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jpdrag0n 01-29-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DivineBled (Post 379749)
nope. lol I pronounced it correctly. It also depends on the dialect

depends on the dialect? ive never heard "kawaii" pronounced any other way than just the regular way that MMM pointed out. in okayama and tokyo it was pronounced the same...and these places are very different in terms of dialect...and im japanese so i think i would know.

Harold 01-29-2008 09:53 PM

Make sure you guys don't say "kowaii" which sounds like "kowai." It means scary.

anrakushi 01-30-2008 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 379769)
It is pronounced the same in any dialect...

(With an American accent):

Ka (as in the first syllable of "cotton")

wa (as in the first syllable of "Washington")

ii (as in the first syllable of "east" but extended to twice as long.)

KAWAII has four syllables in Japanese: Ka-Wa-I-I. Each should be spoken for the same length of time.

I have to say, the american accent must be profoundly different in pronunciation of the word cotton to an australian accent. the way you have sounded it out using english words sounds much more like 怖い rather than 可愛い. I know you would pronounce it correctly MMM but we pronounce cotton in australian accent like コットン so very different sound. thought that was interesting.

MMM 01-30-2008 03:33 AM

1) I doesn't rhyme with "Hawaii"

2) I understand that "cotton" is pronounced different ways in different parts of the world. That's why I said "American accent". There are many dialects even in American, but the basic, newscaster dialect pronunciation is correct.

Proving that explaining pronunciation over the internet is very difficult.

SSJup81 01-30-2008 03:38 AM

Still odd that you chose cotton, MMM. For someone unfamiliar with Japanese pronunciations, I'd still use "Hawaii" as an example, and point out that you have to extend the "ii" part of it. Seems that'd be a closer similarity than the "co" in cotton for "ka".

MMM 01-30-2008 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SSJup81 (Post 381224)
Still odd that you chose cotton, MMM. For someone unfamiliar with Japanese pronunciations, I'd still use "Hawaii" as an example, and point out that you have to extend the "ii" part of it. Seems that'd be a closer similarity than the "co" in cotton for "ka".

The problem with that is that the emphasis in Hawaii is on the "wa" and it is a 3 syllable word in English.

Depending on who you are talking to, there is no stress in the 4-syllable Kawaii or it's on the last two syllables "ii". If you take "Hawaii" and replace the H with a K you will more than likely sound like you are saying "kowai" which, as mentioned before, means quite the opposite of "kawaii".

Amnell 01-30-2008 04:03 AM

Hawai'i actually has a stop between the two i's, so you're all technically wrong :mtongue: . Well, MMM had the best explantion :P .

/ka wa i i/ (IPA, spaces between syllables)

I'll try to approximate the sounds with the standard alphabet, but remember that I speak western American English.

kah-wah-ee-ee

For OP, just remember that vowels are kept pretty short (kinda clipped, really), so don't spend a lot of time on the 'ah' part of those sounds. Also, there should be no real emphasis on any one syllable--that'll come in by itself.

kuronekoaus 01-30-2008 09:39 AM

Lol maybe the user who created this thread should speak to a Japanese teacher/ student in person. You can't really imitate sounds you can't hear...

DannysGhostGirl 01-30-2008 06:58 PM

Yeah, you've got a point. Only problem is, I don't know any Japanese people/teachers.........

SSJup81 01-30-2008 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 381230)
The problem with that is that the emphasis in Hawaii is on the "wa" and it is a 3 syllable word in English.

Depending on who you are talking to, there is no stress in the 4-syllable Kawaii or it's on the last two syllables "ii". If you take "Hawaii" and replace the H with a K you will more than likely sound like you are saying "kowai" which, as mentioned before, means quite the opposite of "kawaii".

I was actually just referring to "ha" and "ka", for the most part.


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