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ChisaChi 04-17-2009 06:45 AM

The other bits of Japan
 
So it looks like I'll be going to Japan for a 2 week language/culture/homestay program in Kanazawa! Since it isn't cheap to fly there, I'm planning to go a week or two early and do some travelling before classes start, in late September.

I've been to Japan once before and did most of the usual tourist things - Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Hakone, skiing... this time I'm looking for places a little more off the beaten track. I want to check out Koyasan which I ran out of time for last time, and hope to visit a JET buddy once they find out where they're being placed, but other than those I have no idea. The exchange rate is terrible at the moment, so I'm planning to do lots of sightseeing rather than shopping.

So what's your favourite 'hidden gem' in Japan?

Nagoyankee 04-17-2009 06:53 AM

Where will you be landing?

Should we recommend places not far from Kanazawa?

ChisaChi 04-17-2009 07:04 AM

It's still a fair way away so I haven't planned too far yet - just started looking around for ideas :)

It looks like I'll most likely be going with my boyfriend who hasn't been to Japan before, so he probably will want to check out the more typical places, if only briefly. I was thinking of flying in to Osaka, travelling around a bit then heading to Tokyo to see him off back home, before heading over to Kanazawa on my own for the homestay.

At this point, I'd say anything is fair game; I still need to narrow down where exactly I'll be going @_@

skitty 04-17-2009 07:38 AM

isn't the deer park free? or sumtin i'm so envious what program? does that do?

ChisaChi 04-17-2009 07:58 AM

Nara Park? I've been there, I think the park itself was free and there was a small fee for the daibutsuden, but I can't remember. Was a pretty cool place though!

The details of the program are here if you're interested, although this information is aimed at Australians. It's two weeks homestay with a family in Kanazawa, morning Japanese classes and cultural stuff in the afternoons/weekends. I never got the opportunity to do a study abroad while I was in school or uni, so I'm jumping at this one :)

Tsuwabuki 04-17-2009 08:06 AM

Do Amanohashidate. It's my favorite spot in Japan and doesn't get a lot of non-Japanese tourists.

Bring your swimsuit and prepare to enjoy the beach!

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Troo 04-17-2009 12:32 PM

My favourite "hidden gem" in Japan (so far) has to be Musashi's grave out in Kumamoto.

Second favourite is Sengaku-ji. Strangely very few Western tourists considering how easy it is to reach. A very beautiful place.

ChisaChi 04-20-2009 11:39 PM

Thanks guys! I'll definitely keep those places in mind.

ChisaChi 05-13-2009 10:59 AM

Okay! Fleshing out my trip a little more... got plane tickets booked!

I'll have just over a week before the program starts, which I'll probably spend checking out bits of Kyushu (got a friend to visit in Kagoshima), then drop in at Hiroshima and Osaka before heading up to Kanazawa. After the program I'll have a few days left in Japan which I'm planning on spending in Tokyo. Exciting! :D

I'm hoping to be able to make it to Amanohashidate, and definitely to Sengaku-ji.

Anywhere in Japan that's particularly nice in September/October? Nice autumn leaves?

Besides pretty scenery I'm interested in art and design, although I hear there's a decent scene in Kanazawa and I'm sure there's plenty to see in Tokyo.

Troo 05-13-2009 11:55 AM

If art and design is your thing, this may interest you: Tokyo Shopping Guide | asking for trouble

ChisaChi 05-13-2009 12:18 PM

Ooh yes, I found that a while ago - I'm really into crafts, so definitely plan on checking out some of those places.

If anyone else is interested in arty type stuff in Tokyo, Tokyo Art Beat has some good articles about events.

Troo 05-13-2009 01:12 PM

Awesome! Thanks :)

tumblingwater 06-20-2009 04:59 PM

Thanks for tip on Sengaku-ji!

JBaymore 06-20-2009 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChisaChi (Post 715880)
Anywhere in Japan that's particularly nice in September/October? Nice autumn leaves?

Nikko in Tochigi-ken. Stunning.

best,

..............john

ChisaChi 08-28-2009 05:44 AM

Alright! Less than a month to my trip, what do you think of my itinerary?

19 Sept
Tokyo

20 Sept
Osaka

21 Sept
Day trip to Koyasan from Osaka (still deciding whether to just stay overnight at a temple)

22 Sept
Day trip to Amanohashidate from Osaka

23 Sept
Hiroshima

24 Sept
Hiroshima

25 Sept
Kumamoto

26 Sept
Kagoshima

27 Sept
Fly Kagoshima -> Osaka, train Osaka -> Kanazawa

27 Sept - 9 Oct
Homestay in Kanazawa

10 Oct
Tokyo

11 Oct
Tokyo

12 Oct
Tokyo

13 Oct
Home

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I'll be spending lots of time on trains which is a bit of a pain, but difficult to avoid if you want to go everywhere =/ I'll bring a good book or two with me. Before anyone points out that I'm missing some big places, I've already been to Nara, Kyoto, Miyajima, Hakone, Himeji on a previous trip.

samurai007 08-28-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ChisaChi (Post 765733)
Alright! Less than a month to my trip, what do you think of my itinerary?

19 Sept
Tokyo

20 Sept
Osaka

21 Sept
Day trip to Koyasan from Osaka (still deciding whether to just stay overnight at a temple)

22 Sept
Day trip to Amanohashidate from Osaka

23 Sept
Hiroshima

24 Sept
Hiroshima

25 Sept
Kumamoto

26 Sept
Kagoshima

27 Sept
Fly Kagoshima -> Osaka, train Osaka -> Kanazawa

27 Sept - 9 Oct
Homestay in Kanazawa

10 Oct
Tokyo

11 Oct
Tokyo

12 Oct
Tokyo

13 Oct
Home

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I'll be spending lots of time on trains which is a bit of a pain, but difficult to avoid if you want to go everywhere =/ I'll bring a good book or two with me. Before anyone points out that I'm missing some big places, I've already been to Nara, Kyoto, Miyajima, Hakone, Himeji on a previous trip.

Hmmm, ok, I don't think you need 2 days in Hiroshima. 1 should do it. Instead, you could spend a day at some other place. For instance, you aren't visiting either Fukuoka or Nagasaki on Kyushu? Have you already been to both places? If not, IMO Fukuoka is worth 1 day if you can spare it (if not, at least stop to eat real Hakata ramen from a street stand there), and Nagasaki is worth 2 if possible.

Are you using a JR rail pass to ride the shinkansen? If not, then you might consider skipping Hiroshima completely and going across the top of Shikoku rather than the bottom of Honshu. Consider the following:

21 Sept
Day trip to Koyasan from Osaka, stay overnight at a temple

22 Sept
From Koya-san, take train to Wakayama City (maybe visit castle), take ferry from Kansai airport to Awaji Island, see whirlpools in Naruto bay (http://www.wel-shikoku.gr.jp/eng/seto/uzusio.htm), sightsee on Awaji and/or Naruto.

23 Sept
Visit Takamatsu (Takamatsu City Web Site: Main sightseeing spot)

24 Sept
Visit Matsuyama and Dogo Onsen (Matsuyama Travel: Dogo Onsen , Dōgo Onsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

25 Sept
Take ferry from west coast of Shikoku to east coast of Kyushu (I believe they go to Beppu), from there go to Kumamoto

26 Sept
Kagoshima

27 Sept
Fly Kagoshima -> Osaka, train Osaka -> Kanazawa


IMHO, these places in Shikoku are far more interesting than Hiroshima. Or maybe skip all of them, head straight to Kyushu, and spend 2 days looking around Nagasaki instead... Nagasaki is FAAAAAR more interesting than Hiroshima IMO, and has a lot of historical sites related to the Meiji era, the trading island of Dejima, old churches, and much more (Nagasaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Either of these options is preferable to 2 days in Hiroshima, IMO.

Also, while you are doing the homestay in Kanazawa, be sure to visit the park, and try to get down to Takayama and see the Hida Folk Village.

ChisaChi 08-30-2009 05:29 AM

Hmm, well my intention was actually to spend the morning in Osaka (I have a couple of friends there, who I was intending to meet up with), then travelling to Hiroshima in the evening and staying the night. I've already seen Hiroshima on a previous visit though (passing through on the way to Miyajima) and seen the Peace Park, so maybe I could switch it for one of the other places you've suggested. I haven't been to either Fukuoka or Nagasaki before.

I really want to avoid staying in a different city every night though - as much as I'm trying to travel light, I think it will be a pain moving all my stuff and checking in to different places each time. How far is Awaji Island from Osaka? Is it possible to do as a day trip?

Ooh, I just realised I'll be in Kyushu around the time of the Autumn festival in Fukuoka - I might have to spend a night there and see it.

EDIT: Revised plan! Still have a lot of hostel hopping, but hopefully it won't be too bad... I'm also doubling back to Fukuoka, but I really want to see the lighting of candles on the evening of the 25th and also need to be in Kagoshima to meet up with a friend on the 26th, and I'm unwilling to give up either =_=

Samurai, your suggestions of places in Shikoku look wonderful, but there's too many things I want to see in Kyushu and not enough time!

19 Sept
Tokyo

20 Sept
Osaka

21 Sept
Day trip to Amanohashidate from Osaka

22 Sept
Koyasan, temple stay

23 Sept
Nagasaki

24 Sept
Kumamoto, Mt Aso

25 Sept
Fukuoka

26 Sept
Kagoshima

27 Sept
Fly Kagoshima -> Osaka, train Osaka -> Kanazawa

27 Sept - 9 Oct
Homestay in Kanazawa

10 Oct
Tokyo

11 Oct
Tokyo

12 Oct

Tokyo

13 Oct
Home

samurai007 08-31-2009 05:18 AM

Koya-san to Nagasaki in a single day is going to be a long trip, even if you take the bullet train. It will leave very little time to look around Nagasaki, and it's a city that deserves at least 1-2 days IMO. Do you have some special reason to see Amanohashidate? Maybe you could skip that so you'll be less pressed for time on Kyushu.

Awaji Island is very close to Osaka and would be an easy day trip.


ChisaChi 08-31-2009 05:46 AM

Yeah, after posting that I actually looked properly into travel times. I've decided that I really don't have the time to put into doing Nagasaki properly, so I'll be going to Hiroshima for that day instead. I understand your points but I think it's an easier in-between point to spend the night in, and there are a few things there I'd like to check out.

Amanohashidate just looked like it was pretty unique and picturesque, so I think I'd rather see it than another Japanese city unless there's something particularly interesting. Have you been there? Would you say that it's more or less interesting than Awaji?

samurai007 08-31-2009 06:31 AM

No, I haven't been there, but to my knowledge, it's only claim to fame is being a picturesque view of a tree-covered peninsula. It's pretty far from Osaka, being on the northern coast of Japan. Awaji Island is much closer to Osaka, but I'm sure Amanohashidate and Wakasa Bay has nice scenery... it's your trip, your choice.

Have you tried searching for Youtube videos for these places? Here's Amanohashidate: YouTube - Kyoto - Amanohashidate and here's Wakasa Bay: YouTube - 蘇洞門めぐり , YouTube - Wakasa Bay Beach - snorkeling, cliff diving, fun!


Awaji: YouTube - Whirlpools between Awaji Island and Shikoku Island

ChisaChi 08-31-2009 06:53 AM

Hrmm, based on those videos I think Amanohashidate looks more interesting, even if it is further away. At this point I think I'll play that day by ear - I haven't really left myself a full day in Osaka, so if it all feels like too much I'll probably just hang out with my friends there or think about going to Awaji.


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