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Trouble 01-04-2009 02:55 AM

Talk'n In Romaji
 
Hey everyone! This is a thread for beginner Japanese learners to talk in either Romaji or Kana. What I mean by that is that you can write in Romaji if you don't know how to write in/read Kana or you can write in Kana if you know how to read/write it. Also if you can please provide an English translation under the Kana for the people who can't read it. So...just talk about anything here from Apa-to's to nattou!

PockyMePink 01-04-2009 02:57 AM

I don't like this idea. It makes peope rely on romaji too much O.O

Japanese isn't hard to get on your computer - it's already there, you just have to set it up =P

Inari 01-04-2009 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PockyMePink (Post 657775)
I don't like this idea. It makes peope rely on romaji too much O.O

Japanese isn't hard to get on your computer - it's already there, you just have to set it up =P

+1
I'm on a psp at the moment though, but japanese is simple to get on here, now to learn to use it. =p

Trouble 01-04-2009 03:05 AM

Yeah but some people are too lazy to install it. :P

Miyavifan 01-04-2009 03:09 AM

I don't like this idea either. I'm trying to learn/memorize kanji, etc., whenever I can. and test myself to see if I recognize any kanji/letters/words.

Trouble 01-04-2009 03:13 AM

Kanji is probably the most hardest thing to learn. Thousands of kanji to remember just to read the paper.

PockyMePink 01-04-2009 03:19 AM

Then make this a kana thread, perhaps? So people learning kana can use and read it?

Trouble 01-04-2009 03:20 AM

Worth a shot. It can't get worse right? :P

Miyavifan 01-04-2009 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PockyMePink (Post 657790)
Then make this a kana thread, perhaps? So people learning kana can use and read it?

That's a good compromise.

Trouble 01-04-2009 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miyavifan (Post 657797)
That's a good compromise.

Done ;)
:D

Trouble 01-04-2009 03:52 AM

Ee... Konbanwa! O genki desu ka?

Britaniya 01-04-2009 03:55 AM

genki desu
kodomotachi wa genki desu ka???
FUAHAHAHAH!

Miyavifan 01-04-2009 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trouble (Post 657799)
Done ;)
:D

cool. :) ....

Inari 01-04-2009 03:59 AM

I still have to learn any form of Japanese! :D
But I enabled the japanese characters on my psp just now. :D

Miyavifan 01-04-2009 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trouble (Post 657823)
Ee... Konbanwa! O genki desu ka?

(it should be Ogenki)

げんきです。 ありがとう。あなたわ?
genki desu. arigato. anata wa?

I'm good. thanks. and you? (I hope that's right)

alexlovesrock 01-04-2009 04:21 AM

nani kore!!!?!?!? anata wa watashi no tomodachi desuka??? anata wa kane mochi desuka??

So Desu!!

Dakara, anata wa watashi no Kanejo!!!

Miyavifan 01-04-2009 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexlovesrock (Post 657844)
nani kore!!!?!?!? anata wa watashi no tomodachi desuka??? anata wa kane mochi desuka??

So Desu!!

Dakara, anata wa watashi no Kanejo!!!

am I your friend?

am I rich?

therefore, I am your (don't know this word)

Is that even close to correct?

LainIwakura 01-04-2009 09:37 AM

I feel dumb. Whats the difference between Romaji and Kana?

XDemianu27X 01-04-2009 05:44 PM

How about you try to type/read english sentences in katakana? That's how I learned to read hiragana/katakana :vsign:

Like this...
ヘロ! マイ ナメ イス ダミアン。

MissHoneyBeeee 01-04-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LainIwakura (Post 658042)
I feel dumb. Whats the difference between Romaji and Kana?

kana is Hiragana and Katakana characters, and Romaji is just roman letters (abc's) used instead of the characters :P it's pretty much spelling out the way you would say it instead of using characters

JoBo 01-04-2009 05:58 PM

How do you install the characters?? I'm willing to do it :) i just don't know how to :D

Lucas89 01-04-2009 06:04 PM

There is a thread on this forum here:
http://www.japanforum.com/forum/japa...ge-help/21099-[guide]-read-write-japanese-your-windows-xp-pc.html
on how to do it on windows XP, i don't know about vista though

Edit: Ok so the link doesn't work properly on these forums because of the square brackets in the URL, so just go to the Japanese language help part of the forum and its a sticky thread in there.

Just remember you'll need a windows XP disc, unless anybody knows how to install it without one.

Trouble 01-05-2009 04:31 AM

Tadaima!
Ee...koko wa boku no uchi janai...
Tonikaku, konbanwa!

Koir 01-05-2009 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trouble (Post 658510)
Tadaima!
Ee...koko wa boku no uchi janai...
Tonikaku, konbanwa!

(Note: Not a translation)

Is it a good sign that I can read that and *almost* understand it, based entirely on watching far too many subtitled anime? Eep..

(Attempt at translation)

I'm back!
Um...here I am but no one's here...
Anyway, good evening!

*winces for the responses*

LainIwakura 01-05-2009 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissHoneyBeeee (Post 658166)
kana is Hiragana and Katakana characters, and Romaji is just roman letters (abc's) used instead of the characters :P it's pretty much spelling out the way you would say it instead of using characters

ok so there is kanji, hiragana and katakana? 3 symbol alphabets?

XDemianu27X 01-05-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LainIwakura (Post 658529)
ok so there is kanji, hiragana and katakana? 3 symbol alphabets?

In a nutshell.... (hopefully your computer can see asian fonts)

Kana letters (of both hiragana and katakana) represent only one syllable.
ex. ま   ち ,  マ   チ   ("ma" and "chi" in hiragana and katakana)

Hiragana is used to spell out japanese words or for connecting particles between kanji.

Katakana is used for names or foreign words that aren't from the japanese language.

Kanji is a pictograph type font, where normally each individual kanji symbol represents a single word or thing.

Romanji is easily explained as the english alphabet font. What you're reading now are romanji characters.

I'll use an example to help ya. (if you can see them on your computer)

kanji ---- hiragana ----- katakana --- romanji
本         ほん         ホン      hon

Hatredcopter 01-05-2009 05:36 PM

Let me just say two things...

One: romaji is a counter-intuitive and just overall bad way to learn Japanese. I can give many reasons why romaji sucks, but I'll save us all time and just say LEARN KANA/KANJI! If you're diligent, you can learn kana in as little as two weeks. Given that, there's no reason to complain about not being able to use romaji. Even if you don't know any kanji, you can write to other Japanese beginners using just kana.

Two: STOP USING "ANATA"! Anata is used rarely by Japanese people in regular speech. It sounds out of place in 95% of the sentences made by Japanese beginners.

SHAD0W 01-05-2009 05:40 PM

Seconded. 100%

PockyMePink 01-05-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 658737)
This is the worst thread I've ever seen. FAIL.

If you wanna speak japanese F*CKING LEARN KANA!!!! stop being so god damn lazy.

Infact, stay as you are. Using romaji divides JF into 2 halves, those who care about the language, and casual, lazy, ignorant kawaiipockysugoi noobs.

Go eat pocky.

1. Actually, I thought it was agreed within the first few posts that this was to be a Kana thread. Maybe the title should be changed?

2. Romaji is probably also used by those who learn to speak before they write, so don't ignorantly judge someone just by the fact they don't know kana yet.

I'd say something in kana, but this is a school computer, and it'd rather not mess around with it's settings and attempt to enable it -_-'

MMM 01-05-2009 06:56 PM

I can change the title if that is what is desired.

XDemianu27X 01-05-2009 08:54 PM

Ok well then someone has to start... :mtongue:

あきまして おめでとう ございます!

2008 すき です か? 

すばらし と 思いました よ!

SHAD0W 01-05-2009 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PockyMePink (Post 658781)
Romaji is probably also used by those who learn to speak before they write, so don't ignorantly judge someone just by the fact they don't know kana yet.

I cant see anyone else disagreeing with me apart from those who can't do kana.. typing in kana is very different from reading and writing, plus, it doesnt make you sound clever if you can only write かわいい...

Quote:

Originally Posted by XDemianu27X (Post 658834)
Ok well then someone has to start... :mtongue:

あきまして おめでとう ございます!

2008 すき です か? 

すばらし と 思いました よ!

2008ねんはよいてたのしかったです。 なにをしま したか?

Trouble 01-05-2009 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koir (Post 658512)
(Note: Not a translation)

Is it a good sign that I can read that and *almost* understand it, based entirely on watching far too many subtitled anime? Eep..

(Attempt at translation)

I'm back!
Um...here I am but no one's here...
Anyway, good evening!

*winces for the responses*

You've got the gist of it :P
What I said was:
I'm back!
Hmm...but this isn't my house... (Tadaima is used when entering a house after you've left and are welcome)
Anyways, good evening!

Trouble 01-05-2009 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMM (Post 658790)
I can change the title if that is what is desired.

Please :) Change it to "Talk'n the Talk" or something along those lines.

Trouble 01-05-2009 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 658897)
I cant see anyone else disagreeing with me apart from those who can't do kana.. typing in kana is very different from reading and writing, plus, it doesnt make you sound clever if you can only write かわいい...



2008ねんはよいてたのしかったです。 なにをしま したか?

I know how to write in kana. I'm not an otaku, have never even tasted pocky, and I completely disagree with you.

Ee... 私は今年はいい子になりたい

Lucas89 01-05-2009 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 658897)
2008ねんはよいてたのしかったです。 なにをしま したか?

よいて? <- whats this? i coudn't find it in any dictionary or anything so i'm guessing you mean よくて from いい/よい? Figured i would just ask instead of spending ages looking around dictionaries etc.

ぼくも 2008ねん は たのしかった と おもう 、そして ちょっと おそい んだけど あけまして  おめでとう!

Trouble 01-05-2009 11:18 PM

今はあまり行われている
いいですね.

Lucas89 01-05-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 658977)
Woops! my bad! my head is still fried with my massive 7000 word essay ive been working on for days..

lol np, kinda confused me for a second there though :p

その Tシャツ は とても おもしろい よ!

SHAD0W 01-05-2009 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas89 (Post 658989)
lol np, kinda confused me for a second there though :p

その Tシャツ は とても おもしろい よ!

Thankyou sir, I'm glad someone appreciates my sense of humour :D

Trouble 01-05-2009 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas89 (Post 658989)
lol np, kinda confused me for a second there though :p

その Tシャツ は とても おもしろい よ!

It is indeed an interesting shirt. I fell like giving it to one of my friends... :P


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