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SSJup81 09-17-2008 11:24 PM

The best way to learn...
 
Hi all. What exactly is the best way to learn Kanji? I'm definitely very bad at it. I can recognize some characters without thinking twice about it, but still not much worth talking about. Some Kanji that come to mind that I can recognize, aside from the numbers, are:

Ame (the one that means rain)
Nihon
Nan
Sai
Nihongo
Go (meaning language)
Hon
Koori
Iku
Hikari
Hito/Jin
Naka
Kawa
Yama
Ooki
Genki
Ko/Kodomo
Gakusei
Gakkou
Gatsu/Getsu/Tsuki
Hi (meaning day)
Shiro
Watashi
De (出)
Ima
Kyou

That's all that's coming to mind right off. That list is definitely pathetic, right? So, what methods did you all use when learning Kanji?

Tain 09-18-2008 12:13 AM

study study study! i keep on forgetting them too, but i'm to lazy to repeat.

i just started on a new method called remembering the kanji, it's kind of a weird method and i wonder if it will pay off. it makes you remember the meaning of the kanji, not the pronunciation. however, what i noticed is that i remember alot of complex kanji easily, and the meaning will follow automatically.

kaelazors 09-18-2008 06:06 AM

the best way i can remember is just by practicing writing a lot and using it as much as i can whenever possible. usually when i studied for kanji tests, my short term memory would kick in and i could memorize everything i needed to for the exam, but a few days later i'd totally forget it all =/

SSJup81 09-18-2008 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kaelazors (Post 587963)
the best way i can remember is just buy practicing writing a lot and using it as much as i can whenever possible. usually when i studied for kanji tests, my short term memory would kick in and i could memorize everything i needed to for the exam, but a few days later i'd totally forget it all =/

I think this is my problem. There are some other Kanji characters I might see in my text while reading. My book is starting to use Kanji in the examples. While reading it (yay for furigana), I might remember it for the rest of my lesson, but it seems to be limited to just that. It's like I know what the words might mean if I hear it, but not when I see it.

I guess I'll just stick to trying to writing them out. I really do want to take the level 3 JLPT and would hate to do rotten because of Kanji reasons.

Scoob94P 09-18-2008 06:38 PM

you think that list is pathetic I only know three!!

日本語



as you can see, not very many.

Kai13 09-18-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoob94P (Post 588253)

What does this mean, btw?


I dunno why, learn Kanji fast, I write it several times (like 5 lines in a row) and can remember it later, I haven't, however, started hitting hard on it.

kyo_9 09-18-2008 07:47 PM

people tend to start gradually at first but progress later on.. you just have to wait patiently with writing the same kanji on and on.. but believe me, in times you will not aware how fast you can write and remember it.. studying is hard but don`t take it as a pressure,take it as a pleasure.. :D

Scoob94P 09-18-2008 07:54 PM

kai13,
出 is 'de' i.e. 'deru' - to go. You will have
出rimasu
出rimashita
出rimasen
etc etc

Harold 09-18-2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SSJup81 (Post 587857)
Hi all. What exactly is the best way to learn Kanji? I'm definitely very bad at it. I can recognize some characters without thinking twice about it, but still not much worth talking about. Some Kanji that come to mind that I can recognize, aside from the numbers, are:

Ame (the one that means rain)
Nihon
Nan
Sai
Nihongo
Go (meaning language)
Hon
Koori
Iku
Hikari
Hito/Jin
Naka
Kawa
Yama
Ooki
Genki
Ko/Kodomo
Gakusei
Gakkou
Gatsu/Getsu/Tsuki
Hi (meaning day)
Shiro
Watashi
De (出)
Ima
Kyou

That's all that's coming to mind right off. That list is definitely pathetic, right? So, what methods did you all use when learning Kanji?

sai? which sai?

SSJup81 09-18-2008 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Harold (Post 588293)
sai? which sai?

The one you use with age.

私は二十六才です。
Watashi wa nijuuroku sai desu.
I am 26 years old.

Luciferos 09-18-2008 08:47 PM

I write them down and repeat them on paper.
It eventually stays in my head after repeating them like ten times.

Kai13 09-19-2008 07:07 PM

I will now *finally* start to learn Kanji, however, I don't know how I'm going to know all the meanings, I mean, the kanji for book, hon, can be used in Nihon, I know that, but if I didn't I wouldn't know hot to read nihon.

I will learn one at the time, but I'm afraid that i don't know how to use it with other kanji and kanas. :s

Harold 09-19-2008 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kai13 (Post 588981)
I will now *finally* start to learn Kanji, however, I don't know how I'm going to know all the meanings, I mean, the kanji for book, hon, can be used in Nihon, I know that, but if I didn't I wouldn't know hot to read nihon.

I will learn one at the time, but I'm afraid that i don't know how to use it with other kanji and kanas. :s

Yea but the 本 in 日本 does not mean book... 本 means base, foundation in 日本

Kai13 09-20-2008 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Harold (Post 589001)
Yea but the 本 in 日本 does not mean book... 本 means base, foundation in 日本

I know it doesn't mean book -.-''
But that was exactly what I was talking about, I'm afraid I don't know how to use the kanji in all the ways it is used.

Like, in a sentence, I see a 2 kanji I recognize, but together I don't know what they mean, thast's what I'm afraid of.

emiluvsjmusic 09-20-2008 08:48 AM

Just write it out over and over :)
and also practice speaking it out loud coz it will help you remember how it is read

Befron 09-22-2008 07:55 PM

What's the difference between 出る and 行く? I mean of course I know one is deru and one iku, but they are both "to go" right? What's the difference?

MMM 09-22-2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Harold (Post 589001)
Yea but the 本 in 日本 does not mean book... 本 means base, foundation in 日本

It does also mean book.

本屋さん Honyasan

Bookstore.

MMM 09-22-2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Befron (Post 591356)
What's the difference between 出る and 行く? I mean of course I know one is deru and one iku, but they are both "to go" right? What's the difference?

Depending on the situation, 出る can mean to attend or to exit. It doesn't really mean "to go".

CarleyGee 09-23-2008 12:56 AM

I would say patience would be the best way to learn.
Take your time and focus!!
Make sure you understand the kanji and all the strokes.
Sometimes the only difference is the tiniest mark.

typechin 09-23-2008 02:55 AM

hey guys...
 
guys?? is it difficult to write japanese char.????

SSJup81 09-23-2008 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by typechin (Post 591759)
guys?? is it difficult to write japanese char.????

If you have a guide, I don't feel that it is.

I have a program on my computer that can show the direction and order of writing the strokes for Kanji characters. Just follow the directions and you should be okay, but of course, with practice, you'll get better at it. It's like when first learning how to write in your language. I'm sure the handwriting was a bit sloppy, but over time, you learned to write out your characters better and it became more legible. Japanese should be no different.

Harold 09-25-2008 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 591367)
It does also mean book.

本屋さん Honyasan

Bookstore.

I was letting the OP know that 本 is not always going to mean book. Sorry for not mentioning that.

MMM 09-25-2008 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Harold (Post 593555)
I was letting the OP know that 本 is not always going to mean book. Sorry for not mentioning that.

OK I gotcha.

Yes, that kanji can mean book, root or source, is used as a counter for cylindrical objects and is also a counter for video-tapes (some of you might remember those).

Snail 10-29-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SSJup81 (Post 588306)
The one you use with age.

私は二十六才です。
Watashi wa nijuuroku sai desu.
I am 26 years old.

I am also from Virginia, what district or town? I'm from chesterfield which is near richmond. :p
Snail

SSJup81 10-29-2008 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snail (Post 617699)
I am also from Virginia, what district or town? I'm from chesterfield which is near richmond. :p
Snail

Howdy. Wow, you are very close to me. I live in Henrico County.

Snail 10-30-2008 01:57 AM

Heheh, I hear there is tons of violence there. I also heard the schools are super strict and so are the courts. T_T
Snail

SSJup81 10-30-2008 06:50 AM

I decided to PM that post since it was getting so OT.

BTW, Snail are you taking the JLPT or anything?


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