??? There are men's corsets you know (EGA for Man:Corsets). I'm not in a mood to argue, so I'll just briefly say my piece and be on my way. Dressing EGA doesn't mean you have to cross-dress. It also means you can wear a combination of men and women's clothing. I think everyone would agree me on that part. It's not completely normal for a guy to wear a long dress-like coat. That is feminine-inspired wear, but it isn't necessarily all-female either. A guy can wear it, it's not cross-dressing, and it's perfectly acceptable. That's what EGA does.

Mana isn't the only one that dresses EGA. Klaha was EGA too, but he didn't go all the way and look like a woman like Mana. He just wore those long dress-type things I mentioned earlier. Yuuki was also EGA, but he didn't actually cross-dress either. Kozi is the same. They all wore men's corsets and evening gloves and stuff like that. It's a mix of both gender styles.

If you don't like that type of thing, no one's forcing you to wear it.

Edit: Here's an example of what I'm talking about. It's feminine, but it's not necessarily cross-dressing.

Mana is just an iconic singer that dresses in Lolitaesque clothing, he didn't neccesarily invent anything, just adapted styles, so you are essentially both right in a way. Lolita and EGA just come from all sorts of places, not just primarily one source, Gothic Aristocrat is popular here and is influenced by Victorian English styles and Elegant Gothic Artistocrat is just a more extreme version of that original idea, it can be more feminine, more lace and frills, but it can also be more masculine, pocket watches etc. Mana is just a popular figure who wears those type of clothing, and in the Lolita world some love him, some hate him. Personally, I am indifferent, I don't like his music, but I like some people who he has produced for example Kanon Wakeshima, I like his clothing sometimes but not on a man. You don't have to dress as a female to be EGA, there is EGA for men and EGA for women, it just seems like Mana is wearing the female version of it over the standard male version.

EGA is the same as any alternative fashion, there is ALWAYS more clothes aimed at females. There is always more clothes for female in ANY type of fashion, because stereotypically females simply shop a lot more. It doesn't have to be aimed in any particular way, that's just how it is. You are more likely to see a gothic girl than a gothic guy for example, same with Lolita - my Lolita Fruits book is brimming with females with a few guys there.


BTW: After christmas I'm going to be selling some of my Lolita/Goth/Punk/VK clothing, I just need to get pictures of them. I will put them up on the Buy/Sell/Trade Section.

hey merry late xmas! my computers actin up at the min so i cant go on as much as normal.
yah i got the gothic lolita bible winter 09 4 xmas i was so excited! its great got some lovely clothin in it i want nearly all of them

Name: Isabel
Age: 15
Favourite Type of Lolita: Goth and Sweet
Favourite Lolita Brand: baby the stars shine bright
Favourite Lolita Store: baby the stars shine bright
Favourite Colours: black and red
Likes and Dislikes: People who are criticize the fashion


And I got no clue how to put pics as my signiture help anyone?

Name: NatsuChan
Age: 17
Favourite Type of Lolita: All of them; It's hard for me to pick.
Favourite Lolita Brand:I can't pick...They're all so nice!
Favourite Lolita Store:Baby The Stars Shine Bright
Favourite Colours: I don't have a favorite.. :/
Likes and Dislikes: I like Lolita, music, and animals
I dislike egotistical people.

Name: Ashlan or Ash for short
Age: 16
Favourite Type of Lolita: I love them all but if I must choose I'd probably go with Gothic Lolita.
Favourite Lolita Brand:Basically anything that looks cute or adorable...I really love Harajuku and Gothic Lolita.
Favourite Lolita Store:Oh, I like a lot of them...I'll say Baby The Stars Shine Bright and In the Starlight.
Favourite Colours: I don't have a favorite. I wear different colors based off of my mood. Sometimes I wear dark clothes and others I'm like a neon sign.
Likes and Dislikes: I like Lolita, Harajuku, fashion(in general), animals, the GazettE, writing, drawing(designing), sewing, and so many more things.
I dislike people who criticize others only to make themselves feel better.

Wow, we have a lot of new members all of the sudden!

Welcome everybody that joined! XD

Name: Elizabeth but Lizi for short
Age: 19
Favourite Type of Lolita: I like them all, but mostly Gothic.
Favourite Lolita Brand: Not too picky on brands.
Favourite Lolita Store: Dont know any, but I think Hot Topic sells some stuff.
Favourite Colours: All, mostly Darker shades, but it mostly goes by my mood or theme of the day.
Likes: Fashion, Modeling, Photography, Music, Archery, and Animals.
Dislikes: People that are mean and Mushrooms and Olives :p

i kno, 3 in a rowe! XD cuh-ray-zay! XD