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Larvaefamme 05-20-2008 11:07 AM

Are there realy nice dorama or anime for young girls to study Japanese?
 
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Tsuyako 05-20-2008 04:08 PM

A few months ago, I had a friend who said she'd teach me Japanese...I asked her where she'd learned it and she said she'd taught herself through anime...a while later when I started proper lessons, I discovered half the stuff she'd taught me was wrong >.<

Nagoyankee 05-24-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsuyako (Post 493569)
A few months ago, I had a friend who said she'd teach me Japanese...I asked her where she'd learned it and she said she'd taught herself through anime...a while later when I started proper lessons, I discovered half the stuff she'd taught me was wrong >.<


You should have never trusted someone who 'learned' another language by ear alone. As a native speaker of Japanese, I can guarantee you this with confidence:

We don't speak the way most anime characters do, especially the main characters! But, alas, those are who too many Japanese-learners on JF try to sound like!!

MissMisa 05-24-2008 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nagoyankee (Post 497009)
You should have never trusted someone who 'learned' another language by ear alone. As a native speaker of Japanese, I can guarantee you this with confidence:

We don't speak the way most anime characters do, especially the main characters! But, alas, those are who too many Japanese-learners on JF try to sound like!!

So that's why there is so many random, 'KAWAIIIIII DESSSSUUUUU' in a lot of places on here xD

I've never bothered to learn Japanese through anime. I downloaded audio lessons, which were pretty good. I only know very basic things to say. Because they were audio lessons, however, I couldn't write all of it in romaji. There is probably no way I'll be able to teach myself Japanese on top of everything else, I'll probably have to get formal lessons if I want to get anywhere really.

KitsuneFr 05-24-2008 11:14 PM

Well, in even the case you are working on books, you should know that can be mistakes and divergences between methods, so you have to analyse. For example, in my main method, cherry was:

さくらんぽ (sakuranpo, speak sakurampo)

but in fact it seems that it is:

さくらんぼ (sakurambo, speak sakurambo)

French internet sites aren't clear, it is maybe some frenchies are disliking Rambo ? :confused:

In another hand, if you want to make your voice (I don't say vocabulary or grammar, only good voice tone!), just watch movies with Toshirô Mifune or Tatsuya Nakadai, you would have a bit actor or theatral, but good pronunciation I believe - it is me as french I would advice to french learner to listen Jean Gabin, even if here the pronounciation has changed since the 30s/40s/50s, opposite to Japan as it seems to me.

Retrogamer77 05-24-2008 11:28 PM

I think JDramas/Gameshows might be a little more helpful than most Anime. However, yes you should have basis in the language first. I took Japanese senior year and had to try and continue on my own this year because my College doesn't have it. I still talk to my Sensei, however, and she corrects my mistakes. It's soooo important to have a native speaker helping you through the process, especially if you have trouble learning languages. I don't see being able to have a basic conversation about magical flying samurai and 'What did you have for dinner last night?' as having learned the language. It's a start. I just think people are mistaken when they think being able to recite lines from an anime makes them proficient in Japanese. :rolleyes:

Agan, media helps a lot with learning a language, especially live media. I listen to Japanese radio jockey's sometimes. Obviously because my Japanese is still very basic I can't understand 97% of what he's saying. But I'm really picky about pronunciation in any language so I feel it helps. Also, there's nothing wrong with just hearing it just to get used to it. My German teacher based many of our classes on watching podcasts, weather reports, tv shows, etc. in German. Again, we were all in advanced level, but it helped a lot to hear how the language is spoken in everyday life.

I guess my point here is that you can't actually learn Japanese ONLY from anime, but it could help you out along the way if you've already been getting formal lessons.

ChibiShojoJournie 05-25-2008 06:30 AM

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MMM 05-25-2008 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ChibiShojoJournie (Post 497098)
I have to agree with the people on the first page that said that you CAN learn Japanese from Anime!! Besides, by watching Anime, you get an insight of the Japanese culture as well as the language which makes you want to learn them more. Even when the Anime is being dubbed, that is the only thing that changes.... are the voices where in the dubbed version you can hear the Anime in your language, which is english.

Anime makes you facinated to want to learn more about the language and culture. Also, if you are already studying Japanese, then you will be able to understand the Anime in original Japanese language better. It all comes together!![/color]

1) If you want me to ever read your posts again, make your settings so your font isn't almost invisible.

2) Yes, anime gives insight into Japanese culture, but anime isn't created for lesson plans, it is created for it's Japnese audience. It's like saying "The Simpsons is a good source to learn English and American culture". Yes, it is a CERTAIN view of American life, but the first words you learn in English probably shouldn't be "Cowabunga" and "No way, dude." Totally accurate words that are dangerous (or uncomprehensible) if misused.

My point is that Japanese shouldn't learn English from Bart Simpson unless they want their ass kicked every day. And Westerners shouldn't learn their Japanese from Naruto, Yugi-oh, Crayon Shin-chan, or anything like that. As a SUPPLEMENT it is fine, as a source? No.

ChibiShojoJournie 05-25-2008 07:25 AM

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DragonShade 05-25-2008 09:33 AM

Use anime as a source of listening practice. ^^


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