment for the modern generation.

Yes, and if you try to advise these people they get mad because you told them something they didn't want to hear and you are a bad person for telling them.

I know!

Aren't internet tears delicious?

Probably the biggest Necropost I've ever seen.

Ahh It's good to be back.

Talk talk
 

This thread is full of nay-sayers.
I dare say there's more than one route to achieving your goals. I, too, have many questions on this subject. However, I want to travel to Japan as a college student (Having graduated high school a year ago). I recognize that this is not impossible - provided I am well prepared.
Student loans will be a moderate life-saver.

For those of us who are determined to approach this subject in a way other than obtaining a bachelors and getting a job, are there any recommendations for an advisable route? I would prefer not to be referred to "exchange programs", either. Patience is a virtue - but I don't know that it's always necessary to put off our goals in favor of the most obvious responses to situations.
A challenge isn't so bad, after all.

There is no legal way to live in Japan and not be a student or employed for more than 90 days. (Unless your spouse is Japanese, but that is more than a rubber stamp, and is a process on its own, especially if you don't plan on working.)

I understand.
 

I will be in Japan for the purpose of education. I was planning on applying, as an international student, to a university there. I know too little about university in Japan to yet know where I am going.
Do you have any suggestions MMM? For a student. Legalities are the only thing I can not willfully ignore. =) I do know that there are only so many ways to enter and remain in the country until citizenship (very difficult) or long-term residence is approved.

I misread your post. Let's leave answers to this question to your other thread,