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enyafriend 03-03-2008 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by anrakushi (Post 417039)
it could be an American thing. The problem it causes is for example i did one year of studying Japanese in university in Australia before going to Japan and of actual class time i had just 72hrs in that year. i had learnt so little before going to Japan. that is why hours are used as people should generally be capable of similar amounts after so many hours but years is very vague because the number of class hours, home study etc can vary greatly.

just as an example, taken from wikipedia
Test content and requirements summary for JLPT
Level Kanji Vocabulary Listening Hours of Study
4 ~100 (103) ~800 (728) Basic ~150
3 ~300 (284) ~1,500 (1409) Intermediate ~300
2 ~1000 (1023) ~6,000 (5035) High Level ~600
1 ~2000 (1926) ~10,000 (8009) SFLIJ* ~900
*Sufficient For Life In Japan
Numbers in brackets indicate the exact number in the current Test Content Specification (Revised Edition, 2004).

anyway this is just a rough poll so it is not important ^^ just found it interesting.

The table of hours (the one that was given by anrakushi) is the standard measure that is applied to anyone in gauging their JLPT level.

Normally, for those that are just taking the language for the fun of it and not intending to progress from level to level via the JLPT, then they normally talks about YEARS instead of HOURS.

MMM 03-03-2008 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by enyafriend (Post 417142)
The table of hours (the one that was given by anrakushi) is the standard measure that is applied to anyone in gauging their JLPT level.

Normally, for those that are just taking the language for the fun of it and not intending to progress from level to level via the JLPT, then they normally talks about YEARS instead of HOURS.

That makes sense...thanks for clearing that up, enyafriend.

DragonShade 03-03-2008 03:28 AM

I am a beginner, hahaha
アニメもゲームも大好きだから、日本語を勉強のこと決 めた

anrakushi 03-03-2008 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enyafriend (Post 417142)
The table of hours (the one that was given by anrakushi) is the standard measure that is applied to anyone in gauging their JLPT level.

Normally, for those that are just taking the language for the fun of it and not intending to progress from level to level via the JLPT, then they normally talks about YEARS instead of HOURS.

makes sense and i agree with this except that i guess some language programs also care about the hours as the university i studied at in Japan in my second semester set a minimum of 300hrs of study rather than years. i think these hrs of study are also more referring to classroom study and not private study.

Ramones1976 03-03-2008 03:38 AM

Not much, I only know a few words and phrases.
I'd like to eventually speak Japanese fluently

Powermad147 03-03-2008 03:49 AM

I've watched so many love stories that I can hold up a bitter fight or a sad, poetic confession of love for about 30 seconds, but other than those two nearly useless thing, I can't say much in japanese XD

emiluvsjmusic 03-03-2008 09:48 AM

lol i agree with tenchu
ive basically studied japanese my whole life but im not fluent and not really near it either >_<

Rogozhin 03-03-2008 10:57 AM

In Australia, I attended a Japanese school for 3 hours every Saturday for five years (about 600 hrs all up) and I was always half/barely understanding stuff (because of my age, I had to skip a few grades and could never, fully catch up with the class). It was structured like an actual school in Japan and we used textbooks from the current syllabus.

I can hold a decent conversation in Japanese and convince natives into thinking I am Japanese (I lack an accent). However, when it comes to writing kanji and understanding semantics, I do struggle a bit...my vocabulary is quite pitiful too so I sometimes get tongue-tied.

I think I'd put myself at an intermediate-high level, probably more inclined to intermediate though.

Hisuwashi 03-03-2008 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutetwirler (Post 417062)
Learn Japanese keeps Japanese fresh for everyone, all the time :vsign:

That looks very useful, I shall investigate. Thank you.

Kasomi 03-03-2008 02:08 PM

I'm currently in my third year studying Japanese, but so far it slipped a bit since I study languages in school (Spanish and English and a little bit of German) so I pushed aside Japanese a little. But I intend to take back my study hours book and get back to business, as I really want to become a translator of several languages (weird to say, but actually Japanese is my third language, rather than Spanish ^^')

And thus maybe take a JLPT test soon... who knows?


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