Why do many japanese want to have white skin?
 

Hey there...

I noticed that many japanese girls and guys want to have white skin. What's so nice about beeing white?

Could somebody explain that to me? Has it to do with the gothloli culture?

Arigatou! :pandasmile:

well maybe having white skin is like showing how delicate they are and such and no people where a jacket on a hot day just so they wont get a tan

alot of races do because they think that way they'l be excepted more. i do goth loli sometimes and im 3 1/4s black and i have dark skin so it is posible. you dont need pitch white skin to achieve the style.

usually white skin looks prettier than black.
but it depends..

black skin people wish to have white skin n
white skin people wish to have black skin...
this is weired but it is reality ^^"

My understanding is that girls don't want to get tanned because it'll come back and haunt them when they reach in their 30's or something.

And traditionally, it has been that way for many many years.

There is also a historical aspect as well. If you come from the farming household, girls get tanned working outside while daughters of merchants are spending their time on cultural activities such as flowers, tea, and instruments.

So even today, white skin is regarded as a beautiful thing to have.

For guys on the other hand, it's more complicated. If you are a businessman, certain appearance is expected. If you go to work with nice tan, people would think that you are playing around and the work is not the #1 priority.

Over here, everyone wants a lovely tan!

Not me though, I'm fine being rather pallid, if I go out in the sun I just burrrrn >.<

That aint true o.o

I dont get tanned..but I dont stay in the sun long enough to get burned :D

Yea, I know.

In recent years, it is also about image as well.

Because of those kogals, people have negative images about tanned skin.

And I'm pretty sure that girls don't want to be viewed as cheap or stupid.

i dont agree that white skin is prettier than black skin. first of there isnt just white and black skin. there are different races and secondly not all races are the same. that cusing me. im 3/4 black. i dont wish i had white skin. :mad:

x]
this is this one's personal opinion~
but lightskin ish pretty x]
and this one hates tanning >.<''
if anyone knows~
this one uses MAC Studio Tech NC25 (foundation)
instead of MAC ST NC30
because the NC25 ish alot more pale than the 25 >.>'''
NC30 (if anyone tries it out, or knows what it looks like)
matches w/ this one's skin perfectly though =.=''''

not all people have a neg. image of 'tanned skin'. alot of people have a neg. image of like for exp, black people jewish people etc. but then again some black people dont like people that are white, some chinese people may not like people that are another race etc. u get my drift.

No skin colour looks better than another in my opinion >.< I wouldn't let unchangeable pigments in my skin change the way I dress. Obviously you wear things that compliment your skin colour, much as you do with wearing makeup that suits your eye colour, but no skin colour is blantantly prettier than another!

i didnt mean everyone like that..
it just based on my own observation :mtongue:

i agree with u about the dif races.
as i said..it depends..
i know not all people r like that(including u..)
but most of them..i think ^^"

the problem is when things like stereotypes have been put into peoples headz espesh when theyre yung and impressionable and by parents or idols/people that they look up to.

thats exacty my point, but then again not all people from the Uk but alot are open minded about race and skin colour.

not all asian people, I know that south east asian people aren't so big on 'pale' skin. but thats because they look really beautiful with tanned skin, e.g: filipino, vietnamese.

But chinese/korean/japanese girls think that pale is good because its prettier, you look more radiant.

wow
 

this this a really bad and yet good topic to talk about!
i see people make threads like this one all the time !
but most of them end really badly,and get block or locked !
i'm so happy to see how everyone is respecting each other
on this web site !
i don't mean this in bad way,but i always wanted to know how japanesse people feel about blacks in the u.s.a. coming over there to live or just on vacation ?!
what do most of them think about us ?!:confused:

Two words: Holly Wood x) That's one but.. yeah >.<'

That's just their idealized female concept of beauty.

I don't get it :confused: Why would anyone want a fairer skin tone? I spend HOURS, DAYS and WEEKS lying in the sun to get a goddamn tan ¬¬'

well, i don't think they have anything against blacks.
I mean most of them are pretty normal, they accept black people. It's not a novelty. >.> It's not the middle ages y'know.

But i think some of the older generation who are quite conservative wouldn't want their sons/daughters getting married to one. That's a small minority though, its not the race problem, but they just think that darker skin is not that pretty and image to some people mean everything.

But then again, you get those people in america/uk/[insert country here] as well

Suki: When chinese people than, they don't go golden. they just darken and on some people it looks beautiful, and on some, e.g: myself it doesn't. [plus i dont tan, however long i stand in the sun]

I guess its the ideology that a fair skin tone is more radiant and therefore prettier. This doesn't apply for everyone though

I am one of the palest people I know, and I really hate it. I guess back in the day paper white symbolized beauty. Tan meant you worked in the feilds and were poor. I think people think pale is pretty, that is why they want to have pale skin......

If you are talking about tradtional white makeup seen on geisha, this actually came from China and was adopted by Japanese royalty before becoming more common with women. It has NOTHING to do with wanting to look Europeans. That tradition is still common today, in that many women avoid the sun, as paler skin is felt to be attractive. At the same time many are also sun-worshippers, and try to get very tan.

Loli-goths like pale skin better than tanned, as it goes with the whole culture better, but they are no influence on the masses.

Yeah... It's funny how no one's ever happy with what they've got. I'd just die to have a tanned skin tone (errr ok maybe not die, but I'd kill xD) and them Asians have the toughest time trying to stay pale =/

...wanna trade skins, anyone??? lol

It's really bad to lay in the sun for ages! It gives you skin cancer >.< Same with sun beds and stuff. If you wear suncream, that's alright though :D

most people are now just using fake tan or like the johnsons slow release thingy.

I use sun-protecting lotions all the time, fear not ;) Fake tan looks, well, fake; it's obvious you're not naturally tanned.

i forgot about geisha make-up :rolleyes: . thats different. and the loli goth thing if you can acchieve it. i would just look wrong piling white makeup on my skin. :p .
but i dont think for the loli-goth/classic goth look you have to paste on the make-up. you can just have ur natural skin tone it doesnt matter reli.:vsign:

some fake tans are quite ok. i havent tested them personally because i have no neeed but my fwendz have and i woldnt reli tell. i mean if you are just walkin about and it is sunny on that day, you could just naturally get a tan. even though my skin colour is black, i still tan, like when i go to america on holz, i go really dark xD:vsign:

I clearly stated that in JAPAN, people have negative images about tanned skin because of kogal.

If you don't know what it means, you might want to look it up.

Regarding white skin as beautiful is a Japanese tradition that exist long before they were forced to open of to the world for trade.

It has roots in Japanese classism. The Japanese royalty had very light skin. And that association of white skin with high class has carried into modern day times.

People have negative opinions about KOGAL because they act like morons. I don't think it is because of their tanned skin.

same here in america w/ the general dislike towards certain......people x]

it's hard not to be a racist when roughly 80% of said population support all the negative stereotypes that are said (by peers and the media) about them >.>"

I read this a few times, but I really want to be clear what you mean by "certain.....people" and how 80% of a certain race acts. Can you explain more clearly?

blacks and hispanisc >.>''

over 50% of all crimes are committed by them~
they're on the news a lot, as are their photos for all these miscellaneous kidnappings >.>
and people have a general negative impression of them~

as i've grew up >.>''
i've always tried to defend them
"no, they aren't all bad
there has to be some good ones" >.>'''
i still hold that ideal...
but it's a little hard not to suddenly think
OH, he must be latino or black
whenever some thing happens, say a drive-by, or a theft, or whatever >.>''
especially with what i see and hear around the school =.=
when like... a large majority of them, tend to uphold the stereotypes against them x.x'

alot of them are ignorant, self-righteous, have little respect for others (those outside their "circle"), pick fights for the most retarded of reasons, throw up those idiotic "gang signs", make up 90% of the impregnated females in the high school (of which make up roughly 5% the school population), or females with children already. (not even approaching all that asinine slang and their "jokes" that they spew outta their holes) >.>''
again, not saying they're ALL like that...
buut..it's hard not to have a negative image of them
when so many of them support that image >.>'''

Yeah I agree. But then again, if you wear sun-cream, you don't get tanned aswell, which is basically the point. >.<

I don't mind being my pale self that's just how I am :D

You don't have to be really pale to be a successful Goth Loli. If you really insist you could go a shade lighter of your foundation and it wouldn't look out of place, since your face is naturally a slighter darker colour than the rest of you anyway. The only time paste white makeup looks good is when it's done by someone good at it. I've seen people attempt it, and it looks like Slipknot gone wrong, and it's all pasty and streaky >.< Not attractive.

I am a little sad, Yuujirou. I thought you were more intelligent than to hold such racist opinions. Maybe that is what you see in front of your face, but there is a big world out there and "they" aren't like "that" everywhere. As someone I am sure has experienced discrimination in your life I am sure you wouldn't like to be held to the lowest standard.

it's not necessarily a matter of intelligence >.>''
no matter how many times i tell myself that there are good people out there
it doesn't erase the basic assumption i feel when the subject arises >.>
though, despite that, i do consider myself an open-minded person...
if actualy, i pride myself in that >.>'

so basically, >.>"
those who fit the negative profile upon a sight basis...are going to have to
actually show me that they aren't like the rest, i won't just assume they're good people >.>"

Sadly, that's what I would call racist values.


I am not trying to be mean when I say that many racists and KKK members say the exact same thing.

Yes. They must prove to you they are worthy of your positive opinion. Although, the pit you have dug for "them" is pretty deep ("over 50% of all crimes are committed by them", "a large majority of them, tend to uphold the stereotypes against them", "the general dislike towards certain......people", "80% of said population support all the negative stereotypes")

haah ^^'
true true~
buut...meh
what can i do to change my 'idea' of them? ._.