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KyoKitty92 11-12-2008 04:09 PM

Quick Japanese Phrases
 
Ok so everyone is wanting to learn Japanese- and I see threads for that but no threads for just simple phrases for everyday conversation- unless I missed it lol so lets post some phrases on here to help get people started with the language ^_^

goes like this- lets kinda sound out the words so the prononciation will be right. like...because- (bee-cuz)

so lets start with these phrases:

please

thank you

yes

no

do you speak japanese?

do you speak english?

things like that....

SHAD0W 11-12-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KyoKitty92 (Post 626230)
Ok so everyone is wanting to learn Japanese- and I see threads for that but no threads for just simple phrases for everyday conversation- unless I missed it lol so lets post some phrases on here to help get people started with the language ^_^.


Theres loads of these threads?!

simple answer to all your questions is go buy a book or go to a class! your local college/university will more than likely run a japanese language class for anyone over the age of 16.

Books: Japanese for dummies, Japanese for busy people, Japanese from zero.
Classes: Google

No thread or forum will get you fluent or even anywhere near basic level japanese.. go to a class or get a book and study study study! I do atleast 30mins a day from my books and my audio lessons i got. I've been doing it for a year now and I know so much already its unbelievable. I can hold full japanese conversations with my class teacher (missmisa will back me on this before anyone starts) for example.

Theres no such thing as "oh i joined a forum now i can say "arigato" so im studying japanese"

Also, if you do join a class, study in between lessons! Theres people who go to my course who just turn up (usually late) and expect to learn but now 3 months in they stare blankly at sensei everytime she talks to them.. Its so obvious that they dont give 2mins thought about japanese language apart from during session.

/rant

Im only saying what everyone else who bought a book and can hold their own is thinking.

KyoKitty92 11-12-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 626239)
Theres loads of these threads?!

simple answer to all your questions is go buy a book or go to a class! your local college/university will more than likely run a japanese language class for anyone over the age of 16.

Books: Japanese for dummies, Japanese for busy people, Japanese from zero.
Classes: Google

No thread or forum will get you fluent or even anywhere near basic level japanese.. go to a class or get a book and study study study! I do atleast 30mins a day from my books and my audio lessons i got. I've been doing it for a year now and I know so much already its unbelievable. I can hold full japanese conversations with my class teacher (missmisa will back me on this before anyone starts) for example.

Theres no such thing as "oh i joined a forum now i can say "arigato" so im studying japanese"

Also, if you do join a class, study in between lessons! Theres people who go to my course who just turn up (usually late) and expect to learn but now 3 months in they stare blankly at sensei everytime she talks to them.. Its so obvious that they dont give 2mins thought about japanese language apart from during session.

/rant

Im only saying what everyone else who bought a book and can hold their own is thinking.


Ok um excuse me?....Never did I say that this thread was to be fluent. I said BASIC PHRASES. did you ever think that maybe people dont have money for that kind of stuff? class and books and be pricy. This isnt that kind of thread- Its just if your intersted in knowing how to say a couple things. And I never said anything bout you- if you wana be concieted and talk about how great you are with the language then whatever- but dont do it here- obviously its not a thread to brag. So get off your high horse and shut up. be a little more considerate. If you dont wana post on what I have here- Then find another thread. No one asked you to post here. Its for those interested.

SHAD0W 11-12-2008 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KyoKitty92 (Post 626243)
Ok um excuse me?....Never did I say that this thread was to be flueBLAH...

Anyone would know i often post in the real language help thread cuz im stuck myself. I was purely trying to demonstate the power of a book and a bit of revision.

In England, those books cost what? a tenner? (often cheaper if you get them second hand on ebay.. i got japanese for busy people for 6quid) thats a couple of weeks pocket money (lol) at most. Birthdays? Christmas? Come on. Also foriegn language classes are free at most colleges here for 16-18 years and the unemployed.

Chances are since theres already a million threads like this one, you only remade one cuz you wanna know for yourself so my first post in this thread still applies.

KyoKitty92 11-12-2008 11:16 PM

I love how you said HERE and IN ENGLAND what about the people who arent from those countries? This is for people to chat about the language- not you-why dont you just stop posting here?

kenmei 11-12-2008 11:28 PM

Google is your friend


Japanese Words & Phrases

JAPANESE PHRASES

Japanese Language Phrases

Basic Japanese Phrases

Simple Japanese Phrases Archives


enjoy

KyoKitty92 11-13-2008 02:55 PM

*sighs* I know I can look it up on Google....the point was to discuss it here so people can share their knowledge of the language.....It is JapanForum

Keaton421 11-13-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KyoKitty92 (Post 626945)
*sighs* I know I can look it up on Google....the point was to discuss it here so people can share their knowledge of the language.....It is JapanForum

Yes, no, and hello in Japanese don't really merit a discussion, do they? Even the average farmer in America knows konnichiwa.

KyoKitty92 11-13-2008 04:14 PM

*sighs again* why is everyone being so difficult? It sonly for discussion- If ya dont agree with wut this thread is about then please dont post here- its rather annoying. Its just that simple- dont post here

SHAD0W 11-13-2008 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KyoKitty92 (Post 626982)
*sighs again* why is everyone being so difficult? It sonly for discussion- If ya dont agree with wut this thread is about then please dont post here- its rather annoying. Its just that simple- dont post here

I'd hate to quote myself but I'm only saying what everyone else is thinking. The other two posters previous to mine back this up. Just buy a book for gods sake.

KyoKitty92 11-13-2008 04:55 PM

I thought I made myself clear already....if your not interested...DONT....POST...HERE...ITS THAT SIMPLE PEOPLE- stop being so inconsiderate

sushidushi 11-14-2008 12:56 AM

In response to the original (very reasonable, I thought) question, try the following link. I'm not clever enough to make it in to a clicky with a snappy title, but here it is...

Genki Japan

SHAD0W 11-14-2008 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sushidushi (Post 627322)
In response to the original (very reasonable, I thought) question, try the following link. I'm not clever enough to make it in to a clicky with a snappy title, but here it is...

Genki Japan

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Originally Posted by KyoKitty92 (Post 626945)
*sighs* I know I can look it up on Google....the point was to discuss it here so people can share their knowledge of the language.....It is JapanForum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keaton421 (Post 626953)
Yes, no, and hello in Japanese don't really merit a discussion, do they? Even the average farmer in America knows konnichiwa.

Says it all.

I don't think im being unreasonable. What KyoKitty92 is trying to do is like asking someone to show her how to make bread but she doesn't have an oven and isnt prepared to provide/pay for the ingredients. It just aint gonna happen. I don't see how "quick" phrases as described can be useful in everyday life unless you go to bed one night and suddenly wake up in Oita (thats a place in Japan, KyoKitty92) but then you wouldnt understand what was being said to you in the first place so how would you reply? I cannot imagine saying こんにちは as my answer to anything and everything and I struggle to see how a thread can support a conversation over a one word way of thanking somebody..

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Originally Posted by KyoKitty92 (Post 626945)
*sighs* I know I can look it up on Google....the point was to discuss it here so people can share their knowledge of the language.....It is JapanForum

Sorry to re-quote but its obvious you don't want to google it cuz that implies effort. You can't expect to learn even the very basics of any foreign language by having someone give it to you on a plate. Chances are if you read it only once it wont commit to long term memory and it will be gone.

I only commented on England cuz thats where I live and it would be foolish of me to talk about availablity of books/classes in other countries that i have no idea about. I've only been a member of this forum for a few months and I've noticed a million and one threads like this one. If you want to learn anything (on a begginer level) then a forum isnt the way to do it. Learn kana then start with speaking/lsitening till you can hold your own then you can ask for help cuz some other poor sucker has already made a site that shows you that yes is hai and no is iie.

Go eat some pocky.

KyoKitty92 11-14-2008 03:25 PM

Why is everyone acting like im trying to know a few phrases and say im fluent? for gods sakes people I watch enough anime to know the basic phrases- it was just a conversation starter. Why is everyone being so rude about it?aybe people just wana know a sentence or two. It doesnt have to be useful in everyday conversations with another japnese person- this is only a thread. I dont undertsnad why your thinking 'im lazy' what the hell does that have to do with anything? I have books on the language already. This is just for people to discuss the language. Why is that such a bad thing??

Koir 11-14-2008 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KyoKitty92 (Post 627002)
I thought I made myself clear already....if your not interested...DONT....POST...HERE...ITS THAT SIMPLE PEOPLE- stop being so inconsiderate

This is the internet. Being a tactless, self-superior elitist is an art form. Fortunately, there are always those who do not conform to form.

*looks up a couple posts at Shadow's response* Case in point of tactlessness. Shadow, you've already made the point that you do not think much of KyoKitty's way of asking. Multiquoting and continuing to demonstrate your disdain isn't really necessary.

KyoKitty92 11-14-2008 03:28 PM

and btw dont twist my words- you can obviously see that me saying I know I can look it up on google was not in response to sushidushis link. Dont misquote me and make me sound like the bad person here. If your going to quote something I said dont screw it up and give people the wrong idea.

KyoKitty92 11-14-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Koir (Post 627615)
This is the internet. Being a tactless, self-superior elitist is an art form. Fortunately, there are always those who do not conform to form.

*looks up a couple posts at Shadow's response* Case in point of tactlessness. Shadow, you've already made the point that you do not think much of KyoKitty's way of asking. Multiquoting and continuing to demonstrate your disdain isn't really necessary.

Finally someone nice :pompoms: hooray! you deserve a hug! *virtual hug*

yuujirou 11-14-2008 03:55 PM

I'm sorry
but I would personally look down on any contribution to any more fangirl/otaku jabber of random and incoherent "Japanese Phrases"
>.>''

SHAD0W 11-14-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KyoKitty92 (Post 627611)
Why is that such a bad thing??

Because your starting a single tread on language discussion when the whole forum is on this? Im not trying to be rude I just dont see the point of helping people join the "lolololkawaijapanpocky club" whos claim to fame is that they can say hello in japanese. Ive seen people say things like:

"yeah i can speak japanese"
Really? Thats cool, go on then.
"konichee war. batara DAVID desai."
Oh.. and what does that mean?
"oh nothin. just introducing myself"

at this point his band of friends are all simultaneously going "yay yay kawaii!" in the background..

you can see where this is going.. its threads like this that bulk up its members.

MMM 11-14-2008 08:57 PM

I understand what you were trying to do kyokitty, but the problem is, you are trying to create a discussion on a topic that isn't really discussable. It would be like creating a topic on multiplication tables. 2x2=4. There's not much to discuss.

If you have questions, please post in the Japanese Questions and Translations sticky.

CaptainThunder 11-15-2008 07:51 PM

Well, it looks like everyone has thoroughly instilled in KyoKitty92 the value of Googling before asking a question on the interwebs, so I may as well answer her original question. The phrases in order are お願いします、ありがとう、はい、いいえ、日本語を話 すことができますか?、and 英語を話すことができますか?


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