に and で prepositions

[Wasabista]

Originally Posted by MMM

I hear Japanese people call it a Spoon more often than a Saji...

Not me, maybe it's a Saitama thing. I've come to think of a teaspoon as a supuun and a ramen spoon as a saji.

[SSJup81]

Originally Posted by Wasabista

Both sentences are wrong, as you've figured out.

In principle "de" means "with/using" and "ni" is a general locative or dative particle.

Saji de shiru o tabeta. I drank my soup with a spoon.
Hon no naka ni wa mushi ga ita. A bug was inside the book.


But Japanese uses "de" when describing an action, in places where we would say "in," not "with":

Watashi wa Ikebukuro de hataraite imasu. I work in Ikebukuro.
O-sento de kaminoke o aratta. I washed my hair in the public bath.

So, what would you use to say...

I wash my hair with shampoo (I'll say strawberry scented)? What is the equivalent particle for "with"? Would you still use "de" in this instance? Sutoroberii Shampuu de kami o araimasu. <= Is this even correct for what I was trying to xay?

Edit: I know "ichigo" is strawberry, but decided to stick to katakana since I used katakana for shampoo since I don't know the word for Shampoo.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Wasabista

Not me, maybe it's a Saitama thing. I've come to think of a teaspoon as a supuun and a ramen spoon as a saji.

Or maybe it's a Kansai thing and they don't say saji...or maybe my ears didn't pick it up.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by SSJup81

So, what would you use to say...

I wash my hair with shampoo (I'll say strawberry scented)? What is the equivalent particle for "with"? Would you still use "de" in this instance? Sutoroberii Shampuu de kami o araimasu. <= Is this even correct for what I was trying to xay?

Edit: I know "ichigo" is strawberry, but decided to stick to katakana since I used katakana for shampoo since I don't know the word for Shampoo.

I would probably say

ストロベリーのシャンプーで髪の毛を洗います。

OR

ストロベリーのシャンプーを使って、頭を洗います。

[chryuop]

MMM you left me here wondering now hee hee. What was that word in the anime that was translated as "correct"? After 20 minutes listening to it and trying to translate it, would be mean not to tell me LOL.

[Debezo]

Originally Posted by Wasabista

Not me, maybe it's a Saitama thing. I've come to think of a teaspoon as a supuun and a ramen spoon as a saji.

I(in Kantou) call spoon 'Renge' with ramen or Chinese food. well I use saji with Japanese food or cooking terms.

[SSJup81]

Originally Posted by MMM

I would probably say

ストロベリーのシャンプーで髪の毛を洗います。

OR

ストロベリーのシャンプーを使って、頭を洗います。

Thanks, even though from both examples you gave, I know for a fact, I'd have gone with the first one. lol

That aside, at least now I understand how to use "de" in this instance.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by chryuop

MMM you left me here wondering now hee hee. What was that word in the anime that was translated as "correct"? After 20 minutes listening to it and trying to translate it, would be mean not to tell me LOL.

I can't look at it right now, but it wasn't a term I had heard before, if I remember correctly.

[tsuruya]

i remember my senpai told me this:
" the 'ni' particle is a Landing Point"
what i mean by landing point is shown by the example below:
- Watashi wa sensei ni kikimashita
(I asked sensei)
so,the landing point is the teacher

- Tokyo ni iku tsumori desu
((I) plan to go to tokyo)
so,the landing point is tokyo....

do you get it...?
well,i cannot express well in english so i used simple words...