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InuAisu 04-30-2009 11:21 PM

Being a noob does not make me unintelligent. I'm sorry if my tone in the past couple of replies has been a bit harsh, I was worried the reputation of my country in Japan was at stake and I guess my worry got the best of my tone. Now knowing it's not, I don't dislike you so much :) Also, your attitude towards language learning bothers me. Cooling down now, I can see now that perhaps your being blessed with more time to learn a language than I perhaps has gotten me a bit jealous. I have been working veerrrrryyyy loosely at learning japanese, and, though my goal was to finish the beginning language book by now, many things have gotten in the way. You can say that it's evidentally my choice having not accomplished my goal, but people(as in me) will like you a lot more if you could be sensitive to other commitments people have that conflict with their desire to learn a language. It's a rare thing in America, perhaps anywhere, for a person to genuinely adore learning a language, as the luxuries of diversity have probably spoiled the majority. So your negative attitude towards a person's desire to learn a language set me off. If I have been too harsh, I apologize.

ChisaChi 04-30-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 707842)
Haha it always takes a while for people to come round to me, but I like it that way. It tells me which people are genuine and who doesnt care. Also, I think it takes a bit of intellegence and a good sense of humour to get me anyways, as my dry, british sense of humour just doesnt travel across the internet :)

So your method of making friends is to be a jerk and hope some people stick around? :confused: How odd. Is this a British thing too, or just a you thing?

PockyMePink 04-30-2009 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by InuAisu (Post 707850)
Being a noob does not make me unintelligent.

No, but being stupid does.
And you fit into both categories, kid :ywave:

duo797 04-30-2009 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chryuop (Post 707826)
I love that US governement (at your saying) puts Spanish and Italian amongst the easiest languages to learn.

"tiene que ir" (has to go). Who has to go? Me or someone else? Coz it can mean both.

First, I'd assume that spanish is up there as easy because the word order itself is pretty similar to english. As for italian, I hear it's similar to spanish in some ways, but haven't had any actual significant interaction with the language so I'll trust your judgement.

As for tiene que ir, I would take it to mean that 'he, she or you' have to go based on the context of el, la or usted. I'm actually a little confused about your point there, was 'tiene que ir' being told to you? If that's the case, I can see why the options are what they are.

I understand your contempt (or what I perceive as contempt, anyways) for slang like 'no problemo' and know that problema is a feminine noun. As far as american culture is concerned, though, most people will jokingly '-o' to the end of English words to make fake spanish. I don't really want to get carried away, so I'm not going to explain my own various observations about why people use this fake spanish.

SHAD0W 04-30-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChisaChi (Post 707851)
So your method of making friends is to be a jerk and hope some people stick around? :confused: How odd. Is this a British thing too, or just a you thing?

Sounds so harsh when you put it that way..

Nope :)

But it works here :p

I'm Ash btw :p

InuAisu 04-30-2009 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PockyMePink (Post 707852)
No, but being stupid does.
And you fit into both categories, kid :ywave:

And how am I stupid? Just wondering.

PockyMePink 04-30-2009 11:29 PM

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PockyMePink 04-30-2009 11:31 PM

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"tiene que ir" (has to go). Who has to go? Me or someone else? Coz it can mean both.
tengo que ir - I have to go
tienes que it - You have to go

Depends on the conjugation, my dear. "Tiene que ir" simply means "It goes"

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And how am I stupid? Just wondering.
Lack of intelligence? That's usually a sign....

duo797 04-30-2009 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PockyMePink (Post 707859)
tengo que ir - I have to go
tienes que it - You have to go

Depends on the conjugation, my dear. "Tiene que ir" simply means "It goes"

Well, el tiene que ir (he has to go) ella tiene que ir (she has to go) usted tiene que ir (you have to go). The only reason I could've seen 'tiene que ir' meaning the 'me' in the context given before was if it was a statement directed towards chryuop and conjugated with usted, which would be tiene.

KyleGoetz 04-30-2009 11:32 PM

PockyMePink: No, "tiene que ir" means "it/he/she has to go." "It goes" is "va." Note the fact that the conjugated form of "tener" is in "tiene que ir." "Tener" means "to have to."

To elucidate a bit more,

Ir (to go)
yo voy
tú vas
el/ella/Ud. va
nosotros vamos
ellos/ellas/Uds. van

Then there's some "vosotros vais" in there (I think), but I was taught Mexican Spanish, so I don't know vos. stuff, so take that with a grain of salt.

On the other hand
Tener que ir (to have to go)
Yo tengo que ir
Tú tienes que ir
el/ella/Ud. tiene que ir
nosotros tenemos que ir
ellos/ellas/Uds. tienen que ir

Of course, the translation of "tener que ir" is "to have to go [somewhere]." "To have to go [as in "to depart"]" would be "tener que irse."


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